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I was 9 when my dad revealed to me and my brother he was gay, and we both understood it, without any questions, and we knew we loved him just as much as we always did. From that I learned to be on the side of LGBT people, it helped me understand the struggles they endured, and still endure to this day. You know what I didn't get when I was 9? I didn't understand how someone could hate my dad because of who he loves. Pride is just about understanding, learning and celebrating people from all walks of life. I'm 27 now and I still don't understand why some people are still so scared of LGBT people.
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I was 9 when my dad revealed to me and my brother he was gay, and we both understood it, without any questions, and we knew we loved him just as much as we always did. From that I learned to be on the side of LGBT people, it helped me understand the struggles they endured, and still endure to this day. You know what I didn't get when I was 9? I didn't understand how someone could hate my dad because of who he loves. Pride is just about understanding, learning and celebrating people from all walks of life. I'm 27 now and I still don't understand why some people are still so scared of LGBT people.
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You can't parents what to do , especially if it's younger kids .

I know people disagree with this but i will always see pride parades for adults .
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You can't parents what to do , especially if it's younger kids .

I know people disagree with this but i will always see pride parades for adults .
Them being parents is irrelevant. If you want to protest a group of children being proud of themselves, you are a ****.
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Them being parents is irrelevant. If you want to protest a group of children being proud of themselves, you are a ****.
Play on the emotive line all you like but there are plenty of people protesting about everything these days - so don’t try to moralise when parents want to protect their children from such issues at such a young age. Secondary school should be fine - they are still only eleven. You are the ****.
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ugh can we just agree that people who don’t want kids to know that the LGBT community exists are homophobic
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ugh can we just agree that people who don’t want kids to know that the LGBT community exists are homophobic
Or not..

Maybe they are just firm Christian believers who think that its wrong.

Homphobia would be homophobic acts.. Not believing in your religion
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Or not..

Maybe they are just firm Christian believers who think that its wrong.

Homphobia would be homophobic acts.. Not believing in your religion
yeah but that’s just extreme Christians nowadays, and might i add, this is most likely the older generation that are more likely to have this view, as opposed to parents of primary school children
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ugh can we just agree that people who don’t want kids to know that the LGBT community exists are homophobic
That's not really fair now is it , i always see this homophobia argument and it's tiresome . I see pride parades as being something for for older people and adults .

Maybe these parent's just don't want their kids to be apart of this type of thing YET , it doesn't mean they're prejudice gosh !.
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That's not really fair now is it , i always see this homophobia argument and it's tiresome . I see pride parades as being something for for older people and adults .

Maybe these parent's just don't want their kids to be apart of this type of thing YET , it doesn't mean they're prejudice gosh !.
No, it just means they're too immature to explain real world issues to their children and want to pass the buck.
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That's not really fair now is it , i always see this homophobia argument and it's tiresome . I see pride parades as being something for for older people and adults .

Maybe these parent's just don't want their kids to be apart of this type of thing YET , it doesn't mean they're prejudice gosh !.
but it’s a fact of life that the LGBT community exists and we should embrace that surely?
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I don't really get the argument that an event is unwelcome but 'lessons' in LGBT and pride would be fine.

Isn't that just laziness?
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Stop with the insults in this thread
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I have a massive issue with people saying that the LGBT isn't age appropriate because they insist it's only about sex. It's about more than that and if somebody doesn't think it's appopriate for children then what do they have to say about most Disney fairy tales which are based around true love and hetero relationships? Are they not appropriate for children or are you pushing the image that homosexuality or bisexuality is somehow 'dirtier' or 'inappropriate' for children? Love between two people can be as pure as any heterosexual relationship.

Plus there are kids that are raised in LGBT families, there are kids that are LGBT themselves. It's important to normalise these things because that's how you stamp out homophobia. It's learned behaviour and it's sad that these homophobes have probably sent a very negative message not only to the school but to their own children. Just imagine if any of those people's children are gay but too scared to come out/or are confused and they had to watch their parents plan a protest against pride. Such a damaging situation for the child.
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This is why we should not have the LGBT section as mentioned in the suggestions part.

It would constantly be an aggressive war zone with confusion and contradiction.

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This is why we should not have the LGBT section as mentioned in the suggestions part.

It would constantly be an aggressive war zone with confusion and contradiction.
Depends if you join the discussion id imagine.
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I disagree, it could be educational and topical but I fear the same arguments would still come up.

I'm still waiting to hear what horrors being aware of the Lgbt community we are saving our children from by keeping them wrapped in a cotton wool filled hetro world
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I disagree, it could be educational and topical but I fear the same arguments would still come up.

I'm still waiting to hear what horrors being aware of the Lgbt community we are saving our children from by keeping them wrapped in a cotton wool filled hetro world
There is none beyond making bigoted parents feel uncomfortable, I imagine.

If a parent can't overcome their bigotry for the sake of their child then they aren't worthy of being a parent. The world is harsh enough for LGBT people without feeling like they can't be themselves around the people who should love them unconditionally.
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There is none beyond making bigoted parents feel uncomfortable, I imagine.

If a parent can't overcome their bigotry for the sake of their child then they aren't worthy of being a parent. The world is harsh enough for LGBT people without feeling like they can't be themselves around the people who should love them unconditionally.
It would literally be traumatic for the kids of the ‘protesting parents’ if they ended up being gay. What a horrible thought.
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There is none beyond making bigoted parents feel uncomfortable, I imagine.

If a parent can't overcome their bigotry for the sake of their child then they aren't worthy of being a parent. The world is harsh enough for LGBT people without feeling like they can't be themselves around the people who should love them unconditionally.
The only people most people love unconditionally is their chilldren. They owe no such assurances to anyone else. I think sweeping statements that claim to know who is/isn’t fit to be a parent are invalid.
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The only people most people love unconditionally is their chilldren. They owe no such assurances to anyone else. I think sweeping statements that claim to know who is/isn’t fit to be a parent are invalid.
If I made an active attempt in stopping your young child in feeling pride for being who they are, would you say I’d be ready for my own kids? Or would you think I’m a bit of a cruel nutter.
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The only people most people love unconditionally is their chilldren. They owe no such assurances to anyone else. I think sweeping statements that claim to know who is/isn’t fit to be a parent are invalid.
But parents with staunchly homophobic views regularly disown gay children. That is not unconditional love....that is conditional love. They may have been perfect loving parents but a revelation of sexuality will see them cut their kids off.
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But parents with staunchly homophobic views regularly disown gay children. That is not unconditional love....that is conditional love. They may have been perfect loving parents but a revelation of sexuality will see them cut their kids off.
Most parents these days accept their kids no matter what , of course they'll always be parent's who find it difficult to come to terms with or they might not like it at first.

It's usually people with very strict views that would "disown" their kids . And even then would they really disown them? or is it just the idea of the marriage that puts them off? .
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But parents with staunchly homophobic views regularly disown gay children. That is not unconditional love....that is conditional love. They may have been perfect loving parents but a revelation of sexuality will see them cut their kids off.
I did say most. I personally would never turn my back on my children. I would prefer my children weren’t gay - but if they were I would love them the same.
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