[Marc]

It's a crime that women like this are not sterilised at the first sign of stupidity.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Sorry to hear that, stories like this must be really maddening for you.

Thanks. Definitely infuriates me, it's the unbelievable selfishness that gets me the most. How they think it's perfectly fine to take what they want as they please without contributing anything to the community.

Especially in the current climate when people are losing their jobs and homes that they worked so hard for in their lives.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

And there we have what? You actually want your country run by people with private wealth behind them? I thought you were a socialist? It appears not. You're about a socialist as multi-millionaire Tony Blair.

It obviously doesn't take a genius to defraud a DWP that's been haemorraging cash for the whole of Labour's term. They didn't spot it for eight years... but of course, the Tories will be responsible for the whole ten years I'm guessing.

And this is you NOT condoning her actions? LOL... Okay.

Stop misquoting me livia, respond to what i say and not what you want to think i said...I am not a socialist either, please dont label me.
Im in favour of welfare reforms, they are not the issue in discussion though are they?
Its the way the red tops demonise certain groups in an attempt to whip the public into a feeding frenzy of hatred over said group. Its working perfectly.
Once again i DO NOT condone her actions, as your 'LOL ...Okay' suggests you dont believe me .
We have a different view, the difference is i respect you for yours.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Marc

It's a crime that women like this are not sterilised at the first sign of stupidity.

Slightly off topic but what is the title of your dissertation marc?...

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

Thanks. Definitely infuriates me, it's the unbelievable selfishness that gets me the most. How they think it's perfectly fine to take what they want as they please without contributing anything to the community.

Especially in the current climate when people are losing their jobs and homes that they worked so hard for in their lives.

Yeah, I completely agree with that.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by kizzy

Slightly off topic but what is the title of your dissertation marc?...

Neutering for Dummies

[Angus]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

What kind of house was she in? Did no one find it odd that this woman with 10 kids was living in a 2 up 2 down backstreet of Manchester? Ridiculous. My younger brother has cerebral palsy and has struggled for funding on all sorts of equipment, been on endless waiting lists to join groups and care centres and women like this just make it harder for everyone. Scum, she should be hung.

I can imagine this sort of story must absolutely infuriate you - it certainly does me. Your brother, through no fault of his own suffers from a disability for which he requires essential equipment, yet the funding is erratic if not non-existent. However, parasites like this scumbag defraud the system of money they invariably don't actually need, but to which they feel some sort of entitlement. Absolutely disgraceful. The punishments for these sorts of crime need to always be custodial, otherwise where is the deterrent?

[thesheriff443]

a good friend of mine works with children who need special help and special chairs she goes into their homes and some are very well off they could easily afford the chairs but instead wait until the money is available from a grant from the goverment wich can take months rather than pay for it them selfs

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Angus

I can imagine this sort of story must absolutely infuriate you - it certainly does me. Your brother, through no fault of his own suffers from a disability for which he requires essential equipment, yet the funding is erratic if not non-existent. However, parasites like this scumbag defraud the system of money they invariably don't actually need, but to which they feel some sort of entitlement. Absolutely disgraceful. The punishments for these sorts of crime need to always be custodial, otherwise where is the deterrent?

Couldn't agree more. Just that picture of the woman walking free from court astounds me. She should be ashamed of herself but most likely isn't.

People will always try to con the system, and regardless of whether the government is Tory or Labour.

Whilst everyone is trying to stop the steam coming out of their ears on this, how about if you were told that the economy loses far more from rich people dodging personal and business taxes?

Because that's what currently happens.

This woman is in the wrong to do this, no doubt about it, but this is the typical ploy of rags like "The S*n." Demonising the poor is their standard fare. This woman will be prosecuted, but where are the investigations into the rich tax dodgers, funneling their millions to "tax-friendly" places?

[Marc]

Originally Posted by kizzy

Slightly off topic but what is the title of your dissertation marc?...

Something about these vile creatures

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ

People will always try to con the system, and regardless of whether the government is Tory or Labour.

Whilst everyone is trying to stop the steam coming out of their ears on this, how about if you were told that the economy loses far more from rich people dodging personal and business taxes?

Because that's what currently happens.

This woman is in the wrong to do this, no doubt about it, but this is the typical ploy of rags like "The S*n." Demonising the poor, is their standard fare. This woman will be prosecuted, but where are the investigations into the rich tax dodgers, funneling their millions to "tax-friendly" places?

could not agree more!

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

could not agree more!

Then you will be blessed in the next life

[Livia]

Originally Posted by kizzy

Stop misquoting me livia, respond to what i say and not what you want to think i said...I am not a socialist either, please dont label me.
Im in favour of welfare reforms, they are not the issue in discussion though are they?Its the way the red tops demonise certain groups in an attempt to whip the public into a feeding frenzy of hatred over said group. Its working perfectly.
Once again i DO NOT condone her actions, as your 'LOL ...Okay' suggests you dont believe me .
We have a different view, the difference is i respect you for yours.

Neither are MP's expenses.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

Neither are MP's expenses.

Well done, very evasive spend a lot of time in the commons livia?
My point, that has been smokescreened... has been highlighted very well by jesus.

[Niall]

Thats just disgusting.

I have made a breakthrough on the child invention formula.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Marc

It's a crime that women like this are not sterilised at the first sign of stupidity.

Hang on she only has 2 fit kids?
Thats a bit nazi like?


She is a Out Right Stinking Criminal.

[Kizzy]

Hold the front page!

Originally Posted by arista

Hang on she only has 2 fit kids?
Thats a bit nazi like?


She is a Out Right Stinking Criminal.

Arista says children are "fit"
You heard
it here
first

[Livia]

Originally Posted by kizzy

Well done, very evasive spend a lot of time in the commons livia?
My point, that has been smokescreened... has been highlighted very well by jesus.

I spend a fair bit of time in parliament, yes, as well as in the constituency. I wasn't evading your point; you don't seem to have a point, or it's fairly well hidden in amongst the usual anti-tory, duck-house-referenced flaming. It's fair to say that I don't usually agree with JHC's political opinions but he does tend to have a clear point that he sticks to that isn't just "I hate the tories". I know rich people play the system, but that doesn't make it right for people on benefits to cheat the system also. It means they're both wrong.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ

Arista says children are "fit"
You heard
it here
first

Yes the Criminal Mother said they were Disabled,
but that was a Ruse.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

I spend a fair bit of time in parliament, yes, as well as in the constituency. I wasn't evading your point; you don't seem to have a point, or it's fairly well hidden in amongst the usual anti-tory, duck-house-referenced flaming. It's fair to say that I don't usually agree with JHC's political opinions but he does tend to have a clear point that he sticks to that isn't just "I hate the tories". I know rich people play the system, but that doesn't make it right for people on benefits to cheat the system also. It means they're both wrong.

I do have a point, read back through my posts ignore the parts that you feel incensed by and hey presto there it is..
I could say the same of your opinion regarding the underclass...but lets not start tit for tatting.... All those in favour say 'Aye'
It does mean they are both wrong, i agree.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

I spend a fair bit of time in parliament, yes, as well as in the constituency. I wasn't evading your point; you don't seem to have a point, or it's fairly well hidden in amongst the usual anti-tory, duck-house-referenced flaming. It's fair to say that I don't usually agree with JHC's political opinions but he does tend to have a clear point that he sticks to that isn't just "I hate the tories". I know rich people play the system, but that doesn't make it right for people on benefits to cheat the system also. It means they're both wrong.

Exactly, I can't see why that is even being mentioned here tbh, if people don't agree that it's alright for her to do it because some rich people do, why even bring it into the discussion?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Exactly, I can't see why that is even being mentioned here tbh, if people don't agree that it's alright for her to do it because some rich people do, why even bring it into the discussion?

Im confused, why bring what?