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Sticks · 27-10-2009, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

and of course you are correct but there really can be no debate here due to the age and lack of religious knowledge of the posters. It is akin to debating football tactics at the Women's Guild.

Comments like that only inflame and do not add anything to debate. That way you come across as aggressive and arrogant. People see right through to that and you completely undermine anything you may add.

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Sometimes it is good to remind people that an alternative view to their own is around. But yes you are right.

I do remind people there are alternative viewpoints, but I would hpe I did it in a more gentle manner.

LeatherTrumpet, if you want to engage in apologetics, you really need to learn how to do it, not just the facts we need to refute arguments. If you end up casting aspersions on people like you did in this post, you will be seen to have lost the argument.

Again what are you hoping to achieve?

Christmas Dynasnow · 27-10-2009, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Sticks

Comments like that only inflame and do not add anything to debate. That way you come across as aggressive and arrogant. People see right through to that and you completely undermine anything you may add.

I do remind people there are alternative viewpoints, but I would hpe I did it in a more gentle manner.

LeatherTrumpet, if you want to engage in apologetics, you really need to learn how to do it, not just the facts we need to refute arguments. If you end up casting aspersions on people like you did in this post, you will be seen to have lost the argument.

Again what are you hoping to achieve?

and you see this forum as a place for apologetics?

Novo · 27-10-2009, 09:24 AM

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Christmas Dynasnow · 27-10-2009, 12:16 PM

Christianity is a fact. Unless the people who go to my church are figments of my imagination?

ChristmasNeeve · 27-10-2009, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Christianity is a fact. Unless the people who go to my church are figments of my imagination?

You know what she's saying LeatherTrumpet, the people who worship wasn't what she was questioning

Christmas Dynasnow · 27-10-2009, 12:28 PM

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You know what she's saying LeatherTrumpet, the people who worship wasn't what she was questioning

You can never be sure, people often ignore Christianity alive today in people and churches and just think of it as various "facts" gleaned from picking bits from the Bible.

ChristmasNeeve · 27-10-2009, 12:32 PM

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You can never be sure, people often ignore Christianity alive today in people and churches and just think of it as various "facts" gleaned from picking bits from the Bible.

Well, I'm happy for you if you have faith in God and the bible but people have there own minds and are allowed to think and believe different things, it's what makes us all unique and interesting. And I'm sure if you end up being right God will forgive us all when we die!

Christmas Dynasnow · 27-10-2009, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamhxo

Well, I'm happy for you if you have faith in God and the bible but people have there own minds and are allowed to think and believe different things, it's what makes us all unique and interesting. And I'm sure if you end up being right God will forgive us all when we die!

Unfortunately that is not Biblical and will not happen.

Stu · 27-10-2009, 01:14 PM

This thread just keeps on getting better.

Dr.Gonzo · 27-10-2009, 02:16 PM

What a load of ****.

Dr.Gonzo · 27-10-2009, 02:35 PM

There's two things you can't get from a Christian. A good blowjob and a straight answer.

ChristmasNeeve · 27-10-2009, 02:37 PM

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There's two things you can't get from a Christian. A good blowjob and a straight answer.

Tom4784 · 27-10-2009, 02:45 PM

When it comes to creationism and evolution can't we have it both ways? I often take a lot of what happens in the bibles as metaphors rather how it's written. Is it impossible that a divine force could have begun all life as cells and we evolved from that?

Stu · 27-10-2009, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy

When it comes to creationism and evolution can't we have it both ways? I often take a lot of what happens in the bibles as metaphors rather how it's written. Is it impossible that a divine force could have begun all life as cells and we evolved from that?

No, because Jesus spoke of numerous old testament events, AND Genesis. He was a Jew, remember, he studied and believed in the God of the Torah. He was that God's son. Or at least he claimed to be.

You cant have it both ways. You cant believe in both Jesus and evolution. There is only one trinity. Why would he suddenly change his story in the New Testament?

Sticks · 27-10-2009, 04:27 PM

LeatherTrumpet, as someone from the same side, I would advise you to "Quit while you are behind"

No progress is being made here, and you are lapsing into mild Ad Hominems which is never correct.

I have probably been where you are, and you are making some of the the same errors I did when I was younger.

ChristmasNeeve · 27-10-2009, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Sticks

LeatherTrumpet, as someone from the same side, I would advise you to "Quit while you are behind"

No progress is being made here, and you are lapsing into mild Ad Hominems which is never correct.

I have probably been where you are, and you are making some of the the same errors I did when I was younger.

What does that mean Sticks - Ad Hominems?

Christmas Dynasnow · 27-10-2009, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Sticks

LeatherTrumpet, as someone from the same side, I would advise you to "Quit while you are behind"

No progress is being made here, and you are lapsing into mild Ad Hominems which is never correct.

I have probably been where you are, and you are making some of the the same errors I did when I was younger.

are you referring to the teabag. dont worry, I shall be more careful tonight.

but again, I fear you are perhaps taking this forum a touch too seriously. When getting replies like "If I pray hard enough, will God turn my colleague into bread? " or "What a load of ****" or "Blind faith. No getting through to you. I pity the fool."

that may suggest a certain tone! - i am not here to save sinners I am here for mild diversion.

Sticks · 27-10-2009, 04:47 PM

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i am not here to save sinners I am here for mild diversion.

And in the process you run the risk of reinforcing negative stereotypes

Dr.Gonzo · 27-10-2009, 04:58 PM

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And in the process you run the risk of reinforcing negative stereotypes

Absolutely brilliant. I seriously have a case of manlove for you saying that.

Christmas Dynasnow · 27-10-2009, 05:34 PM

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And in the process you run the risk of reinforcing negative stereotypes

and what are those?

(or are you having a "the only Christian in the village" moment?)

Sticks · 28-10-2009, 10:07 AM

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and what are those?

(or are you having a "the only Christian in the village" moment?)

More like a "I have seen this before elsewhere and it never ended well" moment

Others like to get us to do things which appear at variance to certain morals they believe we should have.

By using mild insults and making personal remarks, you play right into that.

Stu · 27-10-2009, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Anyone who believes in Jesus Christ for salvation is forgiven, no matter what sins he has committed (Romans 6:23; John 3:16).

You basically just destroyed the entire Christian moral system. Congratulations.

Do what you want folks. As long as you believe in Jesus, you will be forgiven! Understand God's infinite love through the means of a bastardized, ancient, dog eared, irrelevant group of manuscripts or burn in hell for eternity!

Dawkins was right. Some of you people are mentally ill.

Right now, Dr. Gonzo is totally pissing on this thread.