[Shasown]

Originally Posted by lostalex

There is no evidence for this case at all. You do know that arabs have been trained to LIE and fabricate stories as propaganda against the US, right?

Terrorists learn how to exagerate stories and make themselves into victims as a form of propaganda. It's well known. Just like they know to hide behind women and children, so when they are attacked, they use them as human shields, so that it makes America look bad. They want as many civilian casualties as possible.

You are incredibly naive if you believe the word of an arab over the word of an American.

No I think it is you who are deluded, did you read the link posted?

Are you saying the document is not from the person stated about this case?

The document, a 2007 cable from the U.S. Embassy in Berlin, describes a meeting during which the then-deputy chief of the U.S. mission to Germany, John M. Koenig, urged German officials to "weigh carefully at every step of the way the implications for relations with the U.S." of issuing international arrest warrants in the El-Masri case

Rendition type flights have been used for over 30 years. Prior to persons of Middle Eastern origin, it used to be Latin Americans who copped a free ride on CIA airlines.

[lostalex]

Yea, against terrorists who harmed national interests. What's wrong with that?

Just cause there isn't enuf evidence to convict them in a court of law, doesn't mean they are innocent. That's all i'm saying. the terrorists are well trained about our justice system, and know how to manipulate it to their advantage.

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by lostalex

Yea, against terrorists who harmed national interests. What's wrong with that?

Just cause there isn't enuf evidence to convict them in a court of law, doesn't mean they are innocent. That's all i'm saying. the terrorists are well trained about our justice system, and know how to manipulate it to their advantage.

Errr no the Central and South American citizens that flew with your delightful intelligence chappies included left wing politicians, political activists and some criminals including Drug Lords etc.

Hardly out to blow up the White House. But hey they really did threaten Moms Apple Pie and the American way of life eh?

[arista]

Yes America
does not want this info public.

Until Barrack says what he wants in Law
it is never ending flow.

[Snaked Worm]

The american response is frankly embarrassing and shameful and the fact that some try and defend it is a sign of how institutionalised they have become its almost like they accept being kept almost like pets or children and told what is good for them.

The releases are hardly earth shattering so far we all knew how overbearing,deceptive,controlling and arrogant the american goverment were.

The big difference now is they cant pretend otherwise anymore they were frankly stupid to think they could rule the world and make no mistake thats the illusion that they have been under for many years now.

Piss off america you might be able to keep the majority of your own country ignorant to the opinion of the rest of the world but thats where it ends.

The fifth reich just fell on its arse.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Snaked Worm

The american response is frankly embarrassing and shameful and the fact that some try and defend it is a sign of how institutionalised they have become its almost like they accept being kept almost like pets or children and told what is good for them.

The releases are hardly earth shattering so far we all knew how overbearing,deceptive,controlling and arrogant the american goverment were.

The big difference now is they cant pretend otherwise anymore they were frankly stupid to think they could rule the world and make no mistake thats the illusion that they have been under for many years now.

Piss off america you might be able to keep the majority of your own country ignorant to the opinion of the rest of the world but thats where it ends.

The fifth reich just fell on its arse.

And you can piss off with yur socialist ostrich-head-in-the-sand APPEASEMENT strategies that lead you into 2 world wars that AMERICA had to bail you out of.

You're lucky your'e so profitable to us. Make sure that doesn't change, for your own sake.

And stop crying every time Obama doesn't give you enuf attention. "wahhh obama returned winston churchill's bust, wahhh obama gave Brown a bunch of DVD's, WAHHH America doesn't love us anymore!"

And i wonder why....???

Grow the eff up Europe, srsly.

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by lostalex

And you can piss off with yur socialist ostrich-head-in-the-sand APPEASEMENT strategies that lead you into 2 world wars that AMERICA had to bail you out of.

You're lucky your'e so profitable to us. Make sure that doesn't change, for your own sake.

And stop crying every time Obama doesn't give you enuf attention. "wahhh obama returned winston churchill's bust, wahhh obama gave Brown a bunch of DVD's, WAHHH America doesn't love us anymore!"

And i wonder why....???

Grow the eff up Europe, srsly.

I would recommend you find a good unbiased book or internet site on history and read up on both world wars if I was you before making such rash claims.

Otherwise you will only make yourself look like an ignorant spam who thinks the universe revolves around the US.....

OOops that warning came a little late.

Soooooooorrrrrrrryyyyyyyyy.

You didnt bother replying to the party invite till you knew which way the party was going in the first one.

The second one was won by the Russians not you, you helped us a little bit is all. Purely out of self interest. Thats why you stayed off the mainland of Europe till Germany had all but spent itself against the Soviets.

You should also remember that soon you wont be THE major player in world politics or that big a player in world economics.

Oooops again too late.

[arista]

Julian Assange, founder of WikiLeaks has been released on bail with strict conditions.


He is out now and can now speed up more leaks.

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Wor...ict_Conditions

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by arista

Julian Assange, founder of WikiLeaks has been released on bail with strict conditions.


He is out now and can now speed up more leaks.

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Wor...ict_Conditions

Oh dear standby for a major illinformed rant about justice etc from our resident Sherman.

[arista]

They have to pay £240,000
to the court , no cheque.


A Nightclub owner
has given the court a London address for Assange.


The Lawyer has just said Live
they have put the begging bowl out
to get that high cash amount.


Sweden has put in a appeal
but since he has a place to stay
its though he should still be out on bail.

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by arista

They have to pay £240,000
to the court , no cheque.


A Nightclub owner
has given the court a London address for Assange.


The Lawyer has just said Live
they have put the begging bowl out
to get that high cash amount.


Sweden has put in a appeal
but since he has a place to stay
its though he should still be out on bail.

No mate he stays in custody until a review of the Swedish appeal details has been completed.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11989216

[arista]

International media mingle police and protesters outside court

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz186bQIguM

[arista]

[arista]

[arista]

"No mate he stays in custody until a review of the Swedish appeal details has been completed."

Yes I know that
but I am sure he should be Free
after that review is done
and now he has a Local Place to stay.

Last time giving a PO box number
from Down Under - was silly.

[arista]

Tomorrow is the day he fins out if Sweden has Won.

[lostalex]

What julian assange raping 2 women in Sweden has to do with the US, i have no idea.

If the USA had as much power as you all seem to think we do, you'd already be dead.

Basically al the furore has shown about the US so far is that, wow, the US is serious about all the things it's always said it was serious about. Wow, the US is concerned about terrorists?? NEWSFLASH! Wow, the Us is interested in promoting US business?? NEWSFLASH! Wow the US acts in the interests of it's own people first??? NEWSFLASH!

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by lostalex

What julian assange raping 2 women in Sweden has to do with the US, i have no idea.

If the USA had as much power as you all seem to think we do, you'd already be dead.

Basically al the furore has shown about the US so far is that, wow, the US is serious about all the things it's always said it was serious about. Wow, the US is concerned about terrorists?? NEWSFLASH! Wow, the Us is interested in promoting US business?? NEWSFLASH! Wow the US acts in the interests of it's own people first??? NEWSFLASH!

Ever heard of the phrase "Ei incumbit probatio qui dicit, non qui negat"?

Incidentally I would recommend looking up the facts before making stupid comments.

Loved this line "Wow, the US is concerned about terrorists?? " you should do comedy. Isnt it funny how America didnt give a toss about terrorism when it was occuring to their friends and allies in the 60's, 70's, 80's and 90's? Strange that one aint it?

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Shasown

Ever heard of the phrase "Ei incumbit probatio qui dicit, non qui negat"?

Incidentally I would recommend looking up the facts before making stupid comments.

Loved this line "Wow, the US is concerned about terrorists?? " you should do comedy. Isnt it funny how America didnt give a toss about terrorism when it was occuring to their friends and allies in the 60's, 70's, 80's and 90's? Strange that one aint it?

I OBVIOSLY meant terrorism that effects white Americans, DUHHH.

[arista]

It is Not Rape.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by arista

It is Not Rape.

That's for a court in Sweden to decide.

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by lostalex

That's for a court in Sweden to decide.

Indeed it is that is why you shouldnt say

Originally Posted by lostalex

What julian assange raping 2 women in Sweden has to do with the US, i have no idea.

You know Innocent till proven guilty - Ei incumbit probatio qui dicit, non qui negat (Burden of proof and all that).

After handing himself in to police he was arrested on suspicion of commiting sexual offences in Sweden.

Incidentally he is only wanted for questioning in Sweden, as for the rape allegations its interesting to note earlier this year the Swedish Chief Prosecutor withdrew international arrest warrants stating "I don't think there is reason to suspect that he has committed rape"

Got to love this comment from the gobsh1te who wants to be the first female President - Palin has said WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange should be hunted down in the way armed forces are targeting the Taliban and Al-Qaeda. I would love to see her in full PMS flow with her finger on the nuke button.

Its also interesting to note that after the issue of the "interpol red notice" (request to locate) Assange offered to meet with Swedish Prosecutors in either London or Sweden provided they furnished him with details of the alleged offences and statements against him in a language he understood(English) The Swedish Prosecution Service refused.

[lostalex]

Sarah Palin is NO ONE. She has no political office, she has no power At ALL in America. Right now, the only job she has is reality TV star.

She has no more power than Kim Kardashian or Paris Hilton or any other reality TV star.

[arista]

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-...radition_Moves

Yes he is now on bail.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by arista

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-...radition_Moves

Yes he is now on bail.

why doesn't he just voluntarily go back to sweden to face the charges if he has nothing to hide??? why is he fighting extradition?? the swedes have already said that they have not been influenced by the USA at all.

If he was a man that believes in transparency and justice, he'd go to Sweden and face the charges like a man.

But instead he's hiding behind Wikileaks as an excuse for raping 2 women. He thinks because he's a co-founder of Wikileaks he's ABOVE justice.

He wants "star" treatment. He thinks he can get away with it because he's a "celebrity" now.