[rapunza1977]

Originally Posted by setanta

Wayne Bridge plays for England too and, judging from the tshirts warn by a few of the City players last weekend, he's a well liked young man who's apparently finding it hard to cope at the moment. This could have huge repercussions for the National team.

The players who put on those shirts were not England players, Wayne is also an understudy to Ashley Cole and not regular fixture.

I agree he will be finding it hard to cope - not condoning what JT has done its despicable and immoral however my point is business is business and footy is a major business, stupid for everyone to jump on the bandwagon and tell him to resign - from what I gather he is an excellent leader on the pitch and that is all that matter - as I said before, sh** happens in work and you just need to deal with it, just like this situation. not helped thatmedia is all over it, apparently Wayne has known for some time and its only because of the media backlash and splashed all over the papers that he is feeling totally mortifed, not saying he was not before, but tyhe fact it's out there - detail after details is making it a major major issue.

[rapunza1977]

Originally Posted by setanta

Lies? The judge ruled over it and decided to allow the papers to print it. What more do you need?

talking about media reports, not saying it is all lies however there are untruths and truths and this is why she is preparing to get her story out there

[Crimson Dynamo]

Football is a filthy business that has no morals, only the fans are decent. The precedent was set long ago. JT is exactly the right person to represent what football is.

[30stone]

Wayne bridge will most likely leave..

We can bring in possibly Kieran gibbs to replace him..
As we all know Cole is above Bridge anyway.

We lost terry who do we bring in..?

[setanta]

You see, this is the mental thing about the attitude that's being shown on here: It seems to me that alot of people are defending Terry because of his high profile. I wonder how you'd react to news of a fringe player behaving in this manner. Chances are you'd be telling us that he should be out of the team.

If Bridge had done it to Terry he'd be out the door immediately. That's crazy.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by 30stone

Wayne bridge will most likely leave..

We can bring in possibly Kieran gibbs to replace him..
As we all know Cole is above Bridge anyway.

We lost terry who do we bring in..?

gibbs can get to the back of the que, leighton baines comes first

[Wildcat!]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

dont forget that prem football players are really just cab drivers who are very good at football.

terry is an oik, a classic example of poor loveless upbringing, a spiritual vacuum filled with material desire, what you get when you worship money.

The England football team get what they represent and the spineless FA will prevaricate.

Obviously if he really was a captain, he would resign.

#]One think, that most american pro athletes have thats unique. Most of the pros are drafted out of college. So other than the athletes coming from europe, modt of them are college graduates, from playing in the NCAA. I think the UK should develop university level football leagues. I am surprised that it doesnt exist.

[Enid]

Didn't he win dad of the year or something? I'd be absolutely mortified if I was the wife or kid.

He is going to get stripped, but at least now that this is in the spotlight, there's less pressure on the team to win.

[rapunza1977]

Originally Posted by setanta

You see, this is the mental thing about the attitude that's being shown on here: It seems to me that alot of people are defending Terry because of his high profile. I wonder how you'd react to news of a fringe player behaving in this manner. Chances are you'd be telling us that he should be out of the team.

If Bridge had done it to Terry he'd be out the door immediately. That's crazy.

?? how can you say that....................people have affairs - one nights stands behind partners back all the time - condoning nothing, do they get sacked? No - they have to deal with it..........which these guys will do ..... JT should not be asked to leave his position because of it.........they did not sack Sven when he was playing away..it's ludicrous and a complete media frenzy, as I said before, I bet Toni Poole will not leave JT

[Crimson Dynamo]

Abigail Clancy has not been implicated

[Alf]

Originally Posted by setanta

You see, this is the mental thing about the attitude that's being shown on here: It seems to me that alot of people are defending Terry because of his high profile. I wonder how you'd react to news of a fringe player behaving in this manner. Chances are you'd be telling us that he should be out of the team.

If Bridge had done it to Terry he'd be out the door immediately. That's crazy.

i have no doubt that fringe players do act in this manner, just that the high profile players make for better fish and chip paper, if it was lets say mark noble who did this, nobody would even care and he is the former england u21 captain

[Wildcat!]

Originally Posted by Enid

Didn't he win dad of the year or something? I'd be absolutely mortified if I was the wife or kid.

He is going to get stripped, but at least now that this is in the spotlight, there's less pressure on the team to win.

Fair enough, but it shouldnt have any effect on the football field. As a matter of fact, it usually means the player focuses a lot more on the field, when he is dealing with off field issues. Thats speaking from things that I have observed.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

so what if he was done for child computer porn?

What a silly point, that'd be different because that's a crime and a serious one at that. Cheating's not illegal, immoral yes but it's their problem not ours.

Like somebody else said the world cup brings money into this country but it also brings England together. The community spirit, the hope the joy of a goal ETC. The World cup is good for morale of the country so why hurt our chances because of one person's personal problems? He obviously can leave them outside the stadium and so should we. When he plays football that is all that matters. I'm not condoning him cheating I'm just saying that he's good at what he does and punishing him for something that doesn't concern us is only punishing ourselves in the long run.

He's recieving a roasting from the media already and his marriage is probably over, what more do you want? Blood?

[setanta]

Originally Posted by rapunza1977

?? how can you say that....................people have affairs - one nights stands behind partners back all the time - condoning nothing, do they get sacked? No - they have to deal with it..........which these guys will do ..... JT should not be asked to leave his position because of it.........they did not sack Sven when he was playing away..it's ludicrous and a complete media frenzy, as I said before, I bet Toni Poole will not leave JT

Wayne Bridge wouldn't be defended as strongly in here if the roles were reversed. That's fairly obvious to me.

Terry was f£cking his friend's girlfriend... his friend being a teammate too and he's the captain. Come on.

[setanta]

Originally Posted by wannashag

i have no doubt that fringe players do act in this manner, just that the high profile players make for better fish and chip paper, if it was lets say mark noble who did this, nobody would even care and he is the former england u21 captain

Yes, you wouldn't care and they'd be out the door. Do you not see the blinkered view you have of it all just because of the high profile that Terry has as a footballer?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

What a silly point, that'd be different because that's a crime and a serious one at that. Cheating's not illegal, immoral yes but it's their problem not ours.

Like somebody else said the world cup brings money into this country but it also brings England together. The community spirit, the hope the joy of a goal ETC. The World cup is good for morale of the country so why hurt our chances because of one person's personal problems? He obviously can leave them outside the stadium and so should we. When he plays football that is all that matters. I'm not condoning him cheating I'm just saying that he's good at what he does and punishing him for something that doesn't concern us is only punishing ourselves in the long run.

He's recieving a roasting from the media already and his marriage is probably over, what more do you want? Blood?

i am just ascertaining what the ceiling is?

so having criminal parents, one a drug dealer, and cheating on partners and team mates seems to be ok. so how far does one need to go?

[Wildcat!]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

What a silly point, that'd be different because that's a crime and a serious one at that. Cheating's not illegal, immoral yes but it's their problem not ours.

Like somebody else said the world cup brings money into this country but it also brings England together. The community spirit, the hope the joy of a goal ETC. The World cup is good for morale of the country so why hurt our chances because of one person's personal problems? He obviously can leave them outside the stadium and so should we. When he plays football that is all that matters. I'm not condoning him cheating I'm just saying that he's good at what he does and punishing him for something that doesn't concern us is only punishing ourselves in the long run.

He's recieving a roasting from the media already and his marriage is probably over, what more do you want? Blood?

I could not have put it any better. Pretty much how I feel about the whole thing.

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

i am just ascertaining what the ceiling is?

so having criminal parents, one a drug dealer, and cheating on partners and team mates seems to be ok. so how far does one need to go?

You can't hold someone responsible for what their parents do - that IS ridiculous!

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

i am just ascertaining what the ceiling is?

so having criminal parents, one a drug dealer, and cheating on partners and team mates seems to be ok. so how far does one need to go?

There's a difference between crime and personal problems, if someone you didn't know who lived in your town cheated on someone would you bay for their blood and try to get them sacked? No you'd leave them to it. Personal problems should be just that, personal. The who family's gonna suffer because of this and He's definately gonna get the worst, why strip him of a title he's good at and harm our own chances for personal troubles.

Now if he was a criminal that would be different, and I don't really need to go into details as a baboon could see why.

That point about the parents confuses me, are you saying he's to blame for having criminal parents? If it is then it's another ridiculous point, If your parents have made bad choices in life then you should learn from their mistakes and experiences and forge a different path.

[rapunza1977]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

You can't hold someone responsible for what their parents do - that IS ridiculous!

em .............. no I believe you can

I always blame the parents..................

[Wildcat!]

The WC is so much about national pride, on a non violent, beautiful, sporting event, you only focus on the craft, itself. At least I do! I only see how good, or how bad they play on the field. Terry is a beast on the field. He can make a difference, in games.

I soo wish, senegal was going this year!

But the WC is da bomb regardless!!!

[Alf]

Originally Posted by setanta

Yes, you wouldn't care and they'd be out the door. Do you not see the blinkered view you have of it all just because of the high profile that Terry has as a footballer?

i dont care that john terry had an affair in his private life,his life he can do what he wants for me, i care about england winning the world cup and having the best men for the job, and in my opinion john terry is the best man for the england captaincy job,
it's people who are trying to hang him for something that is nothing to do with them. and i'd take the same attitude with any player.
if bridge and terry can not sort their differences then copello should be the man to make the decision not the gutter press or the so called pundits (who have only played sunday league football on their local park)

[rapunza1977]

Originally Posted by setanta

Wayne Bridge wouldn't be defended as strongly in here if the roles were reversed. That's fairly obvious to me.

Terry was f£cking his friend's girlfriend... his friend being a teammate too and he's the captain. Come on.

I am not condoning it.......................looking at the bigger picture!

I am not an England fan by the way, but I can see the bigger picture, it's about what he does on the pitch!

How do you know they would not defend Wayne Bridges if roles reversed? How can you say this?

Wayne happily leant JT his house on occasion so JT could get it on with another wannabee so this shows Wayne condoned extra martial affairs!!

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Novo

We need lionheart terry to be our rock at the back for the world cup

Everyone will forgive him when he heads home a 90th minute corner against brazil

or slips over when he takes a penalty that could win the game

[setanta]

Originally Posted by wannashag

i dont care that john terry had an affair in his private life,his life he can do what he wants for me, i care about england winning the world cup and having the best men for the job, and in my opinion john terry is the best man for the england captaincy job,
it's people who are trying to hang him for something that is nothing to do with them. and i'd take the same attitude with any player.
if bridge and terry can not sort their differences then copello should be the man to make the decision not the gutter press or the so called pundits (who have only played sunday league football on their local park)

But Wayne Bridge is hurting right now and wants nothing to do with Terry. He's even considered just abandoning his England career. This could have a huge impact on the English team, especially since Terry is the captain and should lead by example. What example is he setting in this particular moment?

Oh, and Terry wont resign so it's down to Capello now.

Like I said, if this was a fringe player the reaction would be totally different on here.