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Jose Mourinho · 13-01-2015, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion

nothing to do with me but, when it was used the way it was, then no..pure and simple.

Take the word ******, are we not to be offended if a black guy says it to another black guy, cause you can watch that on any channel or any internet outlet on a daily basis.

Listen mate.. Alexander got offended by that use of the word. People DO get offended by that use of the word, noone uses that word anymore.. It is deemed offensive you know this, I know this, Ken knows this. We all know this.

Jose Mourinho · 13-01-2015, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by unoino

Yes ...it wasnt said with malice..parts of U.S.A use the term daily..but enough of this crap...Im Irish I get called lots of things daily..in pub..in workplace..even at home...its a laugh..its not malicious....huge difference..you need to get out more..or are you one of those guys who just likes to poke their nose in on forums

Yes, Alexander was most certainly "laughing"

Daniel. · 13-01-2015, 03:27 PM

I really don't understand how people think it's not racist

courses · 13-01-2015, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion

nothing to do with me but, when it was used the way it was, then no..pure and simple.

Take the word ******, are we not to be offended if a black guy says it to another black guy, cause you can watch that on any channel or any internet outlet on a daily basis.

No, we are not to be offended. Black people don't have a history of enslaving black people - it was a word used by white slave owners to insult and dehumanise. Blacks have every right to use the word however they like. I think it takes some of the power out of it you know?

Beso · 13-01-2015, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Jose Mourinho

Listen mate.. Alexander got offended by that use of the word. People DO get offended by that use of the word, noone uses that word anymore.. It is deemed offensive you know this, I know this, Ken knows this. We all know this.

How do you know he was offended, he didn't say as such, infact I think he said the complete opposite, but told ken that others could be offended by it.

unoino · 13-01-2015, 03:30 PM

For your information Im self employed...not that ur being judgemental but I can see where your narrow mindness comes from

rionablue · 13-01-2015, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by unoino

Joke..Chloe the drama queen...Really really went over the top...God I dont think the virgin Mary would have gone to the drama that Chloe did..Running out the room..crying crocodile tears..it worked he got kicked out...labelled a rapist..and has to live with this for the rest of his life...for her part Chloe..wasnt she alone..wasnt he pissed..didnt she have her tits almost in his face...he touched her gown...he didnt swipe it..come on Chloe...you even said the following day it was a misunderstanding...really.....You know my love these anyics happen in pubs clubs discos beaches..every night and day of the week...Yes Jeremy isnt defending himself..he cant..but for gods sake lets put things into proportion...he touched your gown.....

Your posts about Chloe are absolutely HORRENDOUS and totally untrue. if you look at the other posts you may have two or three 'cronies' that don't like Chloe and might suggest she asked for it. I don't know if you are male or female and frankly I don't give a ****. Your posts are totally sickening. Everyone is entitled to post on here and at times we all post stuff that may call people names or stuff that we believe are warranted. We can all even get hotheaded.

But POST AFTER POST AFTER POST you are slamming a 21 year old girl who was trying to help out another housemate as were a few more of the girls also. According to BOTH OF THEM Jeremy opened the girls gown, not just touched it!!!!!!!!!!!!! She did not label him a rapist or anything, she was ENTITLED to be upset and if BB had asked her OUTRIGHT if she wanted him removed I BET you she would have said no that they would talk about the the following morning. BB just removed him before letting the housemates know. I am no shrinking violet in these forums but in all my time contributing there is NOBODYS posts that has made me feel SICK to my stomach than yours.

If this is slating a poster and against the rules SO BE IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jose Mourinho · 13-01-2015, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by unoino

I dont think it is...its not something Id use daily but if its said maliciously then yes id find it offensive..funnily enough I have a few non white friends and they find it farsical.

Alexander sure found it farCIcal. Notice the correct use of the letter c there.

Beso · 13-01-2015, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by courses

No, we are not to be offended. Black people don't have a history of enslaving black people - it was a word used by white slave owners to insult and dehumanise. Blacks have every right to use the word however they like. I think it takes some of the power out of it you know?

thanks, so why shoul;d bb air this then, cause it offends.

unoino · 13-01-2015, 03:39 PM

Cant Alexander speak for himself

Jose Mourinho · 13-01-2015, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion

thanks, so why shoul;d bb air this then, cause it offends.

Why were those words said in the first place? Ken is to blame.

Jose Mourinho · 13-01-2015, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by unoino

Cant Alexander speak for himself

He already did.

unoino · 13-01-2015, 03:41 PM

Well let Alex fight his own battles..weve seen how mob rule dealt with 2 innocent victims

Beso · 13-01-2015, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Jose Mourinho

He already did.

To be fair it was more a slow sort of doped up droll rather than an actual audible interaction.

poppsywoppsy · 13-01-2015, 03:46 PM

I must admit the talk between Alexander and Ken, I thought was more a discussion on what and what isn't allowed. Alex was explaining that Kens terms were unacceptable to black people when referring to them personally and generally.

I then felt Ken was informed of the correct way to speak about black people by Alex and BB didn't really need to offer a warning in a discussion type conversation where he was being educated. If he had deliberately called Alex later in abusive terms the n word, then a warning was necessary.

When he repeated his story about Bruno, he was telling it like it was, there was no abuse, in fact Bruno laughed about it.

I feel Ken then should have another word with Alex and BB to sort it out.

But with all the other stuff going on especially with Nadia goading him to put himself in the wrong, perhaps enough was enough for over sensitive BB who are toeing the PC line.

Jose Mourinho · 13-01-2015, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy

I must admit the talk between Alexander and Ken, I thought was more a discussion on what and what isn't allowed. Alex was explaining that Kens terms were unacceptable to black people when referring to them personally and generally.

I then felt Ken was informed of the correct way to speak about black people by Alex and BB didn't really need to offer a warning in a discussion type conversation where he was being educated. If he had deliberately called Alex later in abusive terms the n word, then a warning was necessary.

When he repeated his story about Bruno, he was telling it like it was, there was no abuse, in fact Bruno laughed about it.

I feel Ken then should have another word with Alex and BB to sort it out.

But with all the other stuff going on especially with Nadia goading him to put himself in the wrong, perhaps enough was enough for over sensitive BB who are toeing the PC line.

Ill agree with one thing here.. Nadia was really goading him. But then again one must think how horrible he has been in that house.

Liam- · 13-01-2015, 03:48 PM

This is still going on?

unoino · 13-01-2015, 03:49 PM

Oh here we go...the bullies getting more support...great example to kids to actually condone bullying...incredible

courses · 13-01-2015, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion

thanks, so why shoul;d bb air this then, cause it offends.

I credit most people with being able to see that it is wrong for him to say it - BB aren't condoning it, as proven by their kicking him out.

Jose Mourinho · 13-01-2015, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by unoino

Oh here we go...the bullies getting more support...great example to kids to actually condone bullying...incredible

Im just trying to put myself in her shoes I dont agree with all her goading which she clearly was doing, but something inside her just did not feel the need to hold back and I wonder why.