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Old 13-11-2009, 04:47 PM #76
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Depends on the people. If they will give the child a loving stable home, then not a problem with it. Same as male/female adoptions. It should be the quality of life that the child will have that matters, nothing else.
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Yeah but on a school layground it will still happen?

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normal kid
normal kid
normal kid..

Who they gunna pick on.
Yeh replace that with normal kid with ginger hair...its the prejudice that should be tackled, if kids are educated and society starts to accept it as the norm, then it'll happen less and less, people shouldnt be stopped from having the equal rights because of bullies
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Yep, I agree with Vicky. If a gay couple can provide the same loving environment as a straight couple, I don't see why it shouldn't be an option.

Oh and Wildcat!, you need to remember civil partnerships have only been legal in the UK for about 4 years, which is why the number of gay partnerships compared to straight ones is considerably less. Men and women have been legally getting married for hundreds of years. Imo gay couples don't rush into 'marriage', which is why the dissolution rate is less than straight ones. I also think this proves gay couples are just as responsible as straight couples.
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Yep, I agree with Vicky. If a gay couple can provide the same loving environment as a straight couple, I don't see why it shouldn't be an option.

Oh and Wildcat!, you need to remember civil partnerships have only been legal in the UK for about 4 years, which is why the number of gay partnerships compared to straight ones is considerably less. Men and women have been legally getting married for hundreds of years. Imo gay couples don't rush into 'marriage', which is why the dissolution rate is less than straight ones. I also think this proves gay couples are just as responsible as straight couples.
It's not about who is more responsible at all. I just think having a mother and a father is the best option for the child. But I know that alot of times kids have both but they're bad parents and thats not great either
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Yeh replace that with normal kid with ginger hair...its the prejudice that should be tackled, if kids are educated and society starts to accept it as the norm, then it'll happen less and less, people shouldnt be stopped from having the equal rights because of bullies

There is nothing normal about having 2 gay men as your parents. I would put it as a last resort.
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There is nothing normal about having 2 gay men as your parents. I would put it as a last resort.
Yet judging by your earlier posts, its ok for a child to have two women as parents?
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Two men together looking adopting children, no. 2 women no problem but down the pecking order from a normal male female.
Yes, thought I saw this...
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Yet judging by your earlier posts, its ok for a child to have two women as parents?
would certainly be better than 2 men but again its not ideal.
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would certainly be better than 2 men but again its not ideal.
Whats the difference then? Both are same sex couples, surely if you are against gay men, you should also be against gay women...
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Whats the difference then? Both are same sex couples, surely if you are against gay men, you should also be against gay women...
women have natural affinity for children (what with them making them in their bodies and whatnot). men do not.
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women have natural affinity for children (what with them making them in their bodies and whatnot). men do not.
Gotta laugh at the way you put that

And men can be just as loving, if not more towards children. A lot of women lack the natural maternal instinct anyway, its unfair to say that they would make better parents because they are women tbh.
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women have natural affinity for children (what with them making them in their bodies and whatnot). men do not.
Don't buy that load of old bull! Men always use that to dump the kids on the women. Having the ability to give birth - doesn't automatically make you good with children. I would hope that all people (men and women) love their own kids - but it is a myth created by men that all women love all kids.
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Yeah but on a school layground it will still happen?

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normal kid..

Who they gunna pick on.
I was a 'normal kid',yet I still got bullied. FFS at one point,I got bullied by a redhead! Nowt against redheads btw. Kids will bully other kids for any reason,if they don't like they'll find some reason to bully them,having 2 loving parents isn't always gonna be a reason.
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I was a 'normal kid',yet I still got bullied. FFS at one point,I got bullied by a redhead! Nowt against redheads btw. Kids will bully other kids for any reason,if they don't like they'll find some reason to bully them,having 2 loving parents isn't always gonna be a reason.
we all realise that but in the real world do you think a kid with 2 dads is going to have it easy?
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Don't buy that load of old bull! Men always use that to dump the kids on the women. Having the ability to give birth - doesn't automatically make you good with children. I would hope that all people (men and women) love their own kids - but it is a myth created by men that all women love all kids.
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Yeah but on a school layground it will still happen?

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Who they gunna pick on.
a school playground is just that - a school playground where every single kid is going to get picked, one day it will be the black kid, the next the ginger, the next the gay, the next with one with 2 mums or dads and then the next the one with braces. In this day and age school are so diverse anyway that everyone has something a little different with them. You can;t just assume that because someone has 2 dads they're going to be bullied over someone with one.
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a school playground is just that - a school playground where every single kid is going to get picked, one day it will be the black kid, the next the ginger, the next the gay, the next with one with 2 mums or dads and then the next the one with braces. In this day and age school are so diverse anyway that everyone has something a little different with them. You can;t just assume that because someone has 2 dads they're going to be bullied over someone with one.
I would doubt if "bullying" would be the main problem as say the general day to day school life.
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I'm all for same-sex adoption, I really don't see a problem with it
I don't agree with any reason not to, and I actually think this in the long run would help stamp out homophobia.
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I'd rather see a child brought up by a same-sex couple, being loved and cared for, than see one dragged up by a sixteen year old skank who got pregnant because A) she wanted a council flat, or B) she was too stupid to read the instructions on the contraception.
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I'd rather see a child brought up by a same-sex couple, being loved and cared for, than see one dragged up by a sixteen year old skank who got pregnant because A) she wanted a council flat, or B) she was too stupid to read the instructions on the contraception.
I would rather see a child with its mother than see a child with 2 gay men who hang around parks picking up teenagers.

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I'd rather see a child brought up by a same-sex couple, being loved and cared for, than see one dragged up by a sixteen year old skank who got pregnant because A) she wanted a council flat, or B) she was too stupid to read the instructions on the contraception.
Disagree with the 16 year-old bit - that is a stereotype if ever I heard one. Think that thing about someone getting pregnant to get a council flat is ridiculous - might make up a tiny, tiny percentage at best. As for the contraception bit - that equally applies to the boy/guy who fathered the child -and if he abandoned all responsibility as is often the case - he is a far bigger 'skank' than her!!!
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