[Spoon]

What happened to Helen being on her last warning? Eject her!

[Kizzy]

Why even show it on the highlights then if they're bothered about how it'll be perceived by the viewers?
I tell you how it was perceived... as a damn double standard as nada happened to ashleigh following the threats she made to christopher.

[fitz2k2]

I bet if anyone in that house had same warning they would be out.There only keep Helen for ratings and that's it

[the truth]

ashleigh is also a pretty nasty aggressive person too....if BB grew some and kicked that idiot helen out we could actually get to know the others and id bet ashleigh would be exposed as the next nastiest housemate....as it stands she is going to win ,merely because she argued with helen. not because shes a hero, but because shes argumentative and bitchy herself

[GypsyGoth]

Helen felt betrayed, she reacted harshly with her words and her words in anger got her a warning, I don't think it's that big a deal. Also later when confronted with them, she showed remorse.

I do hope that Ashleigh & Helen patch things up as there is not long left in the show

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by GypsyGoth

Helen felt betrayed, she reacted harshly with her words and her words in anger got her a warning, I don't think it's that big a deal. Also later when confronted with them, she showed remorse.

I do hope that Ashleigh & Helen patch things up as there is not long left in the show

..I don't think they'll patch things up as become genuine friends or have much understanding for each other as such because I just think each sees too much negative in the other for that to happen but I think they'll just try to keep the status quo again and make theirs and everyone else's time a bit better ..(although I think some housemates might want more clashes....)...that's why the 'bitching/and two faced' stuff is annoying as well because there are times when you would just have to do that in such a claustrophobic and forced environment and kind of remember that the BB house isn't 'real life' and it's more a 'survival and self preservation' place...

[GypsyGoth]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..I don't think they'll patch things up as become genuine friends or have much understanding for each other as such because I just think each sees too much negative in the other for that to happen but I think they'll just try to keep the status quo again and make theirs and everyone else's time a bit better ..(although I think some housemates might want more clashes....)...that's why the 'bitching/and two faced' stuff is annoying as well because there are times when you would just have to do that in such a claustrophobic and forced environment and kind of remember that the BB house isn't 'real life' and it's more a 'survival and self preservation' place...

Very true, also I could see BB playing past comments to Helen that Ashleigh made or vise versa. If they did become good friends.

And yea I was really disappointing with Winston the way he wanted Helen to go have an argument and his logic behind it was that she wasn't going to win the show anyway, so why be nice?? It must be the money making him so.

And I guess that is one of the main stumbling blocks for them and their relationships in there at the moment, they all would love to see the others mess up and ruin their chances of winning.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by GypsyGoth

Very true, also I could see BB playing past comments to Helen that Ashleigh made or vise versa. If they did become good friends.

And yea I was really disappointing with Winston the way he wanted Helen to go have an argument and his logic behind it was that she wasn't going to win the show anyway, so why be nice?? It must be the money making him so.

And I guess that is one of the main stumbling blocks for them and their relationships in there at the moment, they all would love to see the others mess up and ruin their chances of winning.

..it kind of makes you wonder though that we haven't seen a huge amount of Winston in the HL and then they're showing what would be seen in a bad light so is it just the money or could there have been stuff in the past that he likes to stir things/people up and we just weren't shown..?..like has he been that quiet and taken a back seat for weeks and then the 'sight' of the money suddenly perks him up..?....hmmmmm..that would seem quite odd to me as well/not impossible obviously but just doesn't sit right....and you're right, I can see more Ashleigh or Helen conversations played to them before the end...

[Cold Sweat]

Helen gets a warning.

Ashleigh detractors are up in arms.

LOL

[bots]

I'm another Helen supporter that does not excuse Helen's behaviour in any way. But, lets be clear, the hm's know that Helen has anger issues and that she has a short fuse and they are quite clearly playing on that as the final looms. Yes, Helen flies of the handle and speaks before she thinks, but the hm's have been putting in snide comments designed to wind her up, Winston was goading her into that argument with Ashleigh and Chris. Helen's "friends" encourage her to behave that way and then stand back and laugh as it all kicks off

[delta]

Non of these housemates are playing a game, what you see is what you get.

Ashiegh comes across as one of the most sickliest housemates ever to grace the BB domain.


There is nothing positive about her it's all negative, she is the sort that sucks the life out of you, all she can do is finger point and criticise, she's in her element when she is dissecting other people's behaviour and what better than when someone else comes to her with an observation then let the cat fest begin.


Shove her out front and tell her to entertain and she's fcuked. Did you see her in the money task where they were supposed to drink that horrible concoction through a tube, she never once made an effort and I noticed the camera kept well away from her.

Admittedly, non of them were really covered in glory on that one, but that isn't an isolated incident- any time she's shoved out front she balks and folds.


All she wants to do is CRITICISE- that gives her and Chris le raison de etre.


Worst kind of human beings to grace this planet.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by delta

There is nothing positive about her it's all negative


All she wants to do is CRITICISE


Worst kind of human beings to grace this planet.

Irony alert?

[RockBottom]

Originally Posted by delta

Non of these housemates are playing a game, what you see is what you get.

Ashiegh comes across as one of the most sickliest housemates ever to grace the BB domain.


There is nothing positive about her it's all negative, she is the sort that sucks the life out of you, all she can do is finger point and criticise, she's in her element when she is dissecting other people's behaviour and what better than when someone else comes to her with an observation then let the cat fest begin.


Shove her out front and tell her to entertain and she's fcuked. Did you see her in the money task where they were supposed to drink that horrible concoction through a tube, she never once made an effort and I noticed the camera kept well away from her.

Admittedly, non of them were really covered in glory on that one, but that isn't an isolated incident- any time she's shoved out front she balks and folds.


All she wants to do is CRITICISE- that gives her and Chris le raison de etre.


Worst kind of human beings to grace this planet.

Did you know she gives to animal charities?

[bots]

Originally Posted by RockBottom

Did you know she gives to animal charities?

Oh no, Ashleigh is visiting again

[mizzmee]

Ashleigh probably did get a warning and she probably apologised and she probably apologised to Christopher but we are not shown this.
We are shown Helen's warning to garner sympathy for her as she 'realises the error of her ways'.
I'm sure none of them are saints but I don't think you could imagine Ashleigh actually carrying out her threat. How many times I your life has a friend pissed you off and maybe you've said something like that?
I'm not a fan of any one housemate but I have a feeling that Helen would lash out physically only she is very aware of the cameras.
So if this is a restrained Helen I'd hate to see her without self control.
Any other year, any other housemate, she'd have been long gone.

[mizzmee]

And to actually bring up a different name I say fair play to Winston for trying to advise Helen to go and speak to them rather than let the anger simmer to boiling point. He was dead right, she should have not mouthed off, she should have gone straight up to Ashleigh and Chris told them she heard their conversation and opened her ears for once and realized everything they said was not nasty and they were actually being quite fair.
But Helen hears what she wants because she is dying for, in her head, a valid reason to kick off.

[Niamh.]

Who is to say Ashleigh didn't receive a warning for the Christopher thing anyway btw, apparently Helens received 14 warnings or something, we've only actually been shown a couple

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Who is to say Ashleigh didn't receive a warning for the Christopher thing anyway btw, apparently Helens received 14 warnings or something, we've only actually been shown a couple

The only warnings that have been shown are 2 in week 2, one was for Marlon's sexual comments about Kimberly, the other was for Helen bullying Jale, which was more of a caution than a warning.

In week 3 Helen got a formal warning for threatening behaviour towards Matthew. Was this when she was given a final warning?

Then the warning shown last night.

[dyfed]

These warning have become a utter waste if time,I always thought you were out on your third warning... Are they waiting for someone to get attacked in there,she is like a pressure pot waiting to blow,she has so much aggression.

[Kizzy]

It wasn't a warning was it it was just a chat to make her aware of how her words could be perceived is all.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

It wasn't a warning was it it was just a chat to make her aware of how her words could be perceived is all.

I wonder why it jumped from caution (the Jale bullying) to final warning (the threatening behaviour towards Matthew).

There must have been warnings in between the two that haven't been shown.

[lime]

How do people know Asleigh didn't get a warning.She should of had one btw but I think the first one we seen Helen recieveing was her 15th,so they obviously don't show us all the warnings.

[bots]

Originally Posted by lime

How do people know Asleigh didn't get a warning.She should of had one btw but I think the first one we seen Helen recieveing was her 15th,so they obviously don't show us all the warnings.

Its only formal warnings that are significant, as it is those that will ultimately result in someone being ejected from the house. Any number of hm's could have received unofficial warnings/chats about their behaviour

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by lime

How do people know Asleigh didn't get a warning.She should of had one btw but I think the first one we seen Helen recieveing was her 15th,so they obviously don't show us all the warnings.

I doubt very much she has had 15 !!! no doubt a rumour spread by Mathew who is very bitter towards Helen,and something people who dont like her are happy to hang on to and even add to.

[kefln]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I doubt very much she has had 15 !!! no doubt a rumour spread by Mathew who is very bitter towards Helen,and something pwoplw who dont like her are happy to hang on to and even add to.

Actually...you have no idea how many warning Helen has received, just like everyone else here. You can't dismiss it, as others can't prove it.

All we really know is that Helen was given a formal warning and has been warned yet again, for these two comments:

‘You’re a very bitter, nasty back stabbing little b******d'. You’ve completely transformed, you turned into a p*s*y, the other night and you let Toya take your ******ing back lash...******ing p*ssy, match up to your ******ing description you ******ing weed’.

‘I actually just want to go in and ****ing smash her ****ing head in.’

The reason people don't like her is right there in black and white. It has been there in every confrontation that she has had.

Facts are facts. Helen has been in trouble with BB more often than anyone else in the house. Helen has been in more fights that anyone else in the house. Says it all.