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Jords · 19-12-2010, 09:19 AM

They dont have much of a life, and it would be a lot of hard work.
I dont like the idea of abortion, but yes I would.

Patrick · 06-01-2011, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Jords

They dont have much of a life, and it would be a lot of hard work.
I dont like the idea of abortion, but yes I would.

rofl You make them sound like Dead Hamsters.

The babies don't have much life, but when they grow up they're a pocket full of sunshine.

...Well sometimes.

My mate has Down Syndrome and he's abit..awkward at times but you know.

Billy's Daughter in EastEnders, Now she's lifeless so I see what you mean.

Barbie · 19-12-2010, 03:48 PM

Not 100% sure where i stand on this,

I think for a first child, its going to be tough and a downs baby tougher. A second child i think i'd be more prepared to take on a downs child. If i struggled i couldn't give the baby up for adoption or put the baby through my failures. So i think i would abort if it was my first baby. Hard to say because im not in the situation.

heretoday · 06-01-2011, 11:33 AM

I had a termination 7 years ago for similar reasons and it was a VERY difficult decision to make. I found out at 17 weeks that my baby had severe spina bifida and fluid on the brain. I got a 2nd opinion and spoke to staff at Alder Hey who work with children affected by neural tube defects to try and help me with my decision. I was told my baby would have no quality of life, it would be paralysed and have bowel and bladder incontinence as well as problems with the brain.

At 18 weeks 6 days I was induced and gave birth to a sleeping daughter, my first child with my husband of just 4 months, and a very much wanted baby. It was very very sad and traumatic and it took me a long time to come to terms with.

All I can say is, what happened to me has changed me as a person into a much more compassionate and non-judgemental soul, and I am thankful for this. My husband and I never survived the year following this (and a move overseas) but I now have two healthy boys thanks to a prescription of high strength folic acid in both pregnancies.

I don't know what I would have done if it had been Down's Syndrome, but I don't envy anyone parent who finds themself in a position of trying to do what they believe is best for the child, the parents and other siblings.

Claymores · 06-01-2011, 12:00 PM

that is a wow of a post heretoday and sorry for your loss. A very great post

Kerry · 06-01-2011, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by heretoday

I had a termination 7 years ago for similar reasons and it was a VERY difficult decision to make. I found out at 17 weeks that my baby had severe spina bifida and fluid on the brain. I got a 2nd opinion and spoke to staff at Alder Hey who work with children affected by neural tube defects to try and help me with my decision. I was told my baby would have no quality of life, it would be paralysed and have bowel and bladder incontinence as well as problems with the brain.

At 18 weeks 6 days I was induced and gave birth to a sleeping daughter, my first child with my husband of just 4 months, and a very much wanted baby. It was very very sad and traumatic and it took me a long time to come to terms with.

All I can say is, what happened to me has changed me as a person into a much more compassionate and non-judgemental soul, and I am thankful for this. My husband and I never survived the year following this (and a move overseas) but I now have two healthy boys thanks to a prescription of high strength folic acid in both pregnancies.

I don't know what I would have done if it had been Down's Syndrome, but I don't envy anyone parent who finds themself in a position of trying to do what they believe is best for the child, the parents and other siblings.

So sorry about your little girl and also the break up. It must have been devastating

Beastie · 06-01-2011, 11:44 PM

It all depends how severe Downs Syndrome is. Look at Becky on Glee. She is a little actress who has Downs Syndrome. They would get as good as a quality life like the rest of us. Just that for them it would be a bit harder. However they are not worth terminating. Plenty of children who go to these special schools seems happy with themselves. They feel sh!t when ordinary people bully them. However anyone can get bullied.

abbey97 · 07-01-2011, 12:59 AM

No, it shouldn't matter if they have down syndrome, it's still your baby!

Patrick · 07-01-2011, 01:05 AM

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No, it shouldn't matter if they have down syndrome, it's still your baby!

But if you don't want you're baby then you don't have to have it, if it's like handicap.

If you don't want it because your a young ******ing chavy tart who couldn't afford free contraception, then tough you're keeping it.

But if you can't deal with a retarded baby then, there's nothing you can do, you could always put it up for adoption though.

Kerry · 07-01-2011, 01:11 AM

Patrick whats got into you tonight, seriously?

Patrick · 07-01-2011, 01:13 AM

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Patrick whats got into you tonight, seriously?

Well I had a talk with UKTurtle and he sort of showed me the light it was like seeing Jesus.

So basically I've calmed down alot now and I'm not as aggressive towards people as I apparently once was constantly.

Kerry · 07-01-2011, 01:14 AM

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Well I had a talk with UKTurtle and he sort of showed me the light it was like seeing Jesus.

So basically I've calmed down alot now and I'm not as aggressive towards people as I apparently once was constantly.

OK. Just you seem edgy tonight. Not yourself anyway

Patrick · 07-01-2011, 01:17 AM

I'm worried now.

Beastie · 07-01-2011, 01:33 AM

Yeah I prefer the more fun Patrick. It gets bugging when Paddy get aggressive!

Patrick · 07-01-2011, 01:35 AM

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Yeah I prefer the more fun Patrick. It gets bugging when Paddy get aggressive!

I'm calmer tonight than I've ever been?

Kerry · 07-01-2011, 01:37 AM

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I'm calmer tonight than I've ever been?

You're not. For a couple of days you've been rather ranty. Even swearing at admin

Anyway, not a discussion for here really

Beastie · 07-01-2011, 01:38 AM

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I'm calmer tonight than I've ever been?

Yeah right. Okay then.

Kerry · 07-01-2011, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by thebeast

Yeah I prefer the more fun Patrick. It gets bugging when Paddy get aggressive!

I'm not used to seeing it, hence noticing

Patrick · 07-01-2011, 01:40 AM

ew.

I need to die or something, I thought I was calm tonight after I spoke to UKTurtle.
I can't believe I swore at an Admin, I hope it wasn't Kaz she's lovely.

But yes you're right, We can't have this topic going off...topic, so let's get back to the discussion of babies.

Lee. · 07-01-2011, 01:45 AM

Sorry, just to keep it off topic for just one more post.. Bu t I think Patrick has his reasonable head on tonight

Kerry · 07-01-2011, 01:47 AM

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Sorry, just to keep it off topic for just one more post.. Bu t I think Patrick has his reasonable head on tonight

It was earlier stuff. Patricks fine. Just a little odd tonight and yesterday. Again, just an observation

I did ask if he was OK

Locke. · 07-01-2011, 01:47 AM

Patrick has been a lot calmer tonight than most of the people complaining usually are

Kerry · 07-01-2011, 01:48 AM

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Patrick has been a lot calmer tonight than most of the people complaining usually are

I've just never seen him like that. Simple. For heavens sake. I don't read all his posts!

Kerry · 07-01-2011, 01:50 AM

FFS the packs in town

Locke. · 07-01-2011, 01:50 AM

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I've just never seen him like that. Simple. For heavens sake. I don't read all his posts!

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