[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Everyone wears 'clothes'... it does not specify that they chose her for her choice of attire does it?

I gave you the information you asked for.

I am also a bit stumped by your reply. You asked for an example of women or girls wearing bombs under their clothing. I gave an example of that and now you are saying everyone wears clothes. I don't get what you are saying here.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by jaxie

It's been on the news.

One that springs to mind is some of the girls kidnapped by Boko haram were drugged and sent off with suicide bombs under their clothes.

This is one but there are others.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...gerian-mother/

Cant think of any examples of people in suits or trackies carrying weapons so this is a fantastic point

Oh wait, maybe theres some, maybe we shouldnt generalise because there seems to be absolutely zero correlation between different types of clothes and weapons? Or we could just carry on being irrational generalisations?

(Not just you, theres a few that seemed to agree with Kirks silly post)

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Withano

Cant think of any examples of people in suits or trackies carrying weapons so this is a fantastic point

Oh wait, maybe theres some, maybe we shouldnt generalise because there seems to be absolutely zero correlation between different types of clothes and weapons? Or we could just carry on being irrational generalisations?

(Not just you, theres a few that seemed to agree with Kirks silly post)

actually this article I saw on Fb isn't unrelated to that point :

http://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenter...-james-obrien/

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Withano

Cant think of any examples of people in suits or trackies carrying weapons so this is a fantastic point

Oh wait, maybe theres some, maybe we shouldnt generalise because there seems to be absolutely zero correlation between different types of clothes and weapons? Or we could just carry on being irrational generalisations?

(Not just you, theres a few that seemed to agree with Kirks silly post)

Let's be straight, Kizzy asked how Kirk knew woman and girls had been involved in bombing by hiding bombs in their clothing. I pointed out it had been on the news and provided a link about one such situation. That's it. You can keep all the insinuation about generalisations to yourself. They are completely out of context.

A question was asked, I pointed out one source for the answer.

If you want examples of people in trackies with bombs look up Boston Marathon. It wasn't part of the question asked.

Do you literally have to jump on anything said that isn't your view and take it out of context?

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

actually this article I saw on Fb isn't unrelated to that point :

http://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenter...-james-obrien/

He knocked the nail on it's head so hard that the nail ripped open a black hole in the space time continuum and has doomed us all to perish in it's ever expanding mass of non-existence.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

He knocked the nail on it's head so hard that the nail ripped open a black hole in the space time continuum and has doomed us all to perish in it's ever expanding mass of non-existence.

Except it was totally irrelevant and out of context.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

actually this article I saw on Fb isn't unrelated to that point :

http://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenter...-james-obrien/

I completely love James OBrien, I'll have to watch this at some point!

[arista]

Originally Posted by Withano

I completely love James OBrien, I'll have to watch this at some point!

No James LEFT WING O' Brien
rants on far to long.
He says something , then says or maybe I am Wrong?????


Feck Knows why he is on Newsnight BBC2HD
every odd day the BBC workers are ill.


I want him on a TV Panel
"Crying."

[arista]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

He knocked the nail on it's head so hard that the nail ripped open a black hole in the space time continuum and has doomed us all to perish in it's ever expanding mass of non-existence.

He may get that Right
But alot of the Time HE IS RANTING


He has had a Breakdown Live on LBC
More USA Callers Live Dig him Down

[arista]

Originally Posted by Withano

nobody actually learns anything using the dailymail and jihadwatch as their sources, even if they think they do. Youth hasnt stopped me from using my intuition on this one so I think I'll manage.

Hang On he used the Daily Express
and others as well.
Youth is
needed more in this Section


intuition--- Yes That you have
Respect to you Withano



My feeds cover Left and Right
and Ch4HD News Live 7PM
is not caught in that BBC mess

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

He knocked the nail on it's head so hard that the nail ripped open a black hole in the space time continuum and has doomed us all to perish in it's ever expanding mass of non-existence.

Stuff and nonsense

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by jaxie

Let's be straight, Kizzy asked how Kirk knew woman and girls had been involved in bombing by hiding bombs in their clothing. I pointed out it had been on the news and provided a link about one such situation. That's it. You can keep all the insinuation about generalisations to yourself. They are completely out of context.

A question was asked, I pointed out one source for the answer.

If you want examples of people in trackies with bombs look up Boston Marathon. It wasn't part of the question asked.

Do you literally have to jump on anything said that isn't your view and take it out of context?

They had attempted to get a woman to hide something under her clothes, she didn't.
They were not the specific items referred to by kirk either were they? That was my point.
:/

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Great? Right, I would like some evidence of women carrying bombs and weapons beneath their clothing for this rebuttal to have any credence whatsoever.

Here is the evidence which you ask for; there is a great wealth more, but I should think this will suffice:

25th Dec 2002: Two assailants in burqas threw a grenade among worshippers attending Christmas Day Mass in the village of Chianwala, Northwest of Lahore, killing three and wounding thirteen.

1st Oct 2007: Bomber kills 15 in Pakistan: A burqa-wearing suicide bomber of undetermined sex has killed at least 15 people and injuring 22 at a crowded police checkpoint in Bannu, near the North Waziristan tribal region, about 110 miles south of Peshawar.

4th Dec 2007: Woman blows self up at Pakistan army checkpoint: A woman in a burqa carrying a basket over her head, thought to be an Afghan in her 30s, blew herself in*Peshawar*as she approached a checkpost.

24th Dec 2007: Woman with bomb under her burqa caught in Afghanistan: Afghan intelligence agents in*Jalalabad detained a woman, 55, hiding a bomb under her burqa. She had been followed from Kunar after a tip-off before her arrest. An official in Kunar's intelligence department explained that "She was carrying the suicide waistcoat for the Taliban."

14th Aug 2008: Shi'i pilgrims in Iraq: Twin suicide bombings by burqa'ed women*killed 22 and wounded at least 73 Shi'i pilgrims in Iskandariyah, Iraq, as the pilgrims made their way to Karbala, the police chief of Babil province.

25th Dec 2010: Burqa'ed suicide bomber kills 41 in Pakistan: In what may be the largest death toll to date,*Pakistan's first female suicide bomber*approached a security checkpoint as United Nations officials distributed aid in Khar, Bajaur Agency, to over a thousand diplaced people. She first hurled a hand grenade, then detonated an explosive-laden vest. A senior tribal administration official, Sohail Khan, announced that "At least 41 people are dead and more than 60 wounded in the suicide bombing."

10th June 2011: Assassination of Somalia's interior minister: A covered woman (not clear what exactly she was wearing) hiding a bomb killed*Abdi Shakur Sheikh Hassan*in his house in Mogadishu. A niece of the minister, she apparently detonated her explosives after being stopped by security officers; her bomb may have detonated a larger bomb already placed inside the house.


19th August 2011: "Female bombers hit Pakistan police at blast site": The Associated Press reports from Peshawar that a "burqa-clad female suicide bomber attacked police at the scene of an earlier explosion in northwestern Pakistan on Thursday, twin strikes that killed five people and broke a relative lull in [Islamist] violence."

Specifics: "two women approached police guarding [a just-bombed] area. One of the females threw a grenade, then was able to partially detonate her suicide vest, said Shafqat Malik, a police officer with the bomb disposal unit. She appeared to be 16 or 17 years old, he said. "I thought the girl was pregnant as she was walking slowly with another woman. As I tried to push people away, suddenly a blast took place," said police officer Himayat Ullah, who was wounded in the attack.

27th Sept 2013: Burqa clad woman suicide bomber kills unknown number in Helmut Province, Afghanistan: The woman in a full-length burka walked calmly into the drab government office. She moved close to the desk behind which an administrator was shuffling his papers. Others queued around her. Suddenly, without warning, she detonated the suicide vest she was wearing. The explosion flashed a brilliant white on the grainy CCTV before the cameras cut out, obliterating everything – and everyone – in the room.

29th March 2014: Four Burqa clad Taliban attackers in Kabul: Four of the Taliban members who attacked Afghanistan's*Independent Election Commission*compound today, injuring two police officers, wore burqas. None survived the assault.

13th Aug 2014: Four suicide bombings in northern Nigeria by covered women: A series of suicide bombings carried out by young women carrying*explosives under their body coverings, has wracked northern Nigeria, Agence France-Presse reports. Four such attacks by teenagers took place in July, leaving at least 9 dead and dozens injured. The worst of them, a blast at Kano State Polytechnic on July 30 killed 6 and injured 20. Another took place at an upscale shopping mall.

AFP goes on:
A security source involved in forensic analysis of the Kano blasts noted:
"From our preliminary findings, all the female suicide bombers were between 14 and 16 years which gives an idea of the age group of the bombers."

1st Dec 2014: Murder in a toilet stall:*Ibolya Ryan, a Romanian-born 37-year-old American kindergarten teacher and mother of 11-year-old twin boys, was stabbed to death with a knife on Dec. 1 by a burqa-clad woman who awaited a kafir to attack in the*toilets of the Boutik Mall on Reem Island in Abu Dhabi, UAE. The killer fled scene in a niqab and black gloves.

June 29, 2015 update: An Abu Dhabi court found*Alaa Al Hashemi, 30, an Emirati subject and mother of six, guilty of murdering Ryan and it sentenced her to death by firing squad. In addition, Al Hashemi was convicted of making a bomb (that did not explode) with which she tried to blow up an apartment belonging to an Egyptian-American doctor; of using an online account to spread information ridiculing and harming Abu Dhabi; and of sending money to Al Qaeda in Yemen.*

July 13, 2015 update: Hashemi was*executed*by firing squad.

6th Jan 2015: Attack on Istanbul police station: A female suicide bomber*killed one police officer*and injured another in the Sultan Ahmet district of Istanbul.

Istanbul governor Vasip Sahin told Turkish TV. No group has yet said it was behind the attack, the second on police in a week. ... Mr Sahin said the woman, dressed in a niqab, entered the police station and told officers she had lost her wallet before detonating the bomb.

22nd Oct 2015: Burqa clad suicide bomber kills 11 worshippers in and injures 18 more in Shi'ite mosque in Pakistan: The suicide bomber who entered the*Imambargah Mosque*in Balochistan Province in southwestern Pakistan was wearing a burqa. Police said 11 died and 18 were wounded.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Here is the evidence which you ask for; there is a great wealth more, but I should think this will suffice:

25th Dec 2002: Two assailants in burqas threw a grenade among worshippers attending Christmas Day Mass in the village of Chianwala, Northwest of Lahore, killing three and wounding thirteen.

1st Oct 2007: Bomber kills 15 in Pakistan: A burqa-wearing suicide bomber of undetermined sex has killed at least 15 people and injuring 22 at a crowded police checkpoint in Bannu, near the North Waziristan tribal region, about 110 miles south of Peshawar.

4th Dec 2007: Woman blows self up at Pakistan army checkpoint: A woman in a burqa carrying a basket over her head, thought to be an Afghan in her 30s, blew herself in*Peshawar*as she approached a checkpost.

24th Dec 2007: Woman with bomb under her burqa caught in Afghanistan: Afghan intelligence agents in*Jalalabad detained a woman, 55, hiding a bomb under her burqa. She had been followed from Kunar after a tip-off before her arrest. An official in Kunar's intelligence department explained that "She was carrying the suicide waistcoat for the Taliban."

14th Aug 2008: Shi'i pilgrims in Iraq: Twin suicide bombings by burqa'ed women*killed 22 and wounded at least 73 Shi'i pilgrims in Iskandariyah, Iraq, as the pilgrims made their way to Karbala, the police chief of Babil province.

25th Dec 2010: Burqa'ed suicide bomber kills 41 in Pakistan: In what may be the largest death toll to date,*Pakistan's first female suicide bomber*approached a security checkpoint as United Nations officials distributed aid in Khar, Bajaur Agency, to over a thousand diplaced people. She first hurled a hand grenade, then detonated an explosive-laden vest. A senior tribal administration official, Sohail Khan, announced that "At least 41 people are dead and more than 60 wounded in the suicide bombing."

10th June 2011: Assassination of Somalia's interior minister: A covered woman (not clear what exactly she was wearing) hiding a bomb killed*Abdi Shakur Sheikh Hassan*in his house in Mogadishu. A niece of the minister, she apparently detonated her explosives after being stopped by security officers; her bomb may have detonated a larger bomb already placed inside the house.


19th August 2011: "Female bombers hit Pakistan police at blast site": The Associated Press reports from Peshawar that a "burqa-clad female suicide bomber attacked police at the scene of an earlier explosion in northwestern Pakistan on Thursday, twin strikes that killed five people and broke a relative lull in [Islamist] violence."

Specifics: "two women approached police guarding [a just-bombed] area. One of the females threw a grenade, then was able to partially detonate her suicide vest, said Shafqat Malik, a police officer with the bomb disposal unit. She appeared to be 16 or 17 years old, he said. "I thought the girl was pregnant as she was walking slowly with another woman. As I tried to push people away, suddenly a blast took place," said police officer Himayat Ullah, who was wounded in the attack.

27th Sept 2013: Burqa clad woman suicide bomber kills unknown number in Helmut Province, Afghanistan: The woman in a full-length burka walked calmly into the drab government office. She moved close to the desk behind which an administrator was shuffling his papers. Others queued around her. Suddenly, without warning, she detonated the suicide vest she was wearing. The explosion flashed a brilliant white on the grainy CCTV before the cameras cut out, obliterating everything – and everyone – in the room.

29th March 2014: Four Burqa clad Taliban attackers in Kabul: Four of the Taliban members who attacked Afghanistan's*Independent Election Commission*compound today, injuring two police officers, wore burqas. None survived the assault.

13th Aug 2014: Four suicide bombings in northern Nigeria by covered women: A series of suicide bombings carried out by young women carrying*explosives under their body coverings, has wracked northern Nigeria, Agence France-Presse reports. Four such attacks by teenagers took place in July, leaving at least 9 dead and dozens injured. The worst of them, a blast at Kano State Polytechnic on July 30 killed 6 and injured 20. Another took place at an upscale shopping mall.

AFP goes on:
A security source involved in forensic analysis of the Kano blasts noted:
"From our preliminary findings, all the female suicide bombers were between 14 and 16 years which gives an idea of the age group of the bombers."

1st Dec 2014: Murder in a toilet stall:*Ibolya Ryan, a Romanian-born 37-year-old American kindergarten teacher and mother of 11-year-old twin boys, was stabbed to death with a knife on Dec. 1 by a burqa-clad woman who awaited a kafir to attack in the*toilets of the Boutik Mall on Reem Island in Abu Dhabi, UAE. The killer fled scene in a niqab and black gloves.

June 29, 2015 update: An Abu Dhabi court found*Alaa Al Hashemi, 30, an Emirati subject and mother of six, guilty of murdering Ryan and it sentenced her to death by firing squad. In addition, Al Hashemi was convicted of making a bomb (that did not explode) with which she tried to blow up an apartment belonging to an Egyptian-American doctor; of using an online account to spread information ridiculing and harming Abu Dhabi; and of sending money to Al Qaeda in Yemen.*

July 13, 2015 update: Hashemi was*executed*by firing squad.

6th Jan 2015: Attack on Istanbul police station: A female suicide bomber*killed one police officer*and injured another in the Sultan Ahmet district of Istanbul.

Istanbul governor Vasip Sahin told Turkish TV. No group has yet said it was behind the attack, the second on police in a week. ... Mr Sahin said the woman, dressed in a niqab, entered the police station and told officers she had lost her wallet before detonating the bomb.

22nd Oct 2015: Burqa clad suicide bomber kills 11 worshippers in and injures 18 more in Shi'ite mosque in Pakistan: The suicide bomber who entered the*Imambargah Mosque*in Balochistan Province in southwestern Pakistan was wearing a burqa. Police said 11 died and 18 were wounded.

No links to these news items?

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

No links to these news items?

Yes thanks.