[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I posted that this afternoon, it means nothing, the silly rant about nothing will rumble on regardless, any reference to courts and juries are pointless and baseless.
The trust just don't want some alf garnettesque outbursts in their visitors centres, which is perfectly acceptable.

and you know it was this how?

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Yes my mother is in her 80s and she wouldn't dream voicing such ignorant views...
I do have an expectation for EVERYONE to follow the law as well as the codes of conduct for the organisations they represent.

Double standards.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

No, that sounds different as he was being physically threatening. However the way that made you feel makes it difficult to remain unbiased on this in my opinion.

Not at all. I was surrounded by a lot of elderly people all waiting to see a doctor and they cheered me challenging him. I would never tar the elderly with the same brush as him.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Really, so you expect an old man in his seventies who grew up in a different time to move on in these progressive times but don't have the same expectation of Muslims who come here and refuse to move on from the sexist controlling ways they grew up with. Why is that no surprise!

What an ignorant example based on nothing more than pure hysteria. Do you believe all Muslims are sexist and abusive? Do you hold sweeping stereotypes about all religions as gospel or just the ones mostly followed by Arabic people?

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

What an ignorant example based on nothing more than pure hysteria. Do you believe all Muslims are sexist and abusive? Do you hold sweeping stereotypes about all religions as gospel or just the ones mostly followed by Arabic people?

Not hysteria, just what I see almost every day.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Not hysteria, just what I see almost every day.

More likely what you want to see with your broad judgement on an entire group of people.

[Tozzie]

I think a lot of people are guilty of making racist remarks whilst in conversation, almost everything we say in these PC days can be deemed as racist remarks, we mostly should all walk around with our mouths zipped, it has gotten to the point where people are afraid to open their mouths or speak their minds. I remember Jade Goody getting done for saying 'that Shilpa Poppadom or whatever her name is' and I thought it ridiculous she got a serious warning for that. If someone calls me a Yorkshire Pudding I don't going around shouting...........RACIST, everything is bloody racist these days. I'll probably get locked up now for saying this, *waiting for the handcuffs*

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Tozzie

I think a lot of people are guilty of making racist remarks whilst in conversation, almost everything we say in these PC days can be deemed as racist remarks, we mostly should all walk around with our mouths zipped, it has gotten to the point where people are afraid to open their mouths or speak their minds. I remember Jade Goody getting done for saying 'that Shilpa Poppadom or whatever her name is' and I thought it ridiculous she got a serious warning for that. If someone calls me a Yorkshire Pudding I don't going around shouting...........RACIST, everything is bloody racist these days. I'll probably get locked up now for saying this, *waiting for the handcuffs*

PC gave us Brexit at the end of the day because people have been pushed too far. PC is judgemental and oppressive - everything it accuses 'racists' of being. Pot and kettle. Free speech is only applicable to them and they are too far up their own A***s to see it.

[Scarlett.]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

What is vile is trying to force others to think like they do. Free thought and personal opinion in a private conversation is a RIGHT. This is not a dictatorship.

The station have the right to not allow him into certain parts of the station if they so wish to do so, this report seems to be lacking in details, so its hard to actually say if he was in the wrong or right, but either way, the station has the right.

[Scarlett.]

Originally Posted by Tozzie

I think a lot of people are guilty of making racist remarks whilst in conversation, almost everything we say in these PC days can be deemed as racist remarks, we mostly should all walk around with our mouths zipped, it has gotten to the point where people are afraid to open their mouths or speak their minds. I remember Jade Goody getting done for saying 'that Shilpa Poppadom or whatever her name is' and I thought it ridiculous she got a serious warning for that. If someone calls me a Yorkshire Pudding I don't going around shouting...........RACIST, everything is bloody racist these days. I'll probably get locked up now for saying this, *waiting for the handcuffs*

While I didn't agree with Jade Goody's stupid thoughtless comments, I thought the way she was vilified for what she actually said was rather over the top, the hate she got was far worse than some silly little comment.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Chewy

While I didn't agree with Jade Goody's stupid thoughtless comments, I thought the way she was vilified for what she actually said was rather over the top, the hate she got was far worse than some silly little comment.

There were a number of people in the house that were emotionally bullying Shilpa. Jack Tweed called her a **** ****** and Goody called her 'Shilpa ****awallah' and Danielle Lloyd said she should '**** off home'. From what I remember it was really nasty stuff at the time and I believe they got a record number of complaints and lost BB sponsors because of it.

Whilst it had to be shown that this sort of talk was not acceptable, the media were particularly cruel to Goody, even after she apologised. In my mind, Jades mum, Lloyd and Tweed were much worse than Jade but she was the one who was made to suffer.

[Scarlett.]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

There were a number of people in the house that were emotionally bullying Shilpa. Jack Tweed called her a **** ****** and Goody called her 'Shilpa ****awallah' and Danielle Lloyd said she should '**** off home'. From what I remember it was really nasty stuff at the time and I believe they got a record number of complaints and lost BB sponsors because of it.

Whilst it had to be shown that this sort of talk was not acceptable, the media were particularly cruel to Goody, even after she apologised. In my mind, Jades mum, Lloyd and Tweed were much worse than Jade but she was the one who was made to suffer.

Pretty much, I think people just pinned it mainly on Jade, because she was the biggest name in the show at that point, what she did was wrong, but the backlash against her was way over the top. I remember at the time thinking Danielle Lloyd seemed to be the most horrible toward Shilpa.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

There were a number of people in the house that were emotionally bullying Shilpa. Jack Tweed called her a **** ****** and Goody called her 'Shilpa ****awallah' and Danielle Lloyd said she should '**** off home'. From what I remember it was really nasty stuff at the time and I believe they got a record number of complaints and lost BB sponsors because of it.

Whilst it had to be shown that this sort of talk was not acceptable, the media were particularly cruel to Goody, even after she apologised. In my mind, Jades mum, Lloyd and Tweed were much worse than Jade but she was the one who was made to suffer.

Yeah, the "Shilpa Poppadom" comment was really the least of what went on that year... although I agree, Jade took most of the flak for it (because of her higher profile at the time) when she wasn't the worst by far.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

and you know it was this how?

By reading the link in the OP.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Double standards.

:/ Where, I haven't stated any?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Yeah, the "Shilpa Poppadom" comment was really the least of what went on that year... although I agree, Jade took most of the flak for it (because of her higher profile at the time) when she wasn't the worst by far.

Yeah was about to say the same thing. It was a sort of the higher you are the harder you're going to fall type thing, no one even knew who Jack, Jades mom and Danielle were which is why Jade and Jo took most of the backlash.simply because they were known to the public more

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

PC gave us Brexit at the end of the day because people have been pushed too far. PC is judgemental and oppressive - everything it accuses 'racists' of being. Pot and kettle. Free speech is only applicable to them and they are too far up their own A***s to see it.

Ah, PC is out for an airing... the nonsense non word that means nothing and everything in an attempt to give credence to a right wing perspective on anything...Without actually having to have the intelligence to form a credible opinion on any given topic.
Who are 'them' and why do you insult them?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

So it isn't okay to disbelieve his version of events because they make no sense but it's fine to believe him when it allows you to take a pop at 'PC gone mad' bull****?

Dezzy, I have no idea what this means in relation to what I wrote.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yeah was about to say the same thing. It was a sort of the higher you are the harder you're going to fall type thing, no one even knew who Jack, Jades mom and Danielle were which is why Jade and Jo took most of the backlash.simply because they were known to the public more

Well of course, if you are offensive to a national treasure on national television you are going to be the ones held to account, Imagine someone being offensive to Joanna Lumley on Indian TV There would be OUTRAGE!

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Well of course, if you are offensive to a national treasure on national television you are going to be the ones held to account, Imagine someone being offensive to Joanna Lumley on Indian TV There would be OUTRAGE!

and rightly so Dahling

[Livia]

Until there is testimony from the man in question it's all just conjecture. One group stands behind the accused without knowing what happened, one group stands behind the accusers without knowing what happened. We're all starting to make up our own version of events.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

and rightly so Dahling

Oooo bit racist...

[Kizzy]

I'm offended.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Livia

Dezzy, I have no idea what this means in relation to what I wrote.

It's fairly simple, Livia. You slated everyone for making their minds up about the story and then you ended your post with '"I'm offended" is fast becoming the national motto' which suggests that you are siding with the man which is exactly what you were slating everyone else for, perhaps even worse, given how unlikely his version of events are.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

Oooo bit racist...

Typo TYPO