[Greg!]

Originally Posted by armand.kay

At least they get to roam around and enjoy their lives before being mauled rather than being killed as an infant or fattened up and killed a few years later

Before they're killed by a quick electric blow to the head cows etc get to roam around fields anyway tho which is what they would do in the wild? (Even though they don't live in the wild anymore anyway and would die out if they were stopped being bred for food/milk)

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Do people get this romanticised view of the animal kingdom from Snow White or...?

Exactly. I’d have more respect for more vegetarians if I didn’t think it was rooted in weak sentimentality for the most part.

[armand.kay]

Originally Posted by Redway

Carnivore jokes are even more dead so it’s draw-draw where that argument goes. Why’s it alright for Jessica to make dry jokes about meat-eaters but not vice versa, hm?

Can't really say I've seen many carnivore jokes

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Do people get this romanticised view of the animal kingdom from Snow White or...?

No sure probably the same place they get this idealised view of farm animals having a goood old time in an open field before strolling into the Slaughter house so they can finally fulfil their dreams of becoming a burger.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by armand.kay

Can't really say I've seen many carnivore jokes



No sure probably the same place they get this idealised view of farm animals having a goood old time in an open field before strolling into the Slaughter house so they can finally fulfil their dreams of becoming a burger.

“You have to season chicken because it’s disgusting.”

I take that as a lame-arse joke in itself. Especially coming from a guy like you.

[Vicky.]

Wow people get ever so worked up on the topic of what other people eat don't they. I genuinely don't care, as long as its not shoved in my face. Though I have never ever had a meat eater shove their beliefs down my throat, where a fair few vegetarian friends will just drone on and on and on about how evil I am for finding meat ****ing tasty!

[armand.kay]

Originally Posted by Redway

“You have to season chicken because it’s disgusting.”

I take that as a lame-arse joke in itself. Especially coming from a guy like you.

I can't be hilarious all the time. Im only human.

Also guy like me?

[Marsh.]

Yeah, be vegetarian/vegan out of choice, health or for the environment but when people try to guilt or shame meat eaters because of, as you say, sentimental reasons it becomes rather silly IMO.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by armand.kay

No sure probably the same place they get this idealised view of farm animals having a goood old time in an open field before strolling into the Slaughter house so they can finally fulfil their dreams of becoming a burger.

Meat eaters don't generally beam with pride or drone on about being meat eaters so not sure where you got this fiction from.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by armand.kay

I can't be hilarious all the time. Im only human.

Also guy like me?

I just think it’s funny how a black guy can say chicken’s disgusting. You’re not serious at all are you.

And if you admit to the first bit then don’t call out other people’s vegetarian jokes as unfunny either.

[Jase.]

I eat meat AND smoke. I'm doomed girls!

[Elliot]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Meat eaters don't generally beam with pride or drone on about being meat eaters so not sure where you got this fiction from.

I wonder why they don’t advertise their way of living.. must be because their lifestyle is healthy, good for the enviroment, good for animals

[armand.kay]

Originally Posted by Redway

I just think it’s funny how a black guy can say chicken’s disgusting. You’re not serious at all are you.

And if you admit to the first bit then don’t call out other people’s vegetarian jokes as unfunny either.

1st of all why would I a vegan of 3+ find chicken tasty, 2 did I not even say unseasoned chicken? Finally the whole black people love chicken thing is a mess because chicken is universally liked it's not just a black thing. It's not even a meat thats really used in my culture as people from Rwanda prefer beef with it being primarily made up of cattle herders. So you can miss me with the whole black thing.

Also I never said vegetarian jokes are unfunny, I just said they don't bother me because 9/10 I've probably heard that same joke countless times before. Clearly my joke bothered you though because you seem really heated.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Elliot

I wonder why they don’t advertise their way of living.. must be because their lifestyle is healthy, good for the enviroment, good for animals

On the other hand it could just be because meat-eaters are the majority and don’t need to prove their relevance by preaching and shaming.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by armand.kay

1st of all why would I a vegan of 3+ find chicken tasty, 2 did I not even say unseasoned chicken? Finally the whole black people love chicken thing is a mess because chicken is universally liked it's not just a black thing. It's not even a meat thats really used in my culture as people from Rwanda with it being made up of primarily cattle herders. So you can miss me with the whole black thing.

Also I never said vegetarian jokes are unfunny, I just said they don't bother me because 9/10 I've probably heard that same joke countless times before. Clearly my joke bothered you though because you seem really heated.

[armand.kay]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Meat eaters don't generally beam with pride or drone on about being meat eaters so not sure where you got this fiction from.

When did I say meet eaters beam with pride? I was just pointing out the messy propaganda on a lot of meat and dairy products that make out the cows and farm animals are just having a blast on their lil farm.

Also theres literally posts in here saying they would rather die then eat meat

[Redway]

Originally Posted by armand.kay

1st of all why would I a vegan of 3+ find chicken tasty, 2 did I not even say unseasoned chicken? Finally the whole black people love chicken thing is a mess because chicken is universally liked it's not just a black thing. It's not even a meat thats really used in my culture as people from Rwanda with it being made up of primarily cattle herders. So you can miss me with the whole black thing.

Also I never said vegetarian jokes are unfunny, I just said they don't bother me because 9/10 I've probably heard that same joke countless times before. Clearly my joke bothered you though because you seem really heated.

You can either be pedantic about it for the sake of stock counter-arguments or take my post for what it is. Either way you know what I’m saying really.

Enjoy your rabbit food. Don’t shame meat-eaters with primary school arguments.

[armand.kay]

Originally Posted by Redway

-cough-weak sentimentality-cough

Enjoy your rabbit food. Don’t shame meat-eaters with primary school arguments.

Ah yes back in primary school when we use to debate about the damaging effect mass meat production has had on our environment or have frank discussions about the ethics of the meat and dairy industry as it stands. Urgh, those were the days. Take me back to being 9

[Redway]

I didn’t know it was unnatural and unethical for cows to be milked.

[armand.kay]

Originally Posted by Redway

You can either be pedantic about it for the sake of stock counter-arguments or take my post for what it is. Either way you know what I’m saying really.

You always say that in discussions "you know what I'm saying" and I'll be honest with you I really don't know what you're saying, either elaborate or just leave the whole black thing out of it because clearly my experience as a black person isn't identical to yours.

[Redway]

I know that you know what I’m saying deep down so I’m not even going there.

You’re allowed your lifestyle but you should have as much respect for carnivores as you expect them to have for you. That’s the crux of it.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Redway

I didn’t know it was unnatural and unethical for cows to be milked.

I'm not one to preach on this, I'm not vegan just vegetarian so far but you're burying your head in the sand if you think that the dairy industry is natural and ethical. Educate yourself.

[michael21]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I'm not one to preach on this, I'm not vegan just vegetarian so far but you're burying your head in the sand if you think that the dairy industry is natural and ethical. Educate yourself.

[armand.kay]

Originally Posted by Redway

I didn’t know it was unnatural and unethical for cows to be milked.

It's not really my job to tell people what is and what isn't ethical but a lot of people really don't know what goes into getting their food to them and It's my opinion that if more people were 100% aware they would at least consider cutting down on the amount they consume.

Also whether you drink milk or not theres no arguing that drinking another animals milk isn't very natural seeing as nature intended for that milk to go to their babies. Theres a reason so many people are lactose intolerant.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by michael21

I know you probably don’t even know what this thread’s about but just chose to react to anything involving me being countered so you’re not bothering me kid.

[armand.kay]

Originally Posted by Redway

I know that you know what I’m saying deep down so I’m not even going there.

You’re allowed your lifestyle but you should have as much respect for carnivores as you expect them to have for you. That’s the crux of it.

I really have no clue what you're saying, so be frank or don't bring it up at all. I don't think you understand how annoying it is trying to engage in a discussion over the internet, with someone who constantly expects you to read between the lines.

Show me where I disrespected anyone for eating meat?