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Old 10-11-2016, 11:32 AM #1
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I don't think protesting the result is a bad thing, especially since Clinton lost despite getting more votes. A result like that isn't going to sit well with people and they have a right to make their voices heard. People are allowed to take issue with the Electoral system and to demand changes to make it so that it better reflects the votes.
Yeah we would have loved 4 million Kippers marching given their voice wasn't fairly represented in Parliament, the time to protest was BEFORE the election when there was a 50/50 chance Donald would be elected, they knew how the system worked, they trusted the polls and got too complacent
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Yeah we would have loved 4 million Kippers marching given their voice wasn't fairly represented in Parliament, the time to protest was BEFORE the election when there was a 50/50 chance Donald would be elected, they knew how the system worked, they trusted the polls and got too complacent
Who would have predicted that the winner would be the person with the least votes? Like Lucas said before, if it was the opposite way around and Trump lost despite getting more votes there would be RIOTS.

People are allowed to be upset, people are allowed to peacefully protest. Trump supporters need to accept that differing opinions exist.
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Trump himself indicated that he wouldn't accept the democratic process if Clinton won the presidency.
Trump himself incited violence at his rallies.
Hypocrisy is alive and well.
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Trump himself indicated that he wouldn't accept the democratic process if Clinton won the presidency.
Trump himself incited violence at his rallies.
Hypocrisy is alive and well.
Trump was well coached by Farage, he even mentioned "our own independance day' it had a lot of Brexit echos
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Who would have predicted that the winner would be the person with the least votes? Like Lucas said before, if it was the opposite way around and Trump lost despite getting more votes there would be RIOTS.

People are allowed to be upset, people are allowed to peacefully protest. Trump supporters need to accept that differing opinions exist.
We were talking to a guy in Texas who told us that he had 1000 rounds of ammunition ready for riots if Hillary won
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We were talking to a guy in Texas who told us that he had 1000 rounds of ammunition ready for riots if Hillary won
most Texans have that ready just to greet a new day
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Who would have predicted that the winner would be the person with the least votes? Like Lucas said before, if it was the opposite way around and Trump lost despite getting more votes there would be RIOTS.

People are allowed to be upset, people are allowed to peacefully protest. Trump supporters need to accept that differing opinions exist.
Where did I say they weren't allowed? My point is that it's too late to be protesting now
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Where did I say they weren't allowed? My point is that it's too late to be protesting now
I wouldn't say so, it's not too late to protest the democratic process and demand changes for 2020.
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People are allowed to be upset, people are allowed to peacefully protest. Trump supporters need to accept that differing opinions exist.
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I don't think protesting the result is a bad thing, especially since Clinton lost despite getting more votes. A result like that isn't going to sit well with people and they have a right to make their voices heard. People are allowed to take issue with the Electoral system and to demand changes to make it so that it better reflects the votes.
I'm sure you would have said the same if it had been the other way round - of course you would. No doubt in my mind!
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I'm sure you would have said the same if it had been the other way round - of course you would. No doubt in my mind!
No. I accept that people are entitled to protest even if I disagree with them.
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No. I accept that people are entitled to protest even if I disagree with them.
That's what I feel too.
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Oh let them. Racists, fascists, sexists already feel like they're legitimised. Kkk out there more outspoken than in recent years and already stories of people getting their hijab snatched off and n8igger written on doors. Let them lash out. I fear for Americans.

The 25th and 35th President got assassinated- will the 45th? Wouldn't be surprised.
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Someone suggested there should be a "none of the above" option on ballot papers which I think would have solved the problem here of voting for a "lesser" evil
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Someone suggested there should be a "none of the above" option on ballot papers which I think would have solved the problem here of voting for a "lesser" evil
Isn't that the 46% who didn't vote though?
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Isn't that the 46% who didn't vote though?
I'd imagine a lot of people vote because they can't not vote...like me for instance
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Oh let them. Racists, fascists, sexists already feel like they're legitimised. Kkk out there more outspoken than in recent years and already stories of people getting their hijab snatched off and n8igger written on doors. Let them lash out. I fear for Americans.

The 25th and 35th President got assassinated- will the 45th? Wouldn't be surprised.
Very strong post that indeed.
A lot that should be thought provoking.
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Clinton who the "protesters" support graciously accepted the WIN, the President graciously accepted the WIN

but these mainly young people cant

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Clinton who the "protesters" support graciously accepted the WIN, the President graciously accepted the WIN

but these mainly young people cant

Those two people don't represent the entire population though. It's very dictatorial to suggest that peoples views and feelings and voices should be repressed because of what the leaders think. And the win can be accepted whilst still wanting to protest against the system and try and achieve change for the future.
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I edited the OP. The protests are organized by Socialist Advantage/Socialist Alternative. I was going to add last night, but I was so tired and my laptop didn't have much juice left for me to look up good sources.
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As for the protesting from what I saw last night...

Most of the people who were interviewed skewed young. Some didn't seem to know, or at least fully understand, what they were protesting (and looked like they were having a good time). One guy was just there to "support the protesters" even though he doesn't really agree with them... just a strange affair.

The ones that did know, were calling for him to be impeached and some were angry that Bernie didn't get the nomination. Hillary's name wasn't brought up really as it was more a consensus of the democratic party being too weak to nominate anyone better than Trump.

A fair few talked to CNN and seemed resigned to the result, but wanted to make their feelings apparent for whatever it meant, a peaceful objection the result, because they said they awoke to fear this morning and this was an outlet for their anger and fears of oppression... others were obviously heavily involved activists and they were going to keep protesting for the things they believe in for as long as needed....

All pretty understandable given the things he's said during his campaign and the emotions it has stirred for many people. The crowds seemed very well mixed, if not skewed young. (The one guy there to support the protesters protesting was old though )

Anyway, these people have woken up to an America they don't really recognize (if even out of naivety) so I think that the shock is highly understandable...

Also this is an awesome sign (on the left) greatly sums up their effort

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in other words a bunch of kids with no mortgages, no dependents and little responsibility out for a lark thinking they understand the world when they havent even met it yet

quick lets get a selfy

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quick lets get a selfy

Very true!
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Not Cherie's box being stuffed full, again

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would these protesters support hillary if she went to war with russia and Iran, likely yes, they are the sort of people who want something for nothing, if hillary threw free money at them in turn support her wars, they would support her 100 percent.
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