[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Suze

What a gorgeous photo, and what a beautiful animal - the Leopard or Cheetah that is

This picture is worth a thousand dead animal heads,how proud would you be if you had as picture like this ? how sweet that Leopard or Cheetah is sitting there taking it all in,lol,I don't know what it is either Suze.

[Natalie.]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

This is how REAL men shoot animals

'Zoom in a bit more please Jeffrey' great picture

[arista]

Great Photo Kaz

thanks

[MTVN]

You missed the part where the leopard rips his throat open once it recovers from the doping

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by MTVN

You missed the part where the leopard rips his throat open once it recovers from the doping

Great pic Kaz

[MTVN]

As you can see I am in a very cheerful mood this evening

[Livia]

Originally Posted by MTVN

You missed the part where the leopard rips his throat open once it recovers from the doping

Originally Posted by MTVN

As you can see I am in a very cheerful mood this evening

LOL... MTVN, you grumpus.

[user104658]

It's a cheetah. Probably killed by that dentist and stuffed... H... Hehe...

No in all seriousness, apparently cheetahs are quite easy to tame compared to other big cats. If they're domesticated from birth they're just like big versions of regular cats. But smarter. Regular cats are ****ing stupid.

[kirklancaster]

I have always found 'Trophies' consisting of stuffed animals or wall mounted animal heads macabre and gruesome, and have always wondered just why anyone would want to kill living creatures and display them with such perverted pride.

The evil cretins who believe that it is heroic to slaughter outnumbered wildlife from a safe distance with sophisticated rifles, are as delusional as the evil terrorist bastards who believe they are pleasing 'God' by blowing up unsuspecting victims and/or beheading cowered, bound and outnumbered innocent civilians - and just as cowardly.

These 'hunters' are demented and sick, as are those who see no wrong in it - in my opinion.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

I have always found 'Trophies' consisting of stuffed animals or wall mounted animal heads macabre and gruesome, and have always wondered just why anyone would want to kill living creatures and display them with such perverted pride.

The evil cretins who believe that it is heroic to slaughter outnumbered wildlife from a safe distance with sophisticated rifles, are as delusional as the evil terrorist bastards who believe they are pleasing 'God' by blowing up unsuspecting victims and/or beheading cowered, bound and outnumbered innocent civilians - and just as cowardly.

These 'hunters' are demented and sick, as are those who see no wrong in it - in my opinion.

they are no more sick than any person who eats hamburgers or sausages and fuels the slaughter of millions of cows and pigs.

he's no more evil than a starving african who kills a goat to feed his family.

killing is killing is killing.

[Ammi]

..I don't know if this is true because it hasn't been confirmed/well actually been denied in fact but I'll post anyway...


The brother of Cecil the lion, Jericho, has been shot dead by poachers, the Zimbabwe Conservation Task Force has said.

The organisation wrote on Facebook: "It is with huge disgust and sadness that we have just been informed that Jericho, Cecil's brother, has been killed at 4pm today.

"We are absolutely heartbroken."

However, a researcher monitoring the pride has disputed the claim.

"He looks alive and well to me as far as I can tell," said Brent Stapelkamp, field researcher for the Hwange Lion Research Project which is monitoring the lion with a GPS tag.

It is thought Jericho had been protecting Cecil's cubs.

The murder of 13-year-old Cecil by US dentist Walter Palmer on 1 July caused outrage when it was made public earlier this week.

Mr Palmer allegedly paid park guides $50,000 (£32,000) to kill the lion, who was a hugely popular attraction at the Hwange National Park.

More than 140,000 signatures have been gathered for a bid to send the Minnesota dentist to Zimbabwe to face justice.

The White House has said it will review the petition .

Zimbabwean authorities claim they are seeking extradition.

The county has now suspended the hunting of lions, leopards and elephants in the area while it investigates the killing of another lion in July.

A man from a private game park has been arrested over this case, officials said.




https://uk.news.yahoo.com/cecil-lion...0.html#iScWcbV

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..I don't know if this is true because it hasn't been confirmed/well actually been denied in fact but I'll post anyway...


The brother of Cecil the lion, Jericho, has been shot dead by poachers, the Zimbabwe Conservation Task Force has said.

The organisation wrote on Facebook: "It is with huge disgust and sadness that we have just been informed that Jericho, Cecil's brother, has been killed at 4pm today.

"We are absolutely heartbroken."

However, a researcher monitoring the pride has disputed the claim.

"He looks alive and well to me as far as I can tell," said Brent Stapelkamp, field researcher for the Hwange Lion Research Project which is monitoring the lion with a GPS tag.

It is thought Jericho had been protecting Cecil's cubs.

The murder of 13-year-old Cecil by US dentist Walter Palmer on 1 July caused outrage when it was made public earlier this week.

Mr Palmer allegedly paid park guides $50,000 (£32,000) to kill the lion, who was a hugely popular attraction at the Hwange National Park.

More than 140,000 signatures have been gathered for a bid to send the Minnesota dentist to Zimbabwe to face justice.

The White House has said it will review the petition .

Zimbabwean authorities claim they are seeking extradition.

The county has now suspended the hunting of lions, leopards and elephants in the area while it investigates the killing of another lion in July.

A man from a private game park has been arrested over this case, officials said.



https://uk.news.yahoo.com/cecil-lion...0.html#iScWcbV

I've seen that too Ammi ,it's also worse as Jericho had taken over Cecils cubs hence saving them from death by another high ranking male,so now if this is true,the cubs are again in real danger,I give up with some people ,they will never think that animals are just as entitalled to life as we are.

[user104658]

The only solution now is for the cubs to go and live in the jungle with a boar and a meerkat for a few years, until they are old enough to protect themselves when they return to the pride.

[Kizzy]

Lions only pick on weaker creatures... Are they not top of the food chain? ( if we're unarmed obv)

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Lions only pick on weaker creatures... Are they not top of the food chain? ( if we're unarmed obv)

lions are the king of the jungle, that's my understanding, they are at the top of the food chain, and they hunt weaker animals whenever they like. just like humans do.

i have much more respect for a man that hunts a wild lion than i do a man who eats a hamburger that he didn't have to kill himself, and he just pays a few dollars for someone else to slaughter it in a pen and cut off some meat for him without ever having to get his own hands dirty.

anyone who ate meat this weekend, shame on you! please tell us the name of the animal that died for you to eat it!

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by lostalex

lions are the king of the jungle, that's my understanding, they are at the top of the food chain, and they hunt weaker animals whenever they like. just like humans do.

Male lions in a pride don't hunt,lionesses do that. They don't kill indiscriminately they kill to eat.
They are nothing like humans.

[Tom4784]

There's a massive difference in killing for food and killing for sport though. It's pretty dumb to compare the two.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

There's a massive difference in killing for food and killing for sport though. It's pretty dumb to compare the two.

i agree there is a massive difference. 1 lion verses millions of cows dying in the same period being ate by the people condemning the killing of the lion.

the millions eating millions of helpless cows for 4 dollars are far more evil than than 1 man paying 50,000 dollars to kill one lion.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by lostalex

i agree there is a massive difference. 1 lion verses millions of cows dying in the same period being ate by the people condemning the killing of the lion.

the millions eating millions of helpless cows for 4 dollars are far more evil than than 1 man paying 50,000 dollars to kill one lion.

Cows are raised for food... Lions aren't :/
There are dwindling numbers of lion hence the huge disparity in their worth to hunters.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Cows are raised for food... Lions aren't :/
There are dwindling numbers of lion hence the huge disparity in their worth to hunters.

To be fair, I don't really understand why that matters. The Cow doesn't think "oh I've been raised as food and there's loads of cows anyway so it's OK that I'm going to die". And I doubt lions have any concept of the fact that they are dwindling, either. These are all human considerations being applied by us. To the individual animals none of this is relevant.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

To be fair, I don't really understand why that matters. The Cow doesn't think "oh I've been raised as food and there's loads of cows anyway so it's OK that I'm going to die". And I doubt lions have any concept of the fact that they are dwindling, either. These are all human considerations being applied by us. To the individual animals none of this is relevant.

yup.

i can't make sense of it.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

To be fair, I don't really understand why that matters. The Cow doesn't think "oh I've been raised as food and there's loads of cows anyway so it's OK that I'm going to die". And I doubt lions have any concept of the fact that they are dwindling, either. These are all human considerations being applied by us. To the individual animals none of this is relevant.

That would be fine if we were considering the personal feelings of both these beasts... we aren't.
One is an endangered wild animal and another a captive bred animal
If the roles were reversed and cows had a high price on their heads for poachers I'm sure they would be offered the same sympathy.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by lostalex

i agree there is a massive difference. 1 lion verses millions of cows dying in the same period being ate by the people condemning the killing of the lion.

the millions eating millions of helpless cows for 4 dollars are far more evil than than 1 man paying 50,000 dollars to kill one lion.

Such silly strawman logic.

The dentist killed an endangered animal, not for sustenance or to put the lion to good use afterwards but for sport. People eating beef is in no way comparable to killing a lion for sport, we're not killing the animals for the fun of it we're doing it for food.

Being a meat eater and condemning the needless death of an endangered animal is not contradictory, you'd need to have an incredibly simplistic outlook to think that it is.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Such silly strawman logic.

The dentist killed an endangered animal, not for sustenance or to put the lion to good use afterwards but for sport. People eating beef is in no way comparable to killing a lion for sport, we're not killing the animals for the fun of it we're doing it for food.

Being a meat eater and condemning the needless death of an endangered animal is not contradictory, you'd need to have an incredibly simplistic outlook to think that it is.

[Kazanne]

Cows sheep pigs.etc are bred for food and should be killed humanely,lions are not food fodder and are not bred as such,farm animals are not shot and hunted for 40 hours ,then hung on someones wall or floor as a trophy,it's not rocket science to see the difference although if I had my way none would be killed,but I would be happy for a human cull,get rid of the vermin.