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Nicky91 · 26-04-2018, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Adam.

So you think it is acceptable for the thug to organise protests to target the hospital and staff?

Do you not care for the families who are unable to be at their child's bedside because of this thug?

I'm not being funny but all he cares about is causing trouble and getting in the papers.

like he's a bank robber, or murderer

i hoped you were trying to be funny

Kizzy · 26-04-2018, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Adam.

So you think it is acceptable for the thug to organise protests to target the hospital and staff?

Do you not care for the families who are unable to be at their child's bedside because of this thug?

I'm not being funny but all he cares about is causing trouble and getting in the papers.

Don't preempt my thoughts please.

All I said was walk a mile, none of us know indefinitely what we would do in a similar position.

Denver · 26-04-2018, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy

Don't preempt my thoughts please.

All I said was walk a mile, none of us know indefinitely what we would do in a similar position.

I'd be at the bedside 247 not organising mobs and selling stories

Nicky91 · 26-04-2018, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Adam.

I'd be at the bedside 247 not organising mobs and selling stories

fair, i get your point now

you try to say he does this for attention while he should rather be at the bedside

arista · 26-04-2018, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam.

I'd be at the bedside 247 not organising mobs and selling stories

Yes the MOBS
are the PROBLEM

Amy Jade · 26-04-2018, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy

Calling the father of this very sick little boy names is abhorrent, walk a mile in his shoes.

I am calling his actions exactly what they are. Scummy. He is at it again saying staff at Alder Hey are snotty. He wan't her revolting army to attack staff members. He is scum.

Underscore · 26-04-2018, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Amy Jade

I am calling his actions exactly what they are. Scummy. He is at it again saying staff at Alder Hey are snotty. He wan't her revolting army to attack staff members. He is scum.

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Originally Posted by Cal.

He bloody stabbed someone! He is a thug!

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Originally Posted by Adam.

So you think its right for him to round people up to bombard the hospital and attack people ?

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Originally Posted by Adam.

I'd be at the bedside 247 not organising mobs and selling stories

Amy Jade · 26-04-2018, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy

Calling the father of this very sick little boy names is abhorrent, walk a mile in his shoes.

I actually have to say this as well. A lot of my family work in the NHS aswell as myself and my similar aged cousin both currently in education to work in health care too and you know what I find 'abhorrent'? the fact that staff who are already doing a job which for anyone would be highly emotional, looking after sick and dying children every ****ing day have to go to work in fear of being harrased by a group of absoloute morons. Walk a mile in their shoes Kizzy.

hijaxers · 26-04-2018, 05:20 PM

I didn't want to listen to this father on the news this morning , i was shocked by what he has done to 'stir' maximum trouble ! he looks like its about a money making exercise not about is son , its really shocking how hospital staff , other mothers and fathers with sick children have to deal with kind of animalistic behaviour - from people 'who care'.

Kizzy · 26-04-2018, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Amy Jade

I actually have to say this as well. A lot of my family work in the NHS aswell as myself and my similar aged cousin both currently in education to work in health care too and you know what I find 'abhorrent'? the fact that staff who are already doing a job which for anyone would be highly emotional, looking after sick and dying children every ****ing day have to go to work in fear of being harrased by a group of absoloute morons. Walk a mile in their shoes Kizzy.

Yes my family work within the NHS too, it has no bearing on how conflicted I feel in relation to this case.
Making rude comments about Alfies parents at this stressful time achieves nothing.

Amy Jade · 26-04-2018, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy

Yes my family work within the NHS too, it has no bearing on how conflicted I feel in relation to this case.
Making rude comments about Alfies parents at this stressful time achieves nothing.

Somebody who incites others to riot and harrass innocent staff members at a childrens hospital is scummy. I have seen nobody calling the mother anything just the father who has been the one doing said things.

Calling a spade a spade.

kirklancaster · 26-04-2018, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Amy Jade

Somebody who incites others to riot and harrass innocent staff members at a childrens hospital is scummy. I have seen nobody calling the mother anything just the father who has been the one doing said things.

Calling a spade a spade.

All you have had to say on this is correct in my opinion A.J.

I do not think that I would survive - or want to - if one of my beloved kids or precious little grand kids was that poor tragic little boy and I was in the dad's position, but as much as I KNOW that I would try to clutch at ANY straw which offered even the slenderest sliver of hope, I also know that I would neither incite mindless morons to threaten the poor hospital staff in the way that they have nor condone their actions.

It is time the Government got really DRACONIAN with punishments for these anarchic imbecilic mobs - and that is for ALL of them - no matter what side of the political Spectrum they hail from and no matter how 'worthy' the cause may be which they are FEIGNING support for whilst in reality they are merely seeking opportunities to indulge in their violent and offensive anti-social behaviour.

I feel for the poor little child and his family, but I also feel for the ordinary, innocent, decent hospital staff who are having to suffer the intolerable harrassment which they are.

They are being 'scapegoated'.

Babayaro. · 26-04-2018, 10:31 AM

Total morons. Surely they could have protested in a different way.

arista · 26-04-2018, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Babayaro.

Total morons. Surely they could have protested in a different way.

Yes
it appears like gangs there

Alf · 26-04-2018, 01:23 PM

The only thing I don't understand is, if the little one is going to die anyway, then why not just let the parents take him to Italy, if that's what they want to do?

user104658 · 26-04-2018, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf

The only thing I don't understand is, if the little one is going to die anyway, then why not just let the parents take him to Italy, if that's what they want to do?

Because it sets a precedent and everyone would want to start not accepting prognosis / raking their family out of hospitals... Causing huge disruption to the hospitals themselves, and undue suffering to people at the end of their lives.

AnnieK · 26-04-2018, 04:41 PM

To say he doesnt care about Alfie is pretty awful.....he obviously does care or else why go through the court cases, getting help from the Vatican etc, he could have whipped up this frenzy without all that.

Yes, he has made Alder Hey a media circus that will have impacted other patients and that is totally wrong but for people to say he doesnt care about his son is, in my opinion, wrong

user104658 · 26-04-2018, 05:14 PM

To be fair, I have sympathy for the child's family. They're clutching at anything they can and that's understandable in their situation, and I understand them not behaving rationally.

Everyone else playing into it, though... That's who I take issue with. The people who have absolutely nothing to do with it turning up at the hospital to attack staff and distress ill children and their families. There's no excuse there.

Amy Jade · 26-04-2018, 05:27 PM

I feel terrible for the family, it is a heartbreaking situation of course but the fathers actions have been disgusting.

Alfie has been there since December 2016, being looked after by countless staff and the father has gathered a mob to harrass the poor staff, some will have worked to help his child and all the idiots calling themselves an army are making it impossible for Alfie to go home. Which Nurse or Doctor would agree to looking after him at home after all the threats they have received?

AnnieK · 26-04-2018, 05:56 PM

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ts-appeal.html

Alfies Army asked to stand down

jaxie · 27-04-2018, 06:24 AM

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ents-activists

I found this a very good opinion article on this subject and am linking for anyone else who'd like to read it.