[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by InOne

If help is easy to find then why is it happening? And why Africa? Why not help Indians in poverty? It's like deciding who is more worthy or something so I'd rather just help people in the UK in need first.

People are actually starving to death in Africa though, people in the UK aren't. The thought of dying like that or having to watch your kids die like that is just horrific. You were lucky enough to be born in the UK, try to imagine if you did happen to be born over there and everyone just turned their backs and said "it's not my problem"

[Redway]

Originally Posted by InOne

If help is easy to find then why is it happening? And why Africa? Why not help Indians in poverty? It's like deciding who is more worthy or something so I'd rather just help people in the UK in need first.

Well, India isn't in severe enough famine. Seeing as they mentioned Africa, I'd happily go down there and help.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

People are actually starving to death in Africa though, people in the UK aren't. The thought of dying like that or having to watch your kids die like that is just horrific. You were lucky enough to be born in the UK, try to imagine if you did happen to be born over there and everyone just turned their backs and said "it's not my problem"

Exactly. The worst that can happen in the UK is not having a bed to sleep on (and that's usually down to child abuse). People in Africa are actually starving. When was the last time somebody was starving in England (excluding child abuse)? Never. Even if they were, you can get something for £1 just down the street. In Somalia (for example), you'd probably have to walk hundreds of miles, before you could reach a shop, and, in famine, do they really have the energy to walk all the way?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Redway

When was the last time somebody was starving in England (excluding child abuse)?

Elderly people are starved to death every year in the UK - the sixth richest country in the world.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

Elderly people are starved to death every year in the UK - the sixth richest country in the world.

I might be wrong but isn't that more to do with the fact elderly people don't feel hunger as they get older and just stop eating and less to do with poverty?

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I might be wrong but isn't that more to do with the fact elderly people don't feel hunger as they get older and just stop eating and less to do with poverty?

You're right. Most of them can't be bothered eating.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I might be wrong but isn't that more to do with the fact elderly people don't feel hunger as they get older and just stop eating and less to do with poverty?

It's more to do with the people who are caring for them failing on almost every level to offer them any kind of care at all. I don't see any haunting TV commercials about that. the question was, when was the last time someone starved to death in the UK.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Redway

You're right. Most of them can't be bothered eating.

Most of them can't be bothered eating? Do you think elderly people are a different species? Most of the elderly people who starve to death, do so in care homes while being charged thousands of pounds a month to be looked after.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

It's more to do with the people who are caring for them failing on almost every level to offer them any kind of care at all. I don't see any haunting TV commercials about that. the question was, when was the last time someone starved to death in the UK.

Yes, I see your point but I think that it's down to completely different reasons, like, we on the side of the globe seeming to have lost all sense of community.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

Most of them can't be bothered eating? Do you think elderly people are a different species? Most of the elderly people who starve to death, do so in care homes while being charged thousands of pounds a month to be looked after.

really? that I am shocked by

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

really? that I am shocked by

Well... it's shocking! And care home owners make a fortune from elderly people and their families, yet pay their care workers minimum wage.

I realise it's a different topic... but it does happen to people who are powerless, wherever they live.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

Well... it's shocking! And care home owners make a fortune from elderly people and their families, yet pay their care workers minimum wage.

I realise it's a different topic... but it does happen to people who are powerless, wherever they live.

Yeah, care homes are so expensive and yeah, you are right of course, I suppose with Africa it seems to happen on a much grander scheme. Unfortunately though, it will never change unless something is done about their corrupt governments and police :/

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Livia

Most of them can't be bothered eating? Do you think elderly people are a different species? Most of the elderly people who starve to death, do so in care homes while being charged thousands of pounds a month to be looked after.

I can believe this. A lot of 'care' homes are ridiculous.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

People are actually starving to death in Africa though, people in the UK aren't. The thought of dying like that or having to watch your kids die like that is just horrific. You were lucky enough to be born in the UK, try to imagine if you did happen to be born over there and everyone just turned their backs and said "it's not my problem"

But still, whilst our own are in poverty, they should be made priorty. Need to sort ourselves our before we help others which is our main problem.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by InOne

But still, whilst our own are in poverty, they should be made priorty. Need to sort ourselves our before we help others which is our main problem.

Well, if everyone had that attitude, they'd never get any help.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Well, if everyone had that attitude, they'd never get any help.

Luckily everyone doesn't then

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by InOne

Luckily everyone doesn't then

Indeed

[InOne]

But I'm not going to be made to feel guilty for wanting to help my own country before Africa, they get loads of aid and money. I know it's not enough but doesn't mean we can't try do ourselves some good here instead of trying to look like heroes everywhere else.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by InOne

But I'm not going to be made to feel guilty for wanting to help my own country before Africa, they get loads of aid and money. I know it's not enough but doesn't mean we can't try do ourselves some good here instead of trying to look like heroes everywhere else.

People choose which causes to support. It'd be a nightmare scenario of everyone decided to support foreign charities and ignore those at home. I don't think anyone's trying to make you feel guilty.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

People choose which causes to support. It'd be a nightmare scenario of everyone decided to support foreign charities and ignore those at home. I don't think anyone's trying to make you feel guilty.

except me









JK

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

except me









JK

LOL... well, obviously except you. That goes without saying....

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Livia

Most of them can't be bothered eating? Do you think elderly people are a different species? Most of the elderly people who starve to death, do so in care homes while being charged thousands of pounds a month to be looked after.

Therein lies a whole new issue and as you point out, in care homes the elderly are not only often malnourished but abused as well.
The care home system at present leaves most of them free to do as they please, you are correct,what happens in some care homes against elderly,vulnerable people is horrific too.

[jaybitches]

No i would not give them my days wage. The white man has been over thr teaching them how to build wells and that for years now. Someone should go "Right we will take it from here." But know they sit back and let us do all the work

[bananarama]

Originally Posted by Livia

Well... it's shocking! And care home owners make a fortune from elderly people and their families, yet pay their care workers minimum wage.

I realise it's a different topic... but it does happen to people who are powerless, wherever they live.

Also I think it's more probable that the starvation will take place in hospitals with nurses to busy to ensure sick people who need help feeding are fed properly.

I have seen for myself a blind woman given a fish meal full of tiny bones she could easily choke on. She was helped by my mother who was also a patient but lucky enough to be able to help her.

Meals are served in hospitals but not enough attention paid to see if the patience have eaten enough.

[InOne]

After seeing the riots sod the little scrotes over here, they africans can have it