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Old 22-12-2021, 11:02 PM #951
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The Rossoneri had confirmed the news in a statement, declaring: "Covid-19 has tested positive for Zlatan Ibrahimović following a second round of swab tests ahead of tonight's game against Bodø/Glimt.”


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Biden said on a recent TV interview, how could anyone predict there would be a new covid variant. What planet is he on?
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I just found out one of my oldest friends dad has died. He contracted Covid 7 weeks ago, was hospitalised but getting better....then got pneumonia and clots on his lungs and the rest of his organs failed. Sad times
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So many families have a sad tale to tell Annie, it's heart breaking.
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Biden said on a recent TV interview, how could anyone predict there would be a new covid variant. What planet is he on?
We think Boris is a bit of a bumbling idiot when it comes to covid but he's got nothing on Biden. Americans think it amazing that we can test ourselves whenever and as much as we like, they have to stand in massive queues if they want to get tested
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AZ says 3 doses of its vaccine works well against Omicrom.

Another round of vaccinations incoming
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AZ says 3 doses of its vaccine works well against Omicrom.

Another round of vaccinations incoming



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Except for our Alf of tibb.
With the amount of alcohol I'll be putting into my body over the next two weeks who needs vaccines?
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Why are 5 Million refusing Vaccines?
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Answer: They probably don't watch the mainstream news.

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Answer:They probably don't watch the mainstream news.

They Do
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Also, lots of religious people in our country who don't believe in vaccines.

If the vaccine peddlers are saying it's only 5 million, then you can probably double that and it's probably more like 10 million.

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probably because the government dont believe in their own advice

and we have had countless examples
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So we have two papers saying hospitalisation risk is 40% lower, one saying 50% lower, and one saying 2/3 (66%) lower. are they getting different data or are the people interpreting it incompetent?
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in south africa the figure is 70%, but that doesn't fit with the lockdown story they all want to pitch
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I have thought for a while that the posturing between the nations is like a political top trumps, who can introduce the most restrictions to 'protect' their nations
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You can blame brixton and its pastors for certain areas where anti vaxers flourish.

A remarkable 5 per cent of residents have the virus. And the high level is partly explained by the 32.4 per cent of locals who remain unvaccinated.

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The government is right not to "rush" into imposing new restrictions in England, the Labour mayor of Greater Manchester has said.

Andy Burnham told BBC Breakfast curbs would damage people's mental health and ministers had to be careful that "whatever is done is proportionate".


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Thursday 23/12/21


147 have Died
119,789 Have Caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
8,216

Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
842

147,720 Total UK Covid-19 Deaths


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

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[Scotland's nightclubs to close
for three weeks from 27 December
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-59768297


[Deputy First Minister John Swinney
said a new law would require nightclubs
to close rather than have them try
to enforce 1m distancing between customers.
He said funding would be made available
to support affected businesses.]
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Mark Drakeford accused of lying over claim omicron is ‘probably’ as severe as delta



Health expert attacks Welsh First Minister for ‘deceiving the public’ to justify
Covid restrictions despite studies refuting his comments

Jamie Jenkins, the former head of health analysis at the Office for National
Statistics (ONS), said that the Welsh First Minister had made an “untrue
statement with the intent to deceive” as he scrambled to justify his
coronavirus restrictions in the face of evidence that the latest Covid variant is
milder.

On Wednesday, Mr Drakeford said he did not think it is “as simple as saying
omicron is less serious than delta”.

“If you have been infected previously, it may be that it is a less severe
attack,” he told a press conference.

“If you have never had coronavirus and you get omicron, the evidence is it is
probably just as severe as any other form would be.”

His comments came despite new studies from the University of Edinburgh,
the UK Health Security Agency (UKHSA) and a group of South African
scientists, which all suggested that omicron produced less severe symptoms
than delta, and was between 50 and 80 per cent less likely to hospitalise
patients.

He said that the Welsh Government appeared not to have firm evidence to
support Mr Drakeford’s assertion that omicron was likely to be as severe as
delta.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...-severe-delta/
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People catching Omicron are 50% to 70% less likely to need hospital care compared with previous variants, a major analysis says.

The UK Health Security Agency says its early findings are "encouraging" but the variant could still lead to large numbers of people in hospital.

It also shows the vaccine's ability to stop you catching Omicron starts to wane 10 weeks after a booster dose.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-59769969
Good news but if that's the case with the booster then there really is no point bringing in restrictions as by the time we lift them a lot of people will have lost a chunk of immunity that the booster gave them
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