[30stone]

Originally Posted by setanta

Wayne Bridge plays for England too and, judging from the tshirts warn by a few of the City players last weekend, he's a well liked young man who's apparently finding it hard to cope at the moment. This could have huge repercussions for the National team.

Where they first team english players...

and of course man city players are gunna stick by him, just like players like lampard have stuck with terry..

[rapunza1977]

Originally Posted by setanta

Wayne Bridge plays for England too and, judging from the tshirts warn by a few of the City players last weekend, he's a well liked young man who's apparently finding it hard to cope at the moment. This could have huge repercussions for the National team.

The players who put on those shirts were not England players, Wayne is also an understudy to Ashley Cole and not regular fixture.

I agree he will be finding it hard to cope - not condoning what JT has done its despicable and immoral however my point is business is business and footy is a major business, stupid for everyone to jump on the bandwagon and tell him to resign - from what I gather he is an excellent leader on the pitch and that is all that matter - as I said before, sh** happens in work and you just need to deal with it, just like this situation. not helped thatmedia is all over it, apparently Wayne has known for some time and its only because of the media backlash and splashed all over the papers that he is feeling totally mortifed, not saying he was not before, but tyhe fact it's out there - detail after details is making it a major major issue.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Abigail Clancy has not been implicated

[Wildcat!]

Originally Posted by 30stone

Ohh yeah lets sack the best captain we have got..

Just shrink our chances of winning the biggest prize in football which brings millions into this country..

Smart..

Terry is the best captain.. he is also the best centre back we have..

Why ruin our chances?

Its a personal issue not for us to control.

Agree completely there! If I was english at least.
But you know what I mean. Football is football. Entertainment. Life, Is much bigger, and some ball player, shouldnt be held to certain standards.

[Alf]

he's in my home city tonight, wonder if vanessa's gonna be here

[Wildcat!]

So basically, its all he said she said craap! Not that it would matter as far as his role as captain, as fAR \as I am concerned of course, I know some people would disagree.

But really, this is very, very silly!

I remember when it happened with Kobe Bryant in the US. He is the LA Lakers superstar, and had to deal with infidelity scandal. Even had a rape allegation on him. BUt Kobe prevailed, because of his Abilities, on the court. I hope it happens for Terry because he is a legend on the field, and I hate to see us football fans, deprived of his contribution.

[setanta]

Originally Posted by Wildcat!

So basically, its all he said she said craap! Not that it would matter as far as his role as captain, as fAR \as I am concerned of course, I know some people would disagree.
.

It has a huge effect on his ability to lead his team when you consider that Wayne Bridge could be on the national team and sure even if he's not there's many who know and like the guy.

As for it being a case of he said, she said: Terry went to court to try and maintain his anonymity concerning all of these allegations, but the judge lifted the injunction on the press and allowed them to reveal his identity.

[Crimson Dynamo]

dont forget that prem football players are really just cab drivers who are very good at football.

terry is an oik, a classic example of poor loveless upbringing, a spiritual vacuum filled with material desire, what you get when you worship money.

The England football team get what they represent and the spineless FA will prevaricate.

Obviously if he really was a captain, he would resign.

[Wildcat!]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

dont forget that prem football players are really just cab drivers who are very good at football.

terry is an oik, a classic example of poor loveless upbringing, a spiritual vacuum filled with material desire, what you get when you worship money.

The England football team get what they represent and the spineless FA will prevaricate.

Obviously if he really was a captain, he would resign.

#]One think, that most american pro athletes have thats unique. Most of the pros are drafted out of college. So other than the athletes coming from europe, modt of them are college graduates, from playing in the NCAA. I think the UK should develop university level football leagues. I am surprised that it doesnt exist.

[WOMBAI]

Disagree that it's a personal issue! The effectiveness of his job relies on more than just his footballing skills. It also relies on him being able to gain a certain amount of respect from the public, other footballers and management. Lack of respect and bad morale between the players is extremely detrimental to his position. His effectiveness as a captain/manager is dependent upon his ability to gain respect and that has been severely compromised by his behaviour!

[Alf]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

Disagree that it's a personal issue! The effectiveness of his job relies on more than just his footballing skills. It also relies on him being able to gain a certain amount of respect from the public, other footballers and management. Lack of respect and bad morale between the players is extremely detrimental to his position. His effectiveness as a captain/manager is dependent upon his ability to gain respect and that has been severely compromised by his behaviour!

england football fans (real ones) have respect for him as a player, which is what really matters and i'd wager the large majority if not all of his england team mates do aswell.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by wannashag

england football fans (real ones) have respect for him as a player, which is what really matters and i'd wager the large majority if not all of his england team mates do aswell.

so what if he was done for child computer porn?

[Alf]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

so what if he was done for child computer porn?

but he hasn't, and that would be a totally different situation than having a concenting adult relationship.
if that was the case then i'm sure people would lose respect for him.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

so what if he was done for child computer porn?

What a silly point, that'd be different because that's a crime and a serious one at that. Cheating's not illegal, immoral yes but it's their problem not ours.

Like somebody else said the world cup brings money into this country but it also brings England together. The community spirit, the hope the joy of a goal ETC. The World cup is good for morale of the country so why hurt our chances because of one person's personal problems? He obviously can leave them outside the stadium and so should we. When he plays football that is all that matters. I'm not condoning him cheating I'm just saying that he's good at what he does and punishing him for something that doesn't concern us is only punishing ourselves in the long run.

He's recieving a roasting from the media already and his marriage is probably over, what more do you want? Blood?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

What a silly point, that'd be different because that's a crime and a serious one at that. Cheating's not illegal, immoral yes but it's their problem not ours.

Like somebody else said the world cup brings money into this country but it also brings England together. The community spirit, the hope the joy of a goal ETC. The World cup is good for morale of the country so why hurt our chances because of one person's personal problems? He obviously can leave them outside the stadium and so should we. When he plays football that is all that matters. I'm not condoning him cheating I'm just saying that he's good at what he does and punishing him for something that doesn't concern us is only punishing ourselves in the long run.

He's recieving a roasting from the media already and his marriage is probably over, what more do you want? Blood?

i am just ascertaining what the ceiling is?

so having criminal parents, one a drug dealer, and cheating on partners and team mates seems to be ok. so how far does one need to go?

[Wildcat!]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

What a silly point, that'd be different because that's a crime and a serious one at that. Cheating's not illegal, immoral yes but it's their problem not ours.

Like somebody else said the world cup brings money into this country but it also brings England together. The community spirit, the hope the joy of a goal ETC. The World cup is good for morale of the country so why hurt our chances because of one person's personal problems? He obviously can leave them outside the stadium and so should we. When he plays football that is all that matters. I'm not condoning him cheating I'm just saying that he's good at what he does and punishing him for something that doesn't concern us is only punishing ourselves in the long run.

He's recieving a roasting from the media already and his marriage is probably over, what more do you want? Blood?

I could not have put it any better. Pretty much how I feel about the whole thing.

[minder_fan_87]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

Disagree that it's a personal issue! The effectiveness of his job relies on more than just his footballing skills. It also relies on him being able to gain a certain amount of respect from the public, other footballers and management. Lack of respect and bad morale between the players is extremely detrimental to his position. His effectiveness as a captain/manager is dependent upon his ability to gain respect and that has been severely compromised by his behaviour!

what would you know about football your a bird

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by minder_fan_87

what would you know about football your a bird

And your a sexist halfwit - whose opinion doesn't count for much on any subject!

[Crimson Dynamo]

Football is a filthy business that has no morals, only the fans are decent. The precedent was set long ago. JT is exactly the right person to represent what football is.

[30stone]

Wayne bridge will most likely leave..

We can bring in possibly Kieran gibbs to replace him..
As we all know Cole is above Bridge anyway.

We lost terry who do we bring in..?

[Alf]

Originally Posted by 30stone

Wayne bridge will most likely leave..

We can bring in possibly Kieran gibbs to replace him..
As we all know Cole is above Bridge anyway.

We lost terry who do we bring in..?

gibbs can get to the back of the que, leighton baines comes first

[setanta]

You see, this is the mental thing about the attitude that's being shown on here: It seems to me that alot of people are defending Terry because of his high profile. I wonder how you'd react to news of a fringe player behaving in this manner. Chances are you'd be telling us that he should be out of the team.

If Bridge had done it to Terry he'd be out the door immediately. That's crazy.

[rapunza1977]

Originally Posted by setanta

You see, this is the mental thing about the attitude that's being shown on here: It seems to me that alot of people are defending Terry because of his high profile. I wonder how you'd react to news of a fringe player behaving in this manner. Chances are you'd be telling us that he should be out of the team.

If Bridge had done it to Terry he'd be out the door immediately. That's crazy.

?? how can you say that....................people have affairs - one nights stands behind partners back all the time - condoning nothing, do they get sacked? No - they have to deal with it..........which these guys will do ..... JT should not be asked to leave his position because of it.........they did not sack Sven when he was playing away..it's ludicrous and a complete media frenzy, as I said before, I bet Toni Poole will not leave JT

[setanta]

Originally Posted by rapunza1977

?? how can you say that....................people have affairs - one nights stands behind partners back all the time - condoning nothing, do they get sacked? No - they have to deal with it..........which these guys will do ..... JT should not be asked to leave his position because of it.........they did not sack Sven when he was playing away..it's ludicrous and a complete media frenzy, as I said before, I bet Toni Poole will not leave JT

Wayne Bridge wouldn't be defended as strongly in here if the roles were reversed. That's fairly obvious to me.

Terry was f£cking his friend's girlfriend... his friend being a teammate too and he's the captain. Come on.

[rapunza1977]

Originally Posted by setanta

Wayne Bridge wouldn't be defended as strongly in here if the roles were reversed. That's fairly obvious to me.

Terry was f£cking his friend's girlfriend... his friend being a teammate too and he's the captain. Come on.

I am not condoning it.......................looking at the bigger picture!

I am not an England fan by the way, but I can see the bigger picture, it's about what he does on the pitch!

How do you know they would not defend Wayne Bridges if roles reversed? How can you say this?

Wayne happily leant JT his house on occasion so JT could get it on with another wannabee so this shows Wayne condoned extra martial affairs!!