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Marsh. · 01-09-2016, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Usually because they have thought about it and investigated it more

hence the reason they do not believe in gods

And yet religious people have the reputation of arrogance.

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But remember that even the ones who say they have a "faith" are atheist to 99.9% of all other gods

I wish I could speak on behalf of billions of people like that.

What magical powers you have.

Crimson Dynamo · 01-09-2016, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh.

And yet religious people have the reputation of arrogance.

I wish I could speak on behalf of billions of people like that.

What magical powers you have.

How do you know religious people have that reputation?

and what evidence do you have that Christians, Muslims, Hindus or Jews (for example) believe in other gods as well as their own?

Marsh. · 01-09-2016, 02:19 PM

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How do you know religious people have that reputation?

and what evidence do you have that Christians, Muslims, Hindus or Jews (for example) believe in other gods as well as their own?

How does anyone what reputation anyone has? The way they're spoken about and referred to. Obviously.

Well considering there are many more religions in the world, all of which breakdown into several different branches of those religions, how DO YOU make the assumption that 99% of them are "atheists to other religions"?

jaxie · 01-09-2016, 02:22 PM

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It's always the atheists that are the experts on religion around here.

Who said they were an expert?

All I can tell you is that I, being me, myself, don't believe in fairies, father Christmas or some guy who lives in the sky and drowns billions of people who didn't get a ticket on his custom boat. Everyone else can do what they like.

Marsh. · 01-09-2016, 02:25 PM

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Who said they were an expert?

I just did and you quoted it.

Kizzy · 01-09-2016, 02:50 PM

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It's always the atheists that are the experts on religion around here.

I'm not an atheist... fact, not everyone who has an opinion on religion is an atheist.

Are those who consider themselves religious automatically experts on religion?

Marsh. · 01-09-2016, 03:15 PM

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I'm not an atheist... fact, not everyone who has an opinion on religion is an atheist.

Are those who consider themselves religious automatically experts on religion?

Who said you were an atheist?

I don't remember speaking about you, to you or engaging you at all.

Kizzy · 01-09-2016, 09:05 PM

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Who said you were an atheist?

I don't remember speaking about you, to you or engaging you at all.

Your post didn't specify therefore it appears to be a generalisation directed towards anyone who doesn't subscribe to a religious label, that would include me.
If you wish to avoid confusion try being a little more specific as to who you are attempting to patronise in future.

Marsh. · 01-09-2016, 09:46 PM

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Your post didn't specify therefore it appears to be a generalisation directed towards anyone who doesn't subscribe to a religious label, that would include me.
If you wish to avoid confusion try being a little more specific as to who you are attempting to patronise in future.

Oh no, I made a generalisation? I fit in great in this thread then. Seems the irony went over your head?

Also, not everything is about you Kiz.

If I'm talking about atheists then that also isn't directed towards anyone who doesn't subscribe to a religious label. There are many non religious, non-atheist people.

Braden · 01-09-2016, 02:45 PM

DId you or did you not come for me, Ricky? (I'm an Agnostic (most people will not get that Drag Race reference but oh well

)).

I did agree with mostly everything he said until the Agnostic comments. I will admit, he did cause me to doubt myself. The Santa Claus example is an accurate one to use, but the jumper one irked me a little bit. It's quite obvious to know that a jumper is not capable of creating the universe, but that's because it's a physical thing. God and religion is a much more powerful prospect, which is a lot less easier to doubt (imo).

Johnnyuk123 · 01-09-2016, 10:37 PM

If i said that in my hand is a 50 pound note when clearly there is nothing in my hand at all would you believe me? No you would not. And you'd be right too refute it. So what are we left with? People say that they believe in god because.... to me it's real ( there is no evidence to prove that point of view) Meanwhile i still have a 50 pound note in the palm of my hand for those who can see beyond there being nothing in my hand at all. That's religion in a nut shell. Blind to reality, a leap of faith,the world is still flat right? god said so, well that book recons he said it. How did that go? Imagine if the Viz was picked up instead of that bible book of fairy stories? Today we would all be worshiping two fat slags and beheading folk for slating them for our fat slag faith.

Marsh. · 01-09-2016, 11:21 PM

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If i said that in my hand is a 50 pound note when clearly there is nothing in my hand at all would you believe me? No you would not. And you'd be right too refute it. So what are we left with? People say that they believe in god because.... to me it's real ( there is no evidence to prove that point of view) Meanwhile i still have a 50 pound note in the palm of my hand for those who can see beyond there being nothing in my hand at all. That's religion in a nut shell. Blind to reality, a leap of faith,the world is still flat right? god said so, well that book recons he said it. How did that go? Imagine if the Viz was picked up instead of that bible book of fairy stories? Today we would all be worshiping two fat slags and beheading folk for slating them for our fat slag faith.

You bring up these same things time and time again without any elaboration on what relevance they have?

Believing the world was flat wasn't a "religious" thing and was later proven incorrect by advancement in science and research that showed the earth was actually spherical.

No such proof has been offered to disprove any religion or the existence of a deity so the point of you bringing it up alludes us.

Kizzy · 01-09-2016, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh.

You bring up these same things time and time again without any elaboration on what relevance they have?

Believing the world was flat wasn't a "religious" thing and was later proven incorrect by advancement in science and research that showed the earth was actually spherical.

No such proof has been offered to disprove any religion or the existence of a deity so the point of you bringing it up alludes us.

Nope... they knew in the 6th century BC that the earth was not flat

Marsh. · 01-09-2016, 11:28 PM

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Nope... they knew in the 6th century BC that the earth was not flat

Yes, and... ?

Kizzy · 01-09-2016, 11:32 PM

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Yes, and... ?

Just trying to help jeeze... it wasn't advancement after the fact this was ancient knowledge way before the bible was written.

Livia · 01-09-2016, 10:55 PM

Where in the Bible does it say the Earth is flat?

Marsh. · 01-09-2016, 11:19 PM

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Where in the Bible does it say the Earth is flat?

Nowhere, but it's repeated in several issues of The Unfunny Guide to Jokes.

Kizzy · 01-09-2016, 11:08 PM

It says the meek shall inherit the Earth ... the flat bits, and all the twunts can have the hills.

Livia · 02-09-2016, 08:26 AM

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It says the meek shall inherit the Earth ... the flat bits, and all the twunts can have the hills.

This is nonsensical.

user104658 · 02-09-2016, 09:53 AM

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this is nonsensical.

This. Is. Spartaaa!

Kizzy · 02-09-2016, 12:25 PM

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This is nonsensical.

It's a nod to sisyphus... we can all identify with that

Livia · 02-09-2016, 12:40 PM

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It's a nod to sisyphus... we can all identify with that

Some of us more than others.

Kizzy · 02-09-2016, 12:44 PM

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Some of us more than others.

Oh we can, it's only the size of the rock that differs.

Marsh. · 01-09-2016, 11:50 PM

I've not confused myself. I know what I posted and stand by it. You've misunderstood my post but instead of admitting so and moving on you try to turn the tables. Standard Kizzy.

The bible wasn't even mentioned in the post you quote yet you thought I was referring to after it was written, that's your fault not mine.

Moving on...

Kizzy · 02-09-2016, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Marsh.

I've not confused myself. I know what I posted and stand by it. You've misunderstood my post but instead of admitting so and moving on you try to turn the tables. Standard Kizzy.

The bible wasn't even mentioned in the post you quote yet you thought I was referring to after it was written, that's your fault not mine.

Moving on...

Could you confirm from what was it 'later' proven from?

You say 'later' what is the 6th century later than...the dawn of time?

If so that would be a given wouldn't it that at some time since the dawn of time it was proven, is that what you are standing by?

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