[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by StephenPullen

Unfortunately, when you fail to listen to the will of the people, racism and defensiveness will surely rise. The politicians of the UK are the ones to blame for not listening to what the majority of the electorate want - eventually the people are going to take control back and it won't always be politically correct nor what the bleeding heart brigade desire. That's what happens when you take the piss out of ordinary people for far too long. Sad but true.

52% isn't much of a majority though, especially considering 16-17 year olds wasn't allowed to vote either, and a lot of Remain voters thought that we would remain so didn't vote.

If Scotland has to have over 60% to have another Referendum, then shouldn't the Leave campaign have to have over 60% to leave the EU?

48% is a lot of people to piss off, ruin their future careers, their finances, and change how the country is run on them.

Don't forget there is nearly 3 million people so pissed off that they're demanding another Referendum, the majority do not want to leave the EU, it's just that the elderly voted more and scraped a majority which is fair enough, but it's not what people want, and more importantly not what the future generations that are gonna be living in this country for many more years to come want.

[StephenPullen]

Being against uncontrolled immigration is not racism I'm afraid.

[MB.]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

We are all racist to a point no matter how much you say you are not.

I'll let you speak for yourself on that one

Originally Posted by StephenPullen

Being against uncontrolled immigration is not racism I'm afraid.

Telling anyone who isn't white to "go home", however, is

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by MB.

I'll let you speak for yourself on that one



Telling anyone who isn't white to "go home", however, is

What about telling polish people to go home?

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

What about telling polish people to go home?

Of course that is racist.

I've driven round the Andalusian hills and seen graffiti saying “Brits go home”. That was the Spanish being racist towards the Brits.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Of course that is racist.

I've driven round the Andalusian hills and seen graffiti saying “Brits go home”. That was the Spanish being racist towards the Brits.

But the post I was responding too was saying that it is racist to say that to non white people.

What race are poles? If I tell them to go home and I am white, how can that be racism?

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Of course that is racist.

I've driven round the Andalusian hills and seen graffiti saying “Brits go home”. That was the Spanish being racist towards the Brits.

Xenophobic not racist

[StephenPullen]

Originally Posted by MB.

I'll let you speak for yourself on that one



Telling anyone who isn't white to "go home", however, is

Of course it is - but I thought the EU referendum was about uncontrolled European immigration (something that this country cannot cope with). Having a problem with hundreds of thousands of young, jobless, working class men flooding the country when we already have a high unemployment rate is not racist, it's common sense. Anyone who is not concerned about this is either ignorant or deluded.

Applying the racist card to any discussion about uncontrolled immigration is just a short-hand way of shutting down the argument because people on the 'in' side have no opposing positive points. It was applied to UKIP for many years but the British public saw through the arguments and thus votes to leave the EU.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by StephenPullen

Being against uncontrolled immigration is not racism I'm afraid.

No of course its not!
There’s a difference between individual bias and structural racism.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by StephenPullen

Being against uncontrolled immigration is not racism I'm afraid.

If you look at the incidents listed in the OP and think that's okay then it's fairly obvious that you can't tell the difference between racism and taking a stance against immigration and that says it all really.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by StephenPullen

Being against uncontrolled immigration is not racism I'm afraid.

And it's not going to change so why leave the EU?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

And it's not going to change so why leave the EU?

A lot of people who voted out didn't know this, neither did the know that most immigrants come from outside the EU...everyone is availing themselves of the facts after the event I've had to listen to it all day at work

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Cherie

A lot of people who voted out didn't know this, neither did the know that most immigrants come from outside the EU...everyone is availing themselves of the facts after the event I've had to listen to it all day at work

But they was warned nearly every day leading up to this?

[Wizard.]

I do believe the whole "foreigners taking our jobs" is a bunch of BS when I went for a job interview there were some people from other countries and they never got through to the next round and I did...

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Riley95

I do believe the whole "foreigners taking our jobs" is a bunch of BS when I went for a job interview there were some people from other countries and they never got through to the next round and I did...

Thing is, half say the 'foreigners are coming here and stealing our jobs'

Other half say 'foreigners are coming here to steal our benefits and they don't want to work'

It simply cannot be both. This kinda shows a lot of peoples prejudice towards immigrants, they literally can't do right for doing wrong. And I know coming across people with views like this is very common. And I think (again) at least 40-50% of the leave vote was because of this too.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Thing is, half say the 'foreigners are coming here and stealing our jobs'

Other half say 'foreigners are coming here to steal our benefits and they don't want to work'

It simply cannot be both. This kinda shows a lot of peoples prejudice towards immigrants, they literally can't do right for doing wrong. And I know coming across people with views like this is very common. And I think (again) at least 40-50% of the leave vote was because of this too.

We are overpopulated which isn't helping any of us get jobs, so the solution is to have tighter immigration yes, but to stop it all together is imo what makes some people come off as racist in the Leave side.

Imo the Tories need to try and make more jobs for people as well by investing in more projects that people can work on.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Chewy

Bloomberg

So some foreign news agency gets a couple of reports and the headline is racism on the rise]

what a load of fckg bollocks

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

So some foreign news agency gets a couple of reports and the headline is racism on the rise]

what a load of fckg bollocks

Racism is racism, a racist in the UK aren't any less of a racist just because it's worse somewhere else. Bringing other countries into it to make it seem less of a problem here is a foolish move.

A problem is still a problem and the increase in racism is something that must be dealt with.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Racism is racism, a racist in the UK aren't any less of a racist just because it's worse somewhere else. Bringing other countries into it to make it seem less of a problem here is a foolish move.

A problem is still a problem and the increase in racism is something that must be dealt with.

Well then you must deal with it by voting remain. Oh wait...most remainers didn't even bother to vote.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

Well then you must deal with it by voting remain. Oh wait...most remainers didn't even bother to vote.

[Crimson Dynamo]

People need to travel around the world a bit first and then judge the uk as racist


jesus wept

[Vicky.]

Well it seems acceptable to be against 'those immigrants' now doesn't it really...given the huge support for Farage and cos campaign which rested largely on immigration factors.

I am not accusing everyone who voted out of being racist btw, but a LOT of people voted on immigration only. When leave won my facebook feed erupted into a disgusting show of racism...I am about 40 'friends' down tbh as I don't want to see that ****.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Well it seems acceptable to be against 'those immigrants' now doesn't it really...given the huge support for Farage and cos campaign which rested largely on immigration factors.

I am not accusing everyone who voted out of being racist btw, but a LOT of people voted on immigration only. When leave won my facebook feed erupted into a disgusting show of racism...I am about 40 'friends' down tbh as I don't want to see that ****.

Vicky

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Well it seems acceptable to be against 'those immigrants' now doesn't it really...given the huge support for Farage and cos campaign which rested largely on immigration factors.

I am not accusing everyone who voted out of being racist btw, but a LOT of people voted on immigration only. When leave won my facebook feed erupted into a disgusting show of racism...I am about 40 'friends' down tbh as I don't want to see that ****.

Queen.

[Rob!]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Well it seems acceptable to be against 'those immigrants' now doesn't it really...given the huge support for Farage and cos campaign which rested largely on immigration factors.

I am not accusing everyone who voted out of being racist btw, but a LOT of people voted on immigration only. When leave won my facebook feed erupted into a disgusting show of racism...I am about 40 'friends' down tbh as I don't want to see that ****.

Same and the argument I'm currently having on Facebook is going to result in another one.