[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ

1 in 4 people suffer with depression at some point in their lives. It's an educated guess.

..but they don't commit suicide though..?..

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Ok but she told me her exact name and that she was going to try and kill herself (she never actually said she suffered from depression btw) and also when i went back to her after she did kill herself she said the bit about the horses

That's something that can be left with you, and it could potentially come true up until the last day of your life.

Were you living i Ireland? Would it be such a stretch that a woman in your part of the world enjoyed horses?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ

That's something that can be left with you, and it could potentially come true up until the last day of your life.

Were you living i Ireland? Would it be such a stretch that a woman in your part of the world enjoyed horses?

Strange is it may sound we all don't own horses and ride around the place on them She was my only friend who'd even sat on a horse at all I'd say, I was from the city, horses weren't a common thing for me or my friends But this one friend, who's name she got right had moved from the city and owned a horse and worked with horses so yeah imo it was a bit of a stretch

Originally Posted by Ammi

..but they don't commit suicide though..?..

It's left open. She isn't committing to anything by saying that. I'm sure there were probably at least 10 more predictions she made that Niamh has no memory of.

[Roy Mars III]

People should watch that Bull**** episode that Penn and Teller did on fortune tellers

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ

It's left open. She isn't committing to anything by saying that. I'm sure there were probably at least 10 more predictions she made that Niamh has no memory of.

..hmm. yeah but she didn't leavi it open by naming her though and Niamh would remember if she had given that name to her...mine was similar in that one of the things I was told was about a death and they were also named and also the month he died..?...there were other things as well but they're quite personal....

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Strange is it may sound we all don't own horses and ride around the place on them She was my only friend who'd even sat on a horse at all I'd say, I was from the city, horses weren't a common thing for me or my friends But this one friend, who's name she got right had moved from the city and owned a horse and worked with horses so yeah imo it was a bit of a stretch

That's shattered my illusion of Oirish people!!

I can't put myself in your experience, so I can't explain it fully, but I can guarantee you that your memory isn't being honest with you about the whole experience. I have no doubts she gave you the name, the condition, and the awful ending, but I also have no question in my mind that she would have made loads of other predictions too.

Of course you remember that one hit, because it was so specific, but if you see the future you should guess everything right.

[King Gizzard]

Load of crap

Always find it funny when people believe in these and horoscopes but then firmly don't believe in religion

Originally Posted by Ammi

..hmm. yeah but she didn't leavi it open by naming her though and Niamh would remember if she had given that name to her...mine was similar in that one of the things I was told was about a death and they were also named and also the month he died..?...there were other things as well but they're quite personal....

You can't say how that conversation played out. Was it done in in a Ludo reveal kind of way?

Person x, depression, suicide.

Or was it something like:

You have a friend called Rusty Lee

(Niamh nods, or looks up to recognise the name)

well this is going to happen.

That is completely open, and until Niamhs last breath there is a chance that could be true.

Dates are really easy to get round to cold readers. Firstly you have an instant 1 in 12 chance of being correct to begin with. If you're wrong then they will often change it.

Well that's when they first became ill, someone close to them died in that month - they're with them now everything is great.

It's all linguistics.

[Lee.]

Jesus, what about talking about people that have died, or the past in general as opposed to predicting the future. That can't be guesswork surely?

Originally Posted by Lee.

Jesus, what about talking about people that have died, or the past in general as opposed to predicting the future. That can't be guesswork surely?

Give me an example.

[Vicky.]

No. Then again the only one I have ever seen..I went in for a laugh, and I got it. She told me all about my gorgeous 3 children, a newborn, a 3 year old and 5/6 year old. She told me about my tall handsome partner who I will be with forever. And about my 'best friend'...

She had clearly been watching me walking round the fair..as I was with gav, his kids, and their mother. Somehow these became my kids and my best friend.

[King Gizzard]

Plants in the audience

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ

You can't say how that conversation played out. Was it done in in a Ludo reveal kind of way?

Person x, depression, suicide.

Or was it something like:

You have a friend called Rusty Lee

(Niamh nods, or looks up to recognise the name)

well this is going to happen.

That is completely open, and until Niamhs last breath there is a chance that could be true.

Dates are really easy to get round to cold readers. Firstly you have an instant 1 in 12 chance of being correct to begin with. If you're wrong then they will often change it.

Well that's when they first became ill, someone close to them died in that month - they're with them now everything is great.

It's all linguistics.

..hmmm, yeah it is all possible and I'm sure it's what often happens...but it wasn't like that for me, she spoke really quickly and was looking at her tarot cards in her hand the whole time..she didn't look up to make eye contact with me..in fact she did say at the beginning that she didn't need me to acknowledge anything..and I didn't...

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Suze

I remember someone telling me once, that when people are queueing to go in to readings in halls or chatting whilst waiting, that scouts are sent amongst them to pick up on snippets of convos that may help in readings. I don't know how true that is or not, but it does sound feasible to me.

..this is the video I meant Suze...

Youtube video

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..this is the video I meant Suze...

Youtube video

Good vid.

I love how everyone in that vid wants to believe. Thats how con men do so well.

[Legend killer]

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Good vid.

I love how everyone in that vid wants to believe. Thats how con men do so well.

..yeah, I do believe that but I still believe something about the one that I saw lol..it was just too spooky....

[Suze]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..this is the video I meant Suze...

Youtube video

Thanks Ammi. I'll watch it on my other computer later, as I can't get sound on this one.

EDIT: Clicked it anyway and see I don't need sound as it has subtitles.

[Ammi]

..yeah, it's all subtitled Suze..I think it's more about identity fraud and just showing how easy it is to get information from people....

[Livia]

I've seen a couple of Derren Brown's shows on telly and my brother saw one of his shows live. He's amazing... how he pulls out such personal and specific stuff about people is truly freaky. But he makes it very clear all the way through that it's entertainment, that he has no psychic powers at all and that he's extremely sceptical of those who do claim those powers.

Originally Posted by Suze

Thanks Ammi. I'll watch it on my other computer later, as I can't get sound on this one.

EDIT: Clicked it anyway and see I don't need sound as it has subtitles.

Be quicker to get the other computer than learn to read!

[AnnieK]

My grandad told me before he died if there was anyway to get through afterwards he would. I spent the first 6 months after he died expecting him sat on the end of my bed in the middle of the night. He never came. My mum can smell him from time to time though. I am very sceptical about mediums, the ones who put the shows on in halls particularly. My cousin goes regularly to see someone who doesn't charge and she has told her some pretty remarkable things that are true, things that happened when we were kids that she wouldn't have known but she says my nan comes through to her.

Any believers should watch this whole programme, but at worst from 36mins till the end of the show.

http://www.channel4.com/programmes/d...ls/4od#2921957

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ

Give me an example.

Well first of all, why not try and tell me what my dads name was and how he died