[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Go to any high street in the UK, pick up a rock and throw it and you'll hit a busker that is as good or better than him. He's just a busker with a record contract and he isn't worthy of any accolades when he's basically an Aldi brand version of Ed Sheeran and we don't need him, never mind his bargain bin clones.

Say what you will about Lily but her music is certainly more memorable and interesting. James Bay is just a one hit wonder who's only gotten as far as he has because the public seem to be obsessed with boring af white guys with guitars and no sense of individuality and a uniform approach to music.

But Lily Allen is just a White Girl With A Guitar?

I agree with you on James Bay being dull, but tbf so is Lily Allen imo who often also talk sings as I like to call it.

And out of interest are you against any white male playing the Guitar? I'm only interested because I know that some people have a weird issue with it even if the act is decent.

[Jake.]

it's annoying as well because it's actually a topic that I really enjoy discussing but it's impossible with the constant "the boy who cried wolf" routine

[MB.]

Adam, if you knew a little about the Brits, you'd know that Lily wouldn't have been eligible in the first place since she hasn't had a top 40 album in the past year (and I don't see why she would have, considering she hasn't released one)

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

But Lily Allen is just a White Girl With A Guitar

...she doesn't play the guitar in her songs

[RichardG]

Why haven't BTS been nominated for best international group that's what I want to know

[Samm]

Originally Posted by Adam.

Your the one saying he doesn't deserve his nomination and it should go to someone who isn't white actually I'm surprised you haven't suggested Lily should be nominated

Why should lily be nominated she didn't release any new music in 2015

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Adam.

He is something that's very rare in British music and that's song writers.

Most of the trash who make the charts these days wouldn't even know how to write a letter let alone a song

RARE?! Are you serious?

You can't swing Ellie Goulding in a Record Company lobby without hitting a multitude of Singer Songwriters. EVERY year there's some boring man with a guitar nominated that's just the same as the boring man with a guitar that was nominated the year before.

James Bay is generic and uninteresting, he is the definition of a cookie cutter artist.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by MB.

Adam, if you knew a little about the Brits, you'd know that Lily wouldn't have been eligible in the first place since she hasn't had a top 40 album in the past year (and I don't see why she would have, considering she hasn't released one)



...she doesn't play the guitar in her songs

On the rare occasions that I've seen her live performances she has an Acoustic Guitar like James Bay often does.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

RARE?! Are you serious?

You can't swing Ellie Goulding in a Record Company lobby without hitting a multitude of Singer Songwriters. EVERY year there's some boring man with a guitar nominated that's just the same as the boring man with a guitar that was nominated the year before.

James Bay is generic and uninteresting, he is the definition of a cookie cutter artist.

The amount of artists who don't write their own songs out weighs those who do by a large amount

[MB.]

Of course, this is all heavily ironic considering boybands such as HomeTown would struggle writing their own names, never mind a song

[MB.]

(or, y'know, One Direction or anybody else nominated of that ilk)

[Samm]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

On the rare occasions that I've seen her live performances she has an Acoustic Guitar like James Bay often does.

Which performances? I've never seen her play a guitar, do you mean a male/female playing a guitar in the background? I wouldn't call that the same

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

But Lily Allen is just a White Girl With A Guitar?

I agree with you on James Bay being dull, but tbf so is Lily Allen imo who often also talk sings as I like to call it.

And out of interest are you against any white male playing the Guitar? I'm only interested because I know that some people have a weird issue with it even if the act is decent.

well I'm pretty sure she doesn't play the guitar in any of her songs but yeah that's besides the point. it's not really about "who's more boring?", it's about the lack of knowledge for diverse artists The Brits carries, and James Bay completely ignored the question and went for a cheap snipe because he's nominated himself

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Adam.

The amount of artists who don't write their own songs out weighs those who do by a large amount

Where's the proof of your claim? Go on. Show me.

[Samm]

Originally Posted by Adam.

The amount of artists who don't write their own songs out weighs those who do by a large amount

Lily writes her own music, if that's the point you're trying to get at

[MB.]

Even if Lily did play the guitar (which... she doesn't), there literally aren't any other women for her to compete with in that market? Yet if you look at the men, you've got James Bay, Ed Sheeran, Jack Garratt, Passenger, Hozier, Jamie Lawson... and that's before you've even left the UK and Ireland/got onto bands

[Black Dagger]

Is Passenger still a thing?

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by _LucasMichael_

Is Passenger still a thing?

nope, thank christ

[MB.]

(not forgetting George Ezra, Jake Bugg, Damien Rice, Tom Odell, Ben Howard...)

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by ~Sam~

Which performances? I've never seen her play a guitar, do you mean a male/female playing a guitar in the background? I wouldn't call that the same

True that a lot of her performances that I've seen are getting helped from background Music with Guitar playing.

Out of interest as I've had nobody answer me yet on it, are some of you just against Guitar players? Because I really like a J-Rock Group called Ling Tosite Sigure, and I'm thinking that if by some weird reality that they did win Best International Act at The Grammys would people just call the lead singer an AGWG? Because I've even seen people like Hozier and George Ezra (who I happen to class as decent) get called boring and WGWG in a negative way just because they dare to play the Guitar.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Jake.

nope, thank christ

Just goes to show that these acts are as manufactored as your typical X Factor winner, they get dropped after one album to make room for the next generic man with a guitar.

[RichardG]

Is the point that people just don't like guitars or is it that people don't like the boring generic "indie" songs that they play with it

Because I thought it was the latter

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

True that a lot of her performances that I've seen are getting helped from background Music with Guitar playing.

Yeah that happens with most music artists, background music.. Or are they supposed to humm the song themselves whilst singing?

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by RichardG

Is the point that people just don't like guitars or is it that people don't like the boring generic "indie" songs that they play with it

Because I thought it was the latter

Indie is never generic.

[MB.]

"White girl with a guitar" =/= "white girl who sat near a guitar once"

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Just goes to show that these acts are as manufactored as your typical X Factor winner, they get dropped after one album to make room for the next generic man with a guitar.

exactly, as I said before it's all generic, BBC Sound of The Year-type crap