[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Withano

Suppose that makes one

Two at least.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Two at least.

Three.

[Glenn.]

Anyway

[Kizzy]

A make believe god? .....

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

A make believe god? .....

Well isn't it then?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Well isn't it then?

Isn't what a make believe god? ... There is only one.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Isn't what a make believe god? ... There is only one.

How can you know? No one has ever been able to produce any proof.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by jaxie

How can you know? No one has ever been able to produce any proof.

Are you suggesting the Christian and Islamist gods are two separate entities?

[Kizzy]

There's also a misconception that if you are not part of a recognised religion you are an atheist :/

[Marsh.]

Here for this though. Sounds amazing.

[AnnieK]

Religion itself doesn't cause wars or hatred....People use their interpretation as reason to commit heinous acts. "God" or whatever deity people believe in become an excuse. Most people who believe in religion do so for the right reasons but there are exceptions in all religions who will use it to justify their own actions. Religion brings peace and comfort to many.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Religion itself doesn't cause wars or hatred....People use their interpretation as reason to commit heinous acts. "God" or whatever deity people believe in become an excuse. Most people who believe in religion do so for the right reasons but there are exceptions in all religions who will use it to justify their own actions. Religion brings peace and comfort to many.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Religion itself doesn't cause wars or hatred....People use their interpretation as reason to commit heinous acts. "God" or whatever deity people believe in become an excuse. Most people who believe in religion do so for the right reasons but there are exceptions in all religions who will use it to justify their own actions. Religion brings peace and comfort to many.

Excellent post

[Tozzie]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Religion itself doesn't cause wars or hatred....People use their interpretation as reason to commit heinous acts. "God" or whatever deity people believe in become an excuse. Most people who believe in religion do so for the right reasons but there are exceptions in all religions who will use it to justify their own actions. Religion brings peace and comfort to many.

I love this, my belief certainly brings me comfort

[Brillopad]

A religious belief is simply an idea, a thought, an opinion. It isn't something that can be measured or proven. It never will be and therefore has no right to any kind of special consideration . It only exists in some people's minds. It certainly has no right to be considered untouchable, undebateable or beyond criticism.

Yes it gives people comfort but when it is used as a way to control people or gives people reason to hate others who don't believe in the same - it becomes dangerous and more trouble than it's worth in my opinion.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

A religious belief is simply an idea, a thought, an opinion. It isn't something that can be measured or proven. It never will be and therefore has no right to any kind of special consideration . It only exists in some people's minds.

Yes it gives people comfort but when it is used as a way to control people or gives people reason to hate others who don't believe in the same - it becomes dangerous and more trouble than it's worth in my opinion.

I couldn't have put it better myself.

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Religion itself doesn't cause wars or hatred....People use their interpretation as reason to commit heinous acts. "God" or whatever deity people believe in become an excuse. Most people who believe in religion do so for the right reasons but there are exceptions in all religions who will use it to justify their own actions. Religion brings peace and comfort to many.

Originally Posted by Brillopad

A religious belief is simply an idea, a thought, an opinion. It isn't something that can be measured or proven..

And by the same token, disproven. Not believing in it is all fine and well, actively lambasting and mocking people for believing in it (and using that to make unfair aspersions on their character) is something else entirely and nothing more than small-minded bigotry, something that people ironically like to exclusively blame religion for.

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Yes it gives people comfort but when it is used as a way to control people or gives people reason to hate others who don't believe in the same - it becomes dangerous and more trouble than it's worth in my opinion.

I think the same can be said for some anti-religious sentiments.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

And by the same token, disproven. Not believing in it is all fine and well, actively lambasting and mocking people for believing in it (and using that to make unfair aspersions on their character) is something else entirely and nothing more than small-minded bigotry, something that people ironically like to exclusively blame religion for.



I think the same can be said for some anti-religious sentiments.

I think people only mock it because of how many abuse it. People use religion in many negative ways whilst at the same time trying to wave some kind of flag of moral superiority.

Many want special considerations because of their beliefs and many don't just quietly believe in what they believe - they want to shove it down everyone else's throats - hence it becomes problematic for others. Why should everyone simply respect what goes on in the minds of others when they have their own different thoughts.

Those that make a big song and dance about it are the least real in my opinion.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

And by the same token, disproven. Not believing in it is all fine and well, actively lambasting and mocking people for believing in it (and using that to make unfair aspersions on their character) is something else entirely and nothing more than small-minded bigotry, something that people ironically like to exclusively blame religion for.



I think the same can be said for some anti-religious sentiments.

The only one who seems to be making unfair aspersions and name calling is you.

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by jaxie

The only one who seems to be making unfair aspersions and name calling is you.

If that's what you believe then I highly suggest you make more effort to actually read the thread rather than just the parts that suit you

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

If that's what you believe then I highly suggest you make more effort to actually read the thread rather than just the parts that suit you

Clearly you haven't.

[Glenn.]

I don't hate religious people. I just judge their intelligence.

Annie's avatar is a prime example. Devout Christians believe God made the Earth in 7 days. He didn't. It literally took millions of years to make the earth and a few million more years before there were the tiniest specks of life on it.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

I don't hate religious people. I just judge their intelligence.

Annie's avatar is a prime example. Devout Christians believe God made the Earth in 7 days. He didn't. It literally took millions of years to make the earth and a few million more years before there were the tiniest specks of life on it.

BIB, just because Christianity hasn't got the facts right still doesn't mean that there wasn't a higher being who did build Earth after millions of years, afterall it could've been many Gods that built Earth, or as some believe it could be the big bang that randomly generated life and supplies to help the animal kingdom survive. Or it really could just be one man or woman or some unknown gender but the facts were distorted.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

BIB, just because Christianity hasn't got the facts right still doesn't mean that there wasn't a higher being who did build Earth after millions of years, afterall it could've been many Gods that built Earth, or as some believe it could be the big bang that randomly generated life and supplies to help the animal kingdom survive. Or it really could just be one man or woman or some unknown gender but the facts were distorted.

Sweetie no.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Sweetie no.

Why can't a higher being have created the Universe?