[Ammi]

Originally Posted by GypsyGoth

By the way the truth, you do realise that modern feminism would be in favour of there being more male teachers. So it's pretty absurd that you mistakenly believe it's somehow at fault here.

..I haven't got time atm to read through this thread so I'll try to do that later but I will agree with Claudia...in Primary Schools especially, there are very few male teachers...and the reason for that is because very few males want to teach at primary school level..that is a shame and it is improving a little..mainly because the age groups of a lot of primary schools is expanding to include older children with the 'two tier system' ..this means that there will be more male teachers in the lower Keystage groups ...but they still prefer not to teach the younger ones...Reception, years 1, 2 and even 3...this is a choice of male teachers themselves and their personal preference and the ones I have spoken to, which is quite a few, make this choice because they find it difficult to relate to very young children and very frustrating because of a more immature understanding....


...fortunately, we have many, many extremely experienced and willing female primary school teachers which compensate for this and the male teachers are also extremely effective and experienced with the age group they teach....

[Livia]

Originally Posted by GypsyGoth

By the way the truth, you do realise that modern feminism would be in favour of there being more male teachers. So it's pretty absurd that you mistakenly believe it's somehow at fault here.

Agree with this 100%.

[Kizzy]

Is it a coincidence that the numbers of male teachers fell when it became illegal to pull down boys pants and hit them with sticks?....Discuss

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Snow Angel

Is it a coincidence that the numbers of male teachers fell when it became illegal to pull down boys pants and hit them with sticks?....Discuss

another non contribution...shameful

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by the truth

as always you ignore the massive issue at hand and dwell on the trivial irrelevances....kind of implies you just don't care about kids education

BIB - Sums up every "argument" you ever make.

Originally Posted by Snow Angel

Is it a coincidence that the numbers of male teachers fell when it became illegal to pull down boys pants and hit them with sticks?....Discuss

[the truth]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

BIB - Sums up every "argument" you ever make.

hypocrite....the collapse of our kids education, the even greater collapse of male and boys education too, the massive rise in male suicides etc may be trivial to you., I consider it very import. shame on you

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by the truth

hypocrite....the collapse of our kids education, the even greater collapse of male and boys education too, the massive rise in male suicides etc may be trivial to you., I consider it very import. shame on you

a) I'd like you to point out in what way I am a "hypocrite"?

b) You're seriously blaming male suicides on the fact they had female teachers? Do you actually read the crap you are typing?

What about female suicides, do we ignore them? Are they trivial to you? Are male teachers to blame for that?

[Kizzy]

It's just as plausible as your 'different brain' theory...

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Snow Angel

It's just as plausible as your 'different brain' theory...

its not my theory its scientific theory and fact
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-25198063
educate yourself before spouting that nonsense again
Im providing facts and evidence youre not

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by the truth

its not my theory its scientific theory and fact
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-25198063
educate yourself before spouting that nonsense again
Im providing facts and evidence youre not

Get all your facts from the BBC do you, I bow to your cerebral superiority.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Snow Angel

Get all your facts from the BBC do you, I bow to your cerebral superiority.

the facts come from the university of pennsylvannia..try reading before spouting more petty irrelevant bilge

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by the truth

the facts come from the university of pennsylvannia..try reading before spouting more petty irrelevant bilge

I've read enough on the right/left hemisphere dominance and how they are attributed to male and female gender stereotypes to know this is a crock.

[Kizzy]

the attainment differences are due to socialisation and peer pressure in part.
There is an argument for the benefit of a positive male role model where none exist however.
Why do you feel teaching is not as attractive to men any longer truth?

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Snow Angel

the attainment differences are due to socialisation and peer pressure in part.
There is an argument for the benefit of a positive male role model where none exist however.
Why do you feel teaching is not as attractive to men any longer truth?

The problem is that whatever the reasons , probably its a side effect of feminism that tests , competition, sats and areas such as spatial processing and sensori-motor speed have become less part of the syllabus. maleness itself has been devalued and its damaging our kids...we do of course teach our kids male hate with over simplistic feministic biased revisionary versions of history... no wonder theres so much male hate..it starts at nursery school and at primary schools...where it needs to be addressed and rectified to make it more appealing to male teachers.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by the truth

The problem is that whatever the reasons , probably its a side effect of feminism that tests , competition, sats and areas such as spatial processing and sensori-motor speed have become less part of the syllabus. maleness itself has been devalued and its damaging our kids...we do of course teach our kids male hate with over simplistic feministic biased revisionary versions of history... no wonder theres so much male hate..it starts at nursery school and at primary schools...where it needs to be addressed and rectified to make it more appealing to male teachers.

Wrong spatial processing is evident in maths when dealing with shape, technical drawing and weighing/measuring.
Motor skills are used in ball games, handwriting, playing lnstruments....
History is mostly the war and the tudors, Henry was a real feminist he loved women.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Snow Angel

Wrong spacial processing is evident in maths when dealing with shape, technical drawing and weighing/measuring.
Motor skills are used in ball games, handwriting, playing lnstruments....
History is mostly the war and the tudors, Henry was a real feminist he loved women.

there are less maths tests, less exams, sats scrapped too
incidentally men are generally better at those things on average than women and yet you and other posters claim it doesn't matter there are only 12% male primary teachers? that males don't bring their own unique skills and experiences , that having a more balanced gender mix creates a more balanced education for the kids....yet the same posters would argue that we must have more women in other professions where theyre outnumbered by men? including the boardrooms? total complete and utter hypocrisy and double standards. proves those who make that case are unfair, have an agenda and are basically being dishonest

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by the truth

there are less maths tests, less exams, sats scrapped too
incidentally men are generally better at those things on average than women and yet you and other posters claim it doesn't matter there are only 12% male primary teachers? that males don't bring their own unique skills and experiences , that having a more balanced gender mix creates a more balanced education for the kids....yet the same posters would argue that we must have more women in other professions where theyre outnumbered by men? including the boardrooms? total complete and utter hypocrisy and double standards. proves those who make that case are unfair, have an agenda and are basically being dishonest

Where have any posters said that? Or is this just wild assumption like usual?

[michael21]

i going to bang all your head together

[Kizzy]

The advent of the literacy and numeracy hours mean kids do more not less than they did.
Boys can only do well in exams if they learn what is being taught that's a fact. They don't do better in exams unless they have retained knowledge, it's not instinctive.
A balance is good yes, however suggesting that students sre failing due to the gender of teachers is not right or fair.
Female teachers achieve the same qualification as their male counterparts, and are equally as competent.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Snow Angel

The advent of the literacy and numeracy hours mean kids do more not less than they did.
Boys can only do well in exams if they learn what is being taught that's a fact. They don't do better in exams unless they have retained knowledge, it's not instinctive.
A balance is good yes, however suggesting that students sre failing due to the gender of teachers is not right or fair.
Female teachers achieve the same qualification as their male counterparts, and are equally as competent.

hypocrisy and lies. its proven fact women are generally better at certain things and men better at others. also both genders clearly have different skills and experiences ...the classroom should reflect society and 88% female doesn't reflect anything. actually under 8yrs the number fo male teachers in the US is 2% we simply don't trust men with kids that age. its totally discriminatory. all men should not be punished for the sins of the tiny tiny minority. on the other hand yourself and many supporters of radical feminism and so called equality demand more female mp's and women in the boardroom, even when its not done democratically or meritocratically with women only elections or female only jobs....total brainless anti-democratic hypocrisy.
these femiinists don't care less about equality for men or the disabled. Theyre hate preaching self serving divisive hypocrites.,,,they don't give a damn about education or fairness...this is why the education system has collapsed.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by the truth

hypocrisy and lies. its proven fact women are generally better at certain things and men better at others. also both genders clearly have different skills and experiences ...the classroom should reflect society and 88% female doesn't reflect anything. actually under 8yrs the number fo male teachers in the US is 2% we simply don't trust men with kids that age. its totally discriminatory. all men should not be punished for the sins of the tiny tiny minority. on the other hand yourself and many supporters of radical feminism and so called equality demand more female mp's and women in the boardroom, even when its not done democratically or meritocratically with women only elections or female only jobs....total brainless anti-democratic hypocrisy.
these femiinists don't care less about equality for men or the disabled. Theyre hate preaching self serving divisive hypocrites.,,,they don't give a damn about education or fairness...this is why the education system has collapsed.

Where are the lies.... What did I lie about?
Where do I say I wanted more women in the boardroom? People should be judged on their merits man or woman.
Both genders are taught the same subjects in primary and have options ( they choose their own subjects) in the higher years... how can that be seen to benefit one gender?
I don't think it's really worth debating this anymore you have a very dim view of every aspect of women in the workplace, you don't have to be a feminist to see that.

[Marsh.]

I'm waiting...

[Alf]

So who's better, Males or Females?

There's only one way to find out.


F-I-I-I-G-H-H-T

[Vicky.]

So no posters have said that then? Thats what I was asking.

And the problem is much more likely to be males not wanting to teach primary school kids, than women being favoured tbh. As I said earlier, schools are crying out for ANY teachers, so doubt blokes are being passed up.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

So no posters have said that then? Thats what I was asking.

And the problem is much more likely to be males not wanting to teach primary school kids, than women being favoured tbh. As I said earlier, schools are crying out for ANY teachers, so doubt blokes are being passed up.

you have zero evidence to back that up. I have the facts 2% and 12% these are the facts. do you think those figures are acceptable? what do you think can be done to improve those figures? Ive made umpteen suggestions, such as changing the environment to suit males too, positive discrimination too....there are also clearly paranoias against men....the double CRB checks should be plenty for them to know if a man has a dodgy past too...feminists fight for getting more oney in all areas they are under represented...shouldn't the same be done for men under represented too? isn't that fair? shouldn't the eqiual opportunity people fight for that too?
ps Ive been accused of being a potential murdrer of women and prostitutes, why haven't you found it in you to be offended by that and told off the poster? or do you pick and choose what you decide to be offended by according to your own agenda? sounds hypocritical and biased much like the feminazi agenda and the couldn't care less attitude about male teachers and role models