[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by arista

This looked real although as toy

Police told him to drop it


He did not.



In this Case the Police were just doing their job

My son has guns that look like that I can't believe there was no other alternative then to shoot this child dead

[arista]

You have a choice drop you gun
or be shot

That child did the wrong thing , sadly


Its USA Normal Police work

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by arista

You have a choice drop you gun
or be shot

That child did the wrong thing , sadly


Its USA Normal Police work

But he's a child, maybe he panicked? The Police should be trained better to deal with this sort of thing.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

But he's a child, maybe he panicked? The Police should be trained better to deal with this sort of thing.

Yes
but sadly children with guns
have killed Police
in America

[letmein]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes
but sadly children with guns
have killed Police
in America

You live in the US?

[Crimson Dynamo]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/n...-boy/19471925/

this is the call

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/n...-boy/19471925/

this is the call

The caller didn't sound overly concerned or scared though tbf and again, i know I keep repeating myself but a 12 year old playing with a toy gun like that caller described sounds about normal for a kid his age

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

The caller didn't sound overly concerned or scared though tbf and again, i know I keep repeating myself but a 12 year old playing with a toy gun like that caller described sounds about normal for a kid his age

At no time did anyone say he was 12. It was a man and then perhaps a juvenile the caller said.

At no time did the caller (who called the cops mind) say - oh its just kids playing.

This was a gun that looked like a real firearm and not a toy

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

At no time did anyone say he was 12. It was a man and then perhaps a juvenile the caller said.

At no time did the caller (who called the cops mind) say - oh its just kids playing.

This was a gun that looked like a real firearm and not a toy

I've seen the picture of the boy, he looks really young, that article also states that he never pointed the gun at the officers, poor kid was probably trying to show them it wasn't a real gun.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I've seen the picture of the boy, he looks really young, that article also states that he never pointed the gun at the officers, poor kid was probably trying to show them it wasn't a real gun.

You saw probably an old pic of the boy, he may have looked different to the cops. When the cops shouted down he made a move for the gun, cops do not wait until the gun is pointing at them otherwise they would be not many cops left

[Crimson Dynamo]

Did you know the colour of the officer who shot the boy?

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Did you know the colour of the officer who shot the boy?

Why is that relevant?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Jeff Follmer, president of the Cleveland Police Patrolmen's Association, said the officers were not told the caller thought the gun might be fake.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Jeff Follmer, president of the Cleveland Police Patrolmen's Association, said the officers were not told the caller thought the gun might be fake.

But it was clearly stated in the call that the gun might be a fake. That sounds like incompetence to me but no doubt that is justification to you.

[GiRTh]

http://www.ask.com/health/average-he...0d104f73bb0c07

According to Ask.com the average height for a 12 year old boy is 58-62 inches. Barely five foot. The officer must have been ****ting himself.

EDIT - and at that age girls are usually taller than boys./ Would he have been scared if it was girl? Its an absolute joke to say that officer was scared.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

http://www.ask.com/health/average-he...0d104f73bb0c07

According to Ask.com the average height for a 12 year old boy is 58-62 inches. Barely five foot. The officer must have been ****ting himself.

Yes he must have been, the kid had a gun, that the officer thought was real.. it's not the boy that was dangerous, but add the gun into the mix, then he is dangerous.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

Yes he must have been, the kid had a gun, that the officer thought was real.. it's not the boy that was dangerous, but add the gun into the mix, then he is dangerous.

At that age girls are usually taller than boys. Would he have been scared if it was girl? Its an absolute joke to say that officer was scared.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

At that age girls are usually taller than boys. Would he have been scared if it was girl? Its an absolute joke to say that officer was scared.

You seem to be missing the point.. if it was the kid on his own, no the officer or anybody wouldn't have been scared.. but the kid had a - what was thought to be a real - gun, that's what added the danger, so the height of the child is completely irrelevant.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

You seem to be missing the point.. if it was the kid on his own, no the officer or anybody wouldn't have been scared.. but the kid had - what was thought to be - a real gun, that's what added the danger, so the height of the child is completely irrelevant.

It matters that the person was a child. I find it hard to believe that a trained Police officer was afraid of a child to the extent that he felt he had to shoot them. I dont find it believable.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

http://www.ask.com/health/average-he...0d104f73bb0c07

According to Ask.com the average height for a 12 year old boy is 58-62 inches. Barely five foot. The officer must have been ****ting himself.

EDIT - and at that age girls are usually taller than boys./ Would he have been scared if it was girl? Its an absolute joke to say that officer was scared.

averages are made from many different heights



reaching...

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

averages are made from many different heights



reaching...

You accuse me of reaching with all your 'probably' and 'maybe'? Thats laughable.

The gun was not real, the officer was warned but for some reason they are now saying he wasnt, the CHILD was not even a teenager.

[Tom4784]

Rationalising the murder of a child? Some people have no shame.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Rationalising the murder of a child? Some people have no shame.

Dezzy America
is like that

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Rationalising the murder of a child? Some people have no shame.

So the officer should have just been shot by the child because he was just a child about to shoot him?



No, naughty cops, just shoot adults who want to kill you, and only male adults

[Tom4784]

At the end of the day, police officers like the one in this story are using guns as a first resort when they should only be used in life or death situations. They're firing first and asking questions later which is leading to a lot of innocent lives being lost.

If this child murderer was even somewhat competent at his job he would have assessed the situation, not go in guns blazing. Having restraint in this situation wouldn't have led to the officer having a child's blood on their hands. If he can't remain calm and thus calm down a situation without having to kill someone then he shouldn't be a police officer in the first place.