[Patricia4]

Originally Posted by Livia

If anyone ever wonders why trial by jury is flawed, they should read this thread.

When Bear walked into the bedroom and started shouting the odds, Heavy D went off on him, telling him him to shut up because people were sleeping. Had Bear walked away it would have been over. But he didn't. He walked up to Heavy D's bed, sat on his bedside cabinet and put his foot on Heavy's bed, knowing that he was already angry. It was a calculated action meant to antagonise, and it did.

Bear smashed a mirror in the garden and he acted like a twat in the diary room - until someone bigger turned up, then he couldn't have been more co-operative.

I'm really struggling to see how Bear has any support in to whatsoever. I really don't like Heavy D either, but Bear was completely in the wrong last night and BB would have been totally within their rights to have expelled him.

I agree with this Livia you are spot on and to be honest I would of liked him to be removed I was a fan of his but not anymore he's turned in to a real twat.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Livia

If anyone ever wonders why trial by jury is flawed, they should read this thread.

When Bear walked into the bedroom and started shouting the odds, Heavy D went off on him, telling him him to shut up because people were sleeping. Had Bear walked away it would have been over. But he didn't. He walked up to Heavy D's bed, sat on his bedside cabinet and put his foot on Heavy's bed, knowing that he was already angry. It was a calculated action meant to antagonise, and it did.

Bear smashed a mirror in the garden and he acted like a twat in the diary room - until someone bigger turned up, then he couldn't have been more co-operative.

I'm really struggling to see how Bear has any support whatsoever. I really don't like Heavy D either, but Bear was completely in the wrong last night and BB would have been totally within their rights to have expelled him.

[ThriceShy]

Imagine the reaction if bear spat in someone's food or got out of bed to physically threaten them.

[calyman]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

Imagine the reaction if bear spat in someone's food or got out of bed to physically threaten them.

just so long as it's in context. It's clear the eejit bear was the instigator here.

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

Imagine the reaction if bear spat in someone's food or got out of bed to physically threaten them.

You're wasting your time....people apply right and wrong based solely on who they do and don't like.

Kills em to defend anything that's been done by someone as annoying as Bear...the concept that someone they don't like is being treated badly doesnt exist.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by hot2go

You're wasting your time....people apply right and wrong based solely on who they do and don't like.

Kills em to defend anything that's been done by someone as annoying as Bear...the concept that someone they don't like is being treated badly doesnt exist.

Very sadly I have to admit, not a truer word spoken there hot2go.
Well said.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by hot2go

You're wasting your time....people apply right and wrong based solely on who they do and don't like.

Kills em to defend anything that's been done by someone as annoying as Bear...the concept that someone they don't like is being treated badly doesnt exist.

Well that's rich.

I don't like any of them and, like most people on here, based my opinion on what I saw with my own eyes.

[jet]

Originally Posted by hot2go

You're wasting your time....people apply right and wrong based solely on who they do and don't like.

Kills em to defend anything that's been done by someone as annoying as Bear...the concept that someone they don't like is being treated badly doesnt exist.

That's unfair. Speaking for myself, I don't like to see anyone treated badly, whether I like them or not. I thought it was absolutely disgusting that Aubrey spat in his food and said so. Apart from that, I don't agree he has been treated badly as we don't have the full picture of his dialogue with BB in the DR. BB said he had already been spoken to several times about his behaviour and there he was ignoring them and being warned again so maybe they weren't willing to just give him what he wanted when he wanted it.

[armand.kay]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

Imagine the reaction if bear spat in someone's food or got out of bed to physically threaten them.

people would be calling for him to be ejected lol

[hot2go]

I don't think BB should not have let Bear back into the house with the others at that moment but I don't think BB should have left him on his own in a state of distress and what looked like a panic attack caused by being locked up....he clearly said to the guard that he just wanted to have someone else there.....

Was it only me who found that uncomfortable to watch ...while others thought it was funny ?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by hot2go

I don't think BB should have let Bear back into the house with the others at that moment but I don't think BB should have left him on his own in a state of distress and what looked like a panic attack caused by being locked up....he clearly said to the guard that he just wanted to have someone else there.....

Was it only me who found that uncomfortable to watch ...while others thought it was funny ?

Yeah, I think it's just you. The rest of us aren't about to make excuses for that kind of behaviour.

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by Livia

Yeah, I think it's just you. The rest of us aren't about to make excuses for that kind of behaviour.

I'm not making excuses for his behaviour at all...he was also wrong and it was right they took him to the diary room...But when he started to get distressed and was having a panic attack they should have gone to his aid...it was not funny at all.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by hot2go

I'm not making excuses for his behaviour at all...he was also wrong and it was right they took him to the diary room...But when he started to get distressed and was having a panic attack they should have gone to his aid...it was not funny at all.

Go and Google the symptoms of a panic attack and then try to fit those symptoms into what happened last night. Being a twat and screaming that you're going to "smash the ****ing gaff up" isn't amongst the symptoms. No one has suggested he was having a panic attack other than a couple of unqualified people on here who seem able to make a diagnosis of someone's mental health by watching them on the telly for five minutes.

Maybe you should watch it again?

[Miranda123]

Originally Posted by Livia

Go and Google the symptoms of a panic attack and then try to fit those symptoms into what happened last night. Being a twat and screaming that you're going to "smash the ****ing gaff up" isn't amongst the symptoms. No one has suggested he was having a panic attack other than a couple of unqualified people on here who seem able to make a diagnosis of someone's mental health by watching them on the telly for five minutes.

Maybe you should watch it again?

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[Garfie]

Originally Posted by hot2go

I'm not making excuses for his behaviour at all...he was also wrong and it was right they took him to the diary room...But when he started to get distressed and was having a panic attack they should have gone to his aid...it was not funny at all.

Wasn't this just a further example of ongoing and repeated aggression rather than a panic attack? If there was any panic it was probably about being thrown out of the house for his behaviour.

Sorry, but I'm not buying this- he has shown what he is all about again and again, and BB even reminded him last night he had been repeatedly warned about his behaviour. This was drunken aggression and an unwillingness to take any self-control imo.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by hot2go

Was it only me who found that uncomfortable to watch ...while others thought it was funny ?

Yet you encourage and relish in the thought of Bear "going for Saira next" you have an odd sense of uncomforting.

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by Withano

Yet you encourage and relish in the thought of Bear "going for Saira next" you have an odd sense of uncomforting.

Yes I do agree with the idea of Bear going for Saira next, especially after the lectures she's hurled his way in the past........I think what Aubrey did was a disgusting act of abuse and I completely understand why Bear feels the way he does. If Bear had encouraged Aubrey to spit in Sairas drink it would be a whole different set of principles being chucked around on here today. It's so hypocritical and indefensible that Aubrey has got away with what she did so lightly.

As for Bear being in a state of distress while locked up against his will I found it uncomfortable to watch. Just as I found Marnie flashing Saira uncomfortable to watch....it's not about only agreeing or not agreeing based on who i do and don't like....like a lot of people on here.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by hot2go

Yes I do agree with the idea of Bear going for Saira next, especially after the lectures she's hurled his way in the past........I think what Aubrey did was a disgusting act of abuse and I completely understand why Bear feels the way he does. If Bear had encouraged Aubrey to spit in Sairas drink it would be a whole different set of principles being chucked around on here today. It's so hypocritical and indefensible that Aubrey has got away with what she did so lightly.

As for Bear being in a state of distress while locked up against his will I found it uncomfortable to watch. Just as I found Marnie flashing Saira uncomfortable to watch....it's not about only agreeing or not agreeing based on who i do and don't like....like a lot of people on here.

Why would you want to see a man "go for" anybody. Thats so sadistic-sounding. Its weird you made some excellent poits about what you found wrong in the past, i agree with all of them. Alot of disgusting behaviour. But you want Bear to "go for" Saira. How? Why? Thats the hypocrisy you were banging on about and you dont even realise youre doing it.

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by Withano

Why would you want to see a man "go for" anybody. Thats so sadistic-sounding. Its weird you made some excellent poits about what you found wrong in the past, i agree with all of them. Alot of disgusting behaviour. But you want Bear to "go for" Saira. How? Why? Thats the hypocrisy you were banging on about and you dont even realise youre doing it.

It's got nothing to do with being sadistic, it is so ridiculous to say that and if I'm honest you're casting aspersions at me .....I'm not looking for him to punch her, I'm looking for him to expose her as the fraud she us ....I want him to confront her and make her accountable for it.....sadly he will prob mess it up but right now he could wipe the floor with her over her double standards.
If I was sadistic I would agree with Aubrey spitting and Marnie flashing and I absolutely don't ....Bear snogging Chloe to get back at two turn coats wasn't sadistic it was getting even.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by hot2go

Yes I do agree with the idea of Bear going for Saira next, especially after the lectures she's hurled his way in the past........I think what Aubrey did was a disgusting act of abuse and I completely understand why Bear feels the way he does. If Bear had encouraged Aubrey to spit in Sairas drink it would be a whole different set of principles being chucked around on here today. It's so hypocritical and indefensible that Aubrey has got away with what she did so lightly.

As for Bear being in a state of distress while locked up against his will I found it uncomfortable to watch. Just as I found Marnie flashing Saira uncomfortable to watch....it's not about only agreeing or not agreeing based on who i do and don't like....like a lot of people on here.

The thread isn't about Aubrey. Is it.

Locked up against his will... LMAO... you're priceless.

[hot2go]

I'm finding it hard to defend any of them...I'm just observing what I see...and I think last nights drama was started the night before by Heavys aggressive behaviour towards Bear and by Renee betraying Bear alongside Aubrey. I'm glad he didn't just take that and look like a push over.

[Northern Monkey]

Deffo not a panic attack more of an idiot attack.

[y.winter]

They could choke each other as far as I'm concerned.
Should we even take a side in this? The two fight, let the third win.

[Withano]

Bear wasnt having a panic attack, Bear isn't claustrophobic. The excuses people make up for him are absurd.

Bear is just a petulant child who got a bit upset that people werent worshipping his every move. He got angry and was detained because he was a danger to himself, his housemates and the production team.

He purposely pissed off Heavy and got the reaction he wanted, his passive aggressive 'choor what was that about' as soon as Heavy left the room was as transparent as it gets, unbeknownst to him, people saw theough his transparent act, Renee called him out on it and he lashed out by throwing things with force as he wasnt the hero/victim/lad he tried so hard to be.

How anybody watched anything different is beyond me. Then again theres a direct correlation with people who saw something different and those who are fans of Bear so maybe that explains it completely.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by Withano

Bear wasnt having a panic attack, Bear isn't claustrophobic. The excuses people make up for him are absurd.

Bear is just a petulant child who got a bit upset that people werent worshipping his every move. He got angry and was detained because he was a danger to himself, his housemates and the production team.

He purposely pissed off Heavy and got the reaction he wanted, his passive aggressive 'choor what was that about' as soon as Heavy left the room was as transparent as it gets, unbeknownst to him, people saw theough his transparent act, Renee called him out on it and he lashed out by throwing things with force as he wasnt the hero/victim/lad he tried so hard to be.

How anybody watched anything different is beyond me. Then again theres a direct correlation with people who saw something different and those who are fans of Bear so maybe that explains it completely.

How do you know he isnt claustrophobic?