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Old 06-08-2016, 10:42 AM #1
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Pretty sure every bisexual person watching [myself included] found his comments ridiculous and offensive as well, am I just a twat too?
I don't wish to pick a fight, but yes I think you are. I agree his comment was ridiculous, but Biggins is simply an un-PC luvvie with some old fashioned mistaken ideas. Why on earth should anyone be offended. Feel sorry for him, cross him off your Christmas card list or whatever, but are you so precious that you need to take offence, and does our society have to keep drifting in the direction of oppressive punishment for the smallest of thought crimes? If you aren't impressed by this argument, be aware that in 40 or 50 years time some of your beliefs today might have become a thought crime too. In the absence of freedom of speech, the shoe might be on the other foot then.

If I can also add, this episode confirms what I've always thought. If you are seen as a "goodie" on the outside, even worse if you are a national treasure as Biggins was, you should never go on CBB. Everyone eventually cracks on BB and if you are seen as a nice person initially the only way is down once you've said something wrong, and the merciless vengeful pack will descend on you and destroy you. On the other hand, if you go in as a "baddie", the slightest display of a better side will be lauded. It will be said you've been on a "journey", and you will be loved. I have every expectation, with the proviso they are clever enough to see this, that Bear and Marni will try and follow this path.

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I don't wish to pick a fight, but yes I think you are. I agree his comment was ridiculous, but Biggins is simply an un-PC luvvie with some old fashioned mistaken ideas. Why on earth should anyone be offended. Feel sorry for him, cross him off your Christmas card list or whatever, but are you so precious that you need to take offence, and does our society have to keep drifting in the direction of oppressive punishment for the smallest of thought crimes? If you aren't impressed by this argument, be aware that in 40 or 50 years time some of your beliefs today might have become a thought crime too. In the absence of freedom of speech, the shoe might be on the other foot then.

If I can also add, this episode confirms what I've always thought. If you are seen as a "goodie" on the outside, even worse if you are a national treasure as Biggins was, you should never go on CBB. Everyone eventually cracks on BB and if you are seen as a nice person initially the only way is down once you've said something wrong, and the merciless vengeful pack will descend on you and destroy you. On the other hand, if you go in as a "baddie", the slightest display of a better side will be lauded. It will be said you've been on a "journey", and you will be loved. I have every expectation, with the proviso they are clever enough to see this, that Bear and Marni will try and follow this path.
I see it exactly like you do too, why would people care what a silly old queen like Biggins thinks...and why hadn't they already worked it our for themselves anyway. It's always been glaringly obvious to me what he's like. I would hate to be someone he approves of so I'm actually quite jealous of the bi guys now The gay community love to pounce and they are meaner with each other than they are with anyone else. Biggins gossip value on the gay scene is more valuable than any moral injustice people claim to feel.
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I don't wish to pick a fight, but yes I think you are.
Thanks for pointing this out, Toy Soldier. I wouldn't accuse anyone directly of being a tw*t on a message board, I was just answering his/her question, but I apologise anyway for this reply, as I said, it's not what I would have said if that question hadn't been posed.

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I don't wish to pick a fight, but yes I think you are. I agree his comment was ridiculous, but Biggins is simply an un-PC luvvie with some old fashioned mistaken ideas. Why on earth should anyone be offended. Feel sorry for him, cross him off your Christmas card list or whatever, but are you so precious that you need to take offence, and does our society have to keep drifting in the direction of oppressive punishment for the smallest of thought crimes? If you aren't impressed by this argument, be aware that in 40 or 50 years time some of your beliefs today might have become a thought crime too. In the absence of freedom of speech, the shoe might be on the other foot then.
A) I presume you aren't bisexual and as such aren't in a position to comment on what is and isn't derogatory about bisexuals. "The worst ones" isn't really open for discussion, it wasn't an enlightening open to a conversation - not that we were privy too anyway - it was dismissing us as indecisive, flippant or an obstacle to the LGBT movement. Renee's comment of "pick a side" is wildly ridiculous when LGBT kinda contains the ****ing B word itself.
B) It's not oppressive punishment. He broke a private TV show's rules and was ejected.
and C) I don't know you but congrats, I think you're a twat too <3
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What backlash? Nobody gave a **** outside of a few twats on twitter.

He's probably said something racist the more I think about it.
Well there's about 17 pages of back lash on here so unless people on here are unique I imagine it was the same on other social media ...I was in a minority who didn't like him when he went in, he was liked by a lot of people so he must have said more than we've seen
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so wait a minute.what yr did big brother join channel 5?channel 4 didn't give a **** about racist 4
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If he's been removed for simply stating an opinion on something, then that's beyond ridiculous, it would be a different story if he's said something morally offensive to someone, time will tell, but in my view, opinions shouldn't get someone ejected, actions should.
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If he's been removed for simply stating an opinion on something, then that's beyond ridiculous, it would be a different story if he's said something morally offensive to someone, time will tell, but in my view, opinions shouldn't get someone ejected, actions should.
You can always offend someone with whatever you say ,you cannot please everyone all the time
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I bet that Katie milked it for everything it was worth.
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I bet that Katie milked it for everything it was worth.
Only bit of action out of her ,she's so far stuck up the Americans arses she never sees daylight
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Only bit of action out of her ,she's so far stuck up the Americans arses she never sees daylight
I was warming to her as a bit of a harmless moron. But combine idiocy with a hunger for fame and you always get dangerously manipulative people.
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CHRISTOPHER Biggins has been removed from the CBB house after just a week allegedly after making a joke about concentration camps.

Biggins made the insensitive joke in conversation with Jewish housemate Katie Waissel.

She was left in tears and the house was in shock.

In a statement released by Big Bro, it has been confirmed that Biggins was removed due to offensive comments.

"Big Brother has taken the decision to remove Christopher Biggins from the Celebrity Big Brother house," the statement read.

"Since entering Big Brother, he has made a number of comments capable of causing great offence to housemates and the viewing public."

"Big Brother does not tolerate offensive language capable of causing widespread offence. Christopher Biggins has left the house."

Biggins caused outrage when he commented that bisexual people were the "worst type of people".

In a conversation with Renee, they called on bisexual people to "pick a team".

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The Daily Star are reporting that it was a Nazi joke in a conversation with Katie:
But Aubrey can stay and she admired Hitler ?
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But Aubrey can stay and she admired Hitler ?
She only said he was a clever man to be able to manipulate a country to perform the atrocities they did.
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OMG that sounds awful.

Here for Katie's winners edit though
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Here for Katie's winners edit though
Katie will win sod all
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