[Jord]

Pleased because he admitted wanting to go first so he would pick up his entire fee. Hopefully he only gets a small percentage of it.

[thinkingoutloud]

Originally Posted by andybigbro

I'm surprised at how close the poll is

Same. I'd love to see the results if Perez had done the same thing.

[Dash Darington]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Who's black in this thread?

If I decide someone is black, then they are black until I decide otherwise.

[Dash Darington]

Originally Posted by Jord

Pleased because he admitted wanting to go first so he would pick up his entire fee. Hopefully he only gets a small percentage of it.

This is very true. They kicked him out to cheat him out of his fee. I hope he sues them.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Dash Darington

If I decide someone is black, then they are black until I decide otherwise.

Cool.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

[Brother Leon]

Not sure. I think he was a define troll in there and it was great to see them over react to absolutely everything, because of how much he was able to wind them up. I honestly felt the whole "Arses" thing was only a big thing, because it was him and not some pretty boy lad instead. His general behaviour warranted it though.

[Ammi]

..BB said that he had made more racist remarks in the morning but we didn't see those..?..unless I missed something...anyway what was a lot more disturbing to me than arsewatchgate was what he kept saying to Chloe over what happened with Jeremy..that she needs to be careful..?..what on earth....

..I think that I'm probably glad that he's gone because now the focus can be taken off his ignorance and we'll get to see the other housemate's characters more...

[Merry Mockmas]

Disappointed as we've now lost two entertaining Housemates back to back due to ejections made by BB.

However Ken did break the rules a little too often, and I think he would've become boring in the end as he was getting really TOWIE by the time he did get ejected.

[Withano]

I don't understand what more he would have had to do for the people who are "disappointed" to see what a vile man he is.

[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by Withano

I don't understand what more he would have had to do for the people who are "disappointed" to see what a vile man he is.

Oh I agree that he was vile, I just wanted him to beat some of the vile bores that we've got in there though.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

Oh I agree that he was vile, I just wanted him to beat some of the vile bores that we've got in there though.

I think I'd question my sanity if I ever start to prefer a sexist racist guy to a boring guy.

[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by Withano

I think I'd question my sanity if I ever start to prefer a sexist racist guy to a boring guy.

Tbf BB is a mix of morality and entertainment (preferably entertainment) for me but I am trying my hardest to blend the two this year.

Anyway my point is would I want to live with Ken over people like Calum, Kavana, Patsy, Alexander, and Alicia? No, but would I rather watch him than most of them names on the list? Yes, would I say that he is more entertaining than all of them on the list? Yes even though I do like Alicia and Alexander.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

Tbf BB is a mix of morality and entertainment (preferably entertainment) for me but I am trying my hardest to blend the two this year.

Anyway my point is would I want to live with Ken over people like Calum, Kavana, Patsy, Alexander, and Alicia? No, but would I rather watch him than most of them names on the list? Yes, would I say that he is more entertaining than all of them on the list? Yes even though I do like Alicia and Alexander.

I think I'd start to question my sanity if I ever started to find a sexist a racist guy more entertaining than a boring guy.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

Tbf BB is a mix of morality and entertainment (preferably entertainment) for me but I am trying my hardest to blend the two this year.

Anyway my point is would I want to live with Ken over people like Calum, Kavana, Patsy, Alexander, and Alicia? No, but would I rather watch him than most of them names on the list? Yes, would I say that he is more entertaining than all of them on the list? Yes even though I do like Alicia and Alexander.

I think you're right though. A mixture of morality and entertainment is a great way to find a winner. If you found Ken's behaviour even an ounce entertaining though, I'd struggle to justify your opinions as anything but disgusting.

[Merry Mockmas]

Tbf if you see my posts around the Forum I am crazy, so don't expect much sanity from me lol.

[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by Withano

I think you're right though. A mixture of morality and entertainment is a great way to find a winner. If you found Ken's behaviour even an ounce entertaining though, I'd struggle to justify your opinions as anything but disgusting.

I couldn't take Ken so seriously as he was clearly acting everything that he was saying, like he'd scripted it out in his head.

His not like someone like Conor BB13 or Dennis BB9 for me who really was truly appalling Human Beings.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

I couldn't take Ken so seriously as he was clearly acting everything that he was saying, like he'd scripted it out in his head.

His not like someone like Conor BB13 or Dennis BB9 for me who really was truly appalling Human Beings.

I just don't understand why these are reasons to warrant being disappointed at him not being in the house. For anybody. So what if you couldn't take him seriously? If he's a slightly better person than possibly the two worse hms of all time?

It comes down to this; if you're entertained by an awful man doing awful things then you really should question the ways you find enjoyment but that's all up to you. The only thing you (and thousands of other people) NEED to understand is: You being entertained is not more important than morality and human rights.

Maybe you just don't understand how big this is but it is a national show which goes outside of your living room. It's not about you.

[rubymoo]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..BB said that he had made more racist remarks in the morning but we didn't see those..?..unless I missed something...anyway what was a lot more disturbing to me than arsewatchgate was what he kept saying to Chloe over what happened with Jeremy..that she needs to be careful..?..what on earth....

..I think that I'm probably glad that he's gone because now the focus can be taken off his ignorance and we'll get to see the other housemate's characters more...

He said the N word again to Keith Chegwin regarding Frank Bruno's music (he referred to his music as N**** rhythyms), BB then called him to the diary room for removal it was right at the end. It's at around 40 mins into the programme

Surprised nobody seems to have mentioned that

[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by Withano

I just don't understand why these are reasons to warrant being disappointed at him not being in the house. For anybody. So what if you couldn't take him seriously? If he's a slightly better person than possibly the two worse hms of all time?

It comes down to this; if you're entertained by an awful man doing awful things then you really should question the ways you find enjoyment but that's all up to you. The only thing you (and thousands of other people) NEED to understand is: You being entertained is not more important than morality and human rights.

Maybe you just don't understand how big this is but it is a national show which goes outside of your living room. It's not about you.

Tbf I haven't complained about Ken's removal, I can understand from BB's perspective that they have to remove him, especially as it's Viacom's first series and they can't afford to have too much controversy going on in the programme.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by rubymoo

He said the N word again to Keith Chegwin regarding Frank Bruno's music (he referred to his music as N**** rhythyms), BB then called him to the diary room for removal it was right at the end. It's at around 40 mins into the programme

Surprised nobody seems to have mentioned that

..tbh I completely missed that Ruby..(thanks btw..)...maybe others did as well which is why it's not been mentioned ..I don't think that he says these things because of his age/not realising that they're offensive etc...I think it's more..I could not care less/I'll do what I want to do and say anyway...just a very silly man...

[rubymoo]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..tbh I completely missed that Ruby..(thanks btw..)...maybe others did as well which is why it's not been mentioned ..I don't think that he says these things because of his age/not realising that they're offensive etc...I think it's more..I could not care less/I'll do what I want to do and say anyway...just a very silly man...

I agree, i genuinely think he thought as the celebrity it was his job to be as vile and disgusting as possible, but i also think there were bits of his personality woven through that act, i'm glad he's out.

[Caballo]

Originally Posted by rubymoo

He said the N word again to Keith Chegwin regarding Frank Bruno's music (he referred to his music as N**** rhythyms), BB then called him to the diary room for removal it was right at the end. It's at around 40 mins into the programme

Surprised nobody seems to have mentioned that

Perhaps nobody has mentioned it because unlike you and the hysterical coven in the house, they're are able to see the context in which the remark was made.

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by andybigbro

I'm surprised at how close the poll is

What are you insinuating about forum members who have voted no?

[user104658]

He had to go really, being old just isn't an excuse for being ignorant, and he just couldn't seem to get his head around what was wrong with affecting a southern US accent and talking about a "nice big fat nheegrooowww" (Alexander was quite clearly offended by this and the pickaninnies comment, he did a very good job of staying calm).

Or referring to "n**** rhythms", or that just because a woman might choose to make money by occasionally showing off her body, she is not automatically fair game for near-constant objectification.

Even when he was booted he looked totally shocked like "but what did I do wrong?"... Even after a previous warning.

So, he would just have continued like that. For his own sake he really needed to go, he would have ended up blundering into saying worse.

However - from a purely selfish perspective - it was excellent car-crash telly and I was really quite enjoying waiting for his next spectacular **** up .