[Z]

Originally Posted by MachoPoodle

But that's kind of the point. I don't want to have sex with 5 people in one night, and personally I'm quite reserved and not likely to have casual sex as it's not my thing. But that is my choice, and I don't believe in judging people just because they don't have the same personal attitude towards it or because I don't understand why/how anyone would/could so called "sleep around". Just like I don't think anyone should judge me because of my choice, whether they understand it or not. Why does it have to make sense to anyone else than those involved?

I think for me it's not about judging people because they're doing something I wouldn't, rather it feels wrong to hear about people doing that because I think it goes against nature to have more than one sexual partner in a night... if that makes sense? I wouldn't judge someone for having sex five times in a night with one person; it's the requiring multiple different partners bit that gets me, that doesn't strike me as empowering, that comes across as a self esteem issue to me. Empowering would be having sex as often as you like with someone who has your sex drive; not using five people to fulfill your sexual appetite. Am I making any sense? I don't know... I don't like to think I'm being judgmental but maybe I am...

[Mystic Mock]

All I can say is if 5 hot girls came after me wanting to have sex I would take it lol. But what's unfair here is if I did do that I wouldn't get any attack for it than if a woman had sex with 5 guys, it's not fair and if it's not socially acceptable for one gender to do that then it has to be the same for the other gender too.

[Im_Juz_ChiLLin]

Is it a coincedence that there are 5 supporting dappy?

[Im_Juz_ChiLLin]

Poll Update : Tibb is Team Luisa by huge Margin !!!

[Jords]

Luisa is right.

Although Id say if a man or woman you need to sort it out.

[Z]

I haven't voted in the poll because I think the argument that transpired made Luisa look awful and while Dappy didn't come out of it much better than her, he did at least make some good points; and I feel that the poll somehow condones either of their actions... but yeah, Luisa and Jasmine are correct, Dappy is ignorant.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Jack_

What Dappy was saying is sexist, misogynistic drivel and anyone that agrees with him quite frankly needs to seriously evaluate their world view because that's just hypocritical nonsense. All about the 'lad' VS 'slut' culture, it's just sad. And to hear women agreeing with him is the most saddening thing of it all for me, it just goes to show how so many of them fall victims to such an oppressive and sexist belief and culture system that's constantly perpetuated throughout the media and society.

On a separate note however I'd also like to point out that I've never...really...properly understood anyone's issue with consenting single adults that are sexually promiscuous? Like, why is it important or anyone else's business but their own? I couldn't give a sh*t what people do in their free time or how many times they do it to be quite honest, so long as the people involved are all consenting, of age and are all single (I accept that it becomes an issue when people are cheating)...what exactly is the problem here? I'm not saying that everyone has to engage in that kind of behaviour, for some sex is regarded as something about love and to be with someone you feel close to, and I accept that, but I really have never understood the massive deals people make about people sleeping around when they're single and people are consenting? For many people it's just sex, who really cares? Having terms like 'sluts' and '*****s' and 'slappers' (notice there's barely any of these kind of words for men also) bandied about so often in society is really quite depressing IMO, is what other people do in that aspect of their life really that important to anyone else but those people? There's much more pressing issues on this planet and in my life that I'd rather be focusing my attention on quite frankly.

..I agree with you, Jack in that if someone is free and single and also open and honest about it..(in that they're not leading anyone on to think it's something more than sex etc..)..then it really is up to them what they do and that's regardless of gender...I don't think it's what is perceived as the 'norm' in society and that's why Jasmine was right when she said it's opinion/subjective and I think it is the sort of thing that will spark strong opinions..?..but gender shouldn't come into it...but in the argument as such, for me there isn't a 'side' because they were both as bad as each other from what I could see in that Luisa was wrong and totally out of order to comment on what Dappy's mother would think and he had a right to be angry about that..but then he countered that by making similar comments about Luisa's daughter and what she would think of her mum...two wrongs etc and they both behaved really badly in that whole argument imo...

[thesheriff443]

both did them selves no favors with the argument.
men want sex and are happy to get it, if a woman wants it, but these women are someone else's sister or mother, and men don't like to think that its their sister or mother having sex.

[BBUKAUSFAN]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

both did them selves no favors with the argument.
men want sex and are happy to get it, if a woman wants it, but these women are someone else's sister or mother, and men don't like to think that its their sister or mother having sex.

your basically saying woman can only have sex if a man allows them to?

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by BBUKAUSFAN

your basically saying woman can only have sex if a man allows them to?

of course im not

[Semtex]

I'm with Louisa on that, even though Dobby got an A* in English init.

[Northern Monkey]

I think the main difference is that....women get pregnant for a start,It may not be fair but that's life and nature.A woman sleeps with 5 men in a night and gets pregnant,She has no clue who the father is and who should help her raise her child and also the child no clue who his dad is.Nature is sexist in that respect.It is worse for a woman than a man,Sorry but that's the truth,Women have to be responsible for their own bodies,As do men but men don't get pregnant.EQUALITY SHOULD'NT OVERIDE COMMON SENSE.

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

Agree with Luisa (and not just because she is my fave), it is sexist.

Literally was going to type this, people need to forget who their faves are and look at the actualy argument in hand.

[Kyle]

Originally Posted by Jemal

you know what.. I was gonna keep quiet cause theres alot of over sensitive people on this forum.

But for god sake? 5 men in one night? Where im from thats disgusting, and im not sexist before anyone tries to kill theirselves over it.
Also men are pigs if they do 5 women in one night.

Its just vom. And tbh if a girl is known as a slag for that then so be it. Because thats disgusting. Full stop.

Scream isnt sexist hes just speaking the truth imo.

I'd love to know how many men could manage to get 5 women in one night without paying for it or being famous (and that's considering his tackle is up for the business)

On the flip side I reckon 99% of women could find 5 consenting males to have sex with if she so wished.

[Pete.]

Luisa won this hands down - Dappy showed himself up for what he is

[coolface]

doesn't matter if it's a man or a woman, it's gross either way

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by EyeballPaul

I think the main difference is that....women get pregnant for a start,It may not be fair but that's life and nature.A woman sleeps with 5 men in a night and gets pregnant,She has no clue who the father is and who should help her raise her child and also the child no clue who his dad is.Nature is sexist in that respect.It is worse for a woman than a man,Sorry but that's the truth,Women have to be responsible for their own bodies,As do men but men don't get pregnant.EQUALITY SHOULD'NT OVERIDE COMMON SENSE.

Not if she's on the pill and using protection.

Therefor she can have as much sex as fellas.

[wendywillow]

I think the main difference is that....women get pregnant for a start,It may not be fair but that's life and nature.A woman sleeps with 5 men in a night and gets pregnant,She has no clue who the father is and who should help her raise her child and also the child no clue who his dad is.Nature is sexist in that respect.It is worse for a woman than a man,Sorry but that's the truth,Women have to be responsible for their own bodies,As do men but men don't get pregnant.EQUALITY SHOULD'NT OVERIDE COMMON SENSE.

and if its the man doing it he would be impregging (new word) 5 women and have no way to support all of them.

[Livia]

I think that Dappy (who I am definitely not a fan of) said, if a man sleeps with 5 women in one night, he's a pig, and if a woman sleeps with 5 men in one night she's a slut. I agree with that.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by Livia

I think that Dappy (who I am definitely not a fan of) said, if a man sleeps with 5 women in one night, he's a pig, and if a woman sleeps with 5 men in one night she's a slut. I agree with that.

He eventually said that, after backtracking considerably.

Initially his opinion was that the man was 'cool' for sleeping with 5 women and a woman doing the same would be a *****.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by MrWong

He eventually said that, after back chatting considerably.

Initially his opinion was that the man was 'cool' for sleeping with 5 women and a woman doing the same would be a *****.

I don't recall hearing that. If that's what he said initially, then he's even more of an idiot that I initially took him for. They're both idiots, actually... and Luisa was very wrong to drag Dappy's mother into the argument to score a cheap point.

[MeMyselfAndI]

Yeah he said 'cool' & Luisa & Jasmine were not happy, he later backtracked & said Pig.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by MeMyselfAndI

Yeah he said 'cool' & Luisa & Jasmine were not happy, he later backtracked & said Pig.

He also lied and made out he'd said pig all along.

[Stevep]

I can't believe there have been 97 replies to this thread, 1 reply should have sufficed, Dappy is wrong.

You cannot claim that when a woman sleeps with 5 men she is a slut and when a bloke does sleeps with 5 women it does not equate to the same thing.

[Kazanne]

I know that it should be the same for men as it is women,why anyone would want to have sex with 5 different people in one night is beyond me but I guess it happens the thing with me that makes the deed different for men and women is for men it's all external with women it seems more 'wrong'(for want of a better word) as it all takes place internally which for some reason seems more intimate and to get different sperm in there all the time could be seen as dirty,lol I bet I've worded that wrong but hope you see what I mean,a woman is usually thought of as more particular than a man,but from what we are seeing,perhaps not,lol.