[LeatherTrumpet]

If Tiff was a man and was white and started calling people you fkg "N" word bastards

then that is disgusting racism and i think she should be evicted immediately


how horrible she, i mean he, is the vile pig

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Everything she did with Scotty and Jeremy was completely consensual, that's the difference between Tiffany and the male HMs that got warnings or kicked out for sexual harassment. Scotty T and Jeremy liked and wanted the night's activities to continue, People like Chloe, Nancy, Joel and others didn't want none of that from the likes of Jeremy, Winston and Aaron. That's the difference.

It's kind of troubling that some people can't seem to tell the difference.

I think it would be a lot more troubling if people didn't discuss these kinds of issues.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

If Tiff was a man and was white and started calling people you fkg "N" word bastards

then that is disgusting racism and i think she should be evicted immediately


how horrible she, i mean he, is the vile pig

I can't read this thread without singing that Beyonce song "If Tiff was a man, even just for one day...

[Vanessa]

Go Tiff and Scotty. Both single and ready to mingle

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Go Tiff and Scotty. Both single and ready to mingle

[Niamh.]

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

[Vanessa]

Crazy Meg

[Withano]

Originally Posted by jaxie

I'm not offended I'm pointing out as per the thread that double standards do come into play for people depending on who is saying it. You are assuming Tiffany is weaker than those she is coming on to and Ken is stronger when actually he's a fairly old guy, how can you know the girls in question couldn't throttle him? I'm a woman and I do think that sometimes there are double standards on behaviour and women can be a cut a lot more slack than men on what is and isn't appropriate. Not a Ken fan, but I thought he was a fairly good comparison. If we are emancipated then that doesn't mean men can't sneeze without being accused of being inappropriate it means we are, or should be equals. By those standards really what Tiffany said in the diary room was as inappropriate as anything Ken said and she should probably be given a warning.

It isn't double standards because you are comparing two different things. Compare it to a 4 foot skinny midget saying it about female wrestlers if you want to swap the genders. Its just not sinister. Its humorous. And everyone bar you and like two other people saw it this way

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by jaxie

I think it would be a lot more troubling if people didn't discuss these kinds of issues.

What ssues? It's just people who dislike Tiffany trying to make her out to be some sex pest praying on Scotty T when he was more than consensual.

There's no issues to speak of when it comes to Tiff's, Jeremy's and Scotty's actions on that night. They all had fun and it was all consensual, nothing more nothing less.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

[Niamh.]

Should Jeremy be ejected for pulling down Scotty ts shorts the same night?

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Should Jeremy be ejected for pulling down Scotty ts shorts the same night?

He has done much worse to him and got away with it. I guess if Scotty complains he will be in trouble.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

What ssues? It's just people who dislike Tiffany trying to make her out to be some sex pest praying on Scotty T when he was more than consensual.

There's no issues to speak of when it comes to Tiff's, Jeremy's and Scotty's actions on that night. They all had fun and it was all consensual, nothing more nothing less.

Tiffany knows that it's best to leave the birds to play with their bushes and enjoy a cock in the hand.

[kirklancaster]

'If Tiff was a man'.......

She'd be whupping Tyson's Fury's ass and taking the belts from him.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

What ssues? It's just people who dislike Tiffany trying to make her out to be some sex pest praying on Scotty T when he was more than consensual.

There's no issues to speak of when it comes to Tiff's, Jeremy's and Scotty's actions on that night. They all had fun and it was all consensual, nothing more nothing less.

I meant about the potential double standards in how people respond to Tiffany saying something in the diary room that is quite inappropriate and someone like Ken. I found it just as sleazy both times.

[White_L10N]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

What ssues? It's just people who dislike Tiffany trying to make her out to be some sex pest praying on Scotty T when he was more than consensual.

There's no issues to speak of when it comes to Tiff's, Jeremy's and Scotty's actions on that night. They all had fun and it was all consensual, nothing more nothing less.

A few people have pointed out Winston is seen as pervy because his advances aren't reciprocated. Darren has said he was uncomfortable with her advances. So it wasn't consensual or acceptable to him. Technically that means Tiff is a perv aswell if we're following the logic here.

It doesn't even matter if its consensual or not. The point of the whole thread is that if she was a man she would be seen as a perv or seedy. Its a double standard. I don't think what Tiff has done is wrong. But in that respect why do we see Winston as wrong. You see what I'm saying..