[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

So you would not prioritise your human family members over your dog then?

I don't currenly have a dog but speaking hypothetically, no. I wouldn't prioritise a pet over them either. I can't simply choose between those I love.

When my cat was alive, I didn't view her as any less part of the family. Heck, I had a bigger emotional connection to her than to some family members I don't see as much.

Sorry, I just can't come around to the belief than animals matter less. Each to their own, though.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Horrible list,(I could exclude horse racing), however some really cruel and rotten acts committed carrying that list out Kazanne,I agree.

Animals have to live with the disadvantage of living with most dangerous animal on earth Joey,and the cowards have created weapons that animals cannot fight against.

[RichardG]

I can't think of many situations where I'd say an animals life is more important than that of a human. I have nothing against animals and would never wish them any harm but ultimately I reckon humans would almost always have to come first.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by RichardG

I can't think of many situations where I'd say an animals life is more important than that of a human. I have nothing against animals and would never wish them any harm but ultimately I reckon humans would almost always have to come first.

what about a convicted paedophile against a giant panda?

[RichardG]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

what about a convicted paedophile against a giant panda?

Perhaps that would be one of the few situations in which I'd choose the animal. Thankfully the majority of us are better than that.

[Crimson Dynamo]

A puppy or a london unlicensed mini-cab driver?

[Dollface]

Family aside, i'd definitely save my dogs over a stranger
So like, if someone said "I'm gonna kill either your dog or a human you don't know." I'd choose the human I don't know to die

[kirklancaster]

Islamic Jihadists who shoot schoolchildren, behead innocent people and set innocent humans ablaze then laugh as they die screaming, or a scabies infested rat?..... "Oh thank God they saved you Rattie"

Ian Brady and Peter Sutcliffe or a pig?..... "Oh I'm so glad they've saved your bacon Porky."

Nuff said.

[Helen 28]

It's a very difficult decision

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Helen 28

It's a very difficult decision

Not really Helen - One's a scaly beast which preys on anything weaker than itself, and the other's a Crocodile. The Croc gets saved every time.

[Helen 28]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Not really Helen - One's a scaly beast which preys on anything weaker than itself, and the other's a Crocodile. The Croc gets saved every time.

Yes you're quite right, the croc wins.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Helen 28

Yes you're quite right, the croc wins.

[Ramsay]

Originally Posted by Dollface

Family aside, i'd definitely save my dogs over a stranger
So like, if someone said "I'm gonna kill either your dog or a human you don't know." I'd choose the human I don't know to die

This
Even if they were like oh save your mum or 10 random people die. i'd let the randomers die. selfish as **** but i don't think i'd feel bad about it at all

[Northern Monkey]

I'd say as a whole that all life is as valuable as each other,I mean what makes us so special?We are just animals.But i am human so i am biased and i value human life more because of this.Although there are some humans whos life i value much less than an animal.Like ISIS members for example,I value any animal or plants life more than 'people' like that.
Imo there is no definitive answer for this question.Too many variables.

[Kizzy]

If my dog and a stranger were drowning I would run to my dog first.
If it was a strange dog and a human I would run to the human first though.

[jennyjuniper]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

and other animals never kill each other?

They do, but only cats and humans kill for 'fun'.

[jennyjuniper]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

animals kill eachother over who's the alpha male or who gets to shag the female etc etc or they kill the offspring of former alphas etc etc that's quite barbaric

It's even more barbaric to kill because you don't believe the same as someone else, support a different football team etc,. Anyway humans do that too, kill over a female/male, kill their and others offspring. At least in the animal kingdom it's done purely for survival.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by jennyjuniper

They do, but only cats and humans kill for 'fun'.

Cats actually only "seem" to kill for fun, too. They hunt instinctively and would eat anything they kill in a "natural" setting but domestic cats are full of cat food so not necessarily hungry for their prey - but their instincts still tell them to catch and kill.

They do seem to enjoy "playing" with their... Err... Victims? Before the kill though. They sometimes torture them for ages. Yeah, cats are arseholes.

However - unlike humans - they don't do it to other cats.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Cats actually only "seem" to kill for fun, too. They hunt instinctively and would eat anything they kill in a "natural" setting but domestic cats are full of cat food so not necessarily hungry for their prey - but their instincts still tell them to catch and kill.

They do seem to enjoy "playing" with their... Err... Victims? Before the kill though. They sometimes torture them for ages. Yeah, cats are arseholes.

However - unlike humans - they don't do it to other cats.

That is actually a brilliant point which has been overlooked by the rest of us.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Ramsay

This
Even if they were like oh save your mum or 10 random people die. i'd let the randomers die. selfish as **** but i don't think i'd feel bad about it at all

And nor should you feel bad about it - I'd do exactly the same.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

And nor should you feel bad about it - I'd do exactly the same.

Wow, I'm genuinely astonished by that and I actually doubt that if any of you were in a situation where you had to choose a person or your dog, that you would choose the dog. Are you really saying you'd let someone's child die to save your dog? Really?

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Wow, I'm genuinely astonished by that and I actually doubt that if any of you were in a situation where you had to choose a person or your dog, that you would choose the dog. Are you really saying you'd let someone's child die to save your dog? Really?

No, of course not Niamh. I'm referring to Ramsey when he said: "Even if they were like oh save your mum or 10 random people die. i'd let the randomers die. selfish as **** but i don't think i'd feel bad about it at all"

But..... as I went back on his post to copy the above, I noticed that he'd also said; "This" to Dollface's post in which she said that she would choose a stranger to die rather than her dog, so I understand why you think what you do.

I would always save a child rather than any animal, but I wouldn't always save a human over an animal per se, because I'm afraid it would depend on who the human was and what type of human he was.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by jennyjuniper

They do, but only cats and humans kill for 'fun'.

True and even cats don't do it for money!

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

If my dog and a stranger were drowning I would run to my dog first.
If it was a strange dog and a human I would run to the human first though.

Imagine the effect that would have on that person's family and all their friends though, I'd feel incredibly guilt knowing I could have prevented all that grief and saved a person's life but prioritised my pet first. Of course losing a pet would be very hard but the reality is that a human death will affect more people and affect people harder

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Cats actually only "seem" to kill for fun, too. They hunt instinctively and would eat anything they kill in a "natural" setting but domestic cats are full of cat food so not necessarily hungry for their prey - but their instincts still tell them to catch and kill.

They do seem to enjoy "playing" with their... Err... Victims? Before the kill though. They sometimes torture them for ages. Yeah, cats are arseholes.

However - unlike humans - they don't do it to other cats.

Cats do fight each other a lot though and it can often be pretty vicious

[Kizzy]

My dog is my family, he's like an adopted child to me and I have a bond with him.