[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

tbf that hasn't started without a reason, Islam happens to be the only major religion with terrorist fundamentalists operating at the moment. However misguided, public backlash is understandable.

That's not remotely correct. However, I'm not a fan of terrorism top trumps so I'll just point out that anyone believing they are receiving orders directly from a god, is automatically much more dangerous than a guy worried about earthly concerns.

[thesheriff443]

If I put a gun to some ones head and said will your religion stop this bullet blowing your brains out, regardless of what religion it is, the the facts will speak for themselves after the trigger has been pulled.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I despise religion equally but will stand up for one if I think people are hypocritical in picking and choosing which religions to hate when they've all inspired similar tragedies and crimes across the ages.

The truth is, if you wear a crucifix out in public, you are not really likely to be harassed in any way, if a muslim wears a burkha or other religious clothes then they have more of a chance of being victimised than a christian would on the grounds of their religion.

That all depends on what areas of a city you walk about in.....on both sides.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

If I put a gun to some ones head and said will your religion stop this bullet blowing your brains out, regardless of what religion it is, the the facts will speak for themselves after the trigger has been pulled.

To be fair I think it's a fair assumption to make that all would say no, no my religion will not stop that bullet from killing me..

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by parmnion

To be fair I think it's a fair assumption to make that all would say no, no my religion will not stop that bullet from killing me..

So that makes all religions worth the same nothing.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

So that makes all religions worth the same nothing.

Religion isn't magic it's a belief by some , we all know a belief in religion would not stop a bullet to the head from killing someone, whatever religion one follows

[Greg!]

Maybe Mary was accidentally artificially inseminated like Jane the virgin

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

That's not remotely correct.

then correct me

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

then correct me

There's the Ugandan lords resistance army, responsible for the rape, murder, and displacement of over 100,000 people.

We have Christian militias in central Africa partaking in ethnic cleansing of Muslims after destroying all the mosques.

The FBI and nearly 400 other agencies have stated the white, christian, right wing terrorism is the biggest domestic threat they are facing,

The KKK is a white, christian, terrorist organisation currently recruiting record numbers.

White, Christian, nationalist, terrorists are growing at a faster pace on the internet than isis according to a US law enforcement study (US law enforcement leans heavily to the right)

The Phineas priesthood - a US group known for bombing abortion clinics,

Concerned Christians is an Israeli terrorist org committed to the conversion of all Jews.

That's just a few for starters. I could point out loads of "lone wolf" type of Christian terrorism that has been increasing for years, but what's the point, as Muslims are never treated as "lone wolves"

There are more out there but just to give a quick, brief example to highlight that Christian terrorism is alive and well, and actually on the rise. I hate to even provide this information because it doesn't add anything to the discussion. All religions are equally absurd, and magical thinking and belief you are fulfilling the wishes of a deity lends itself rather to easily to abhorrent acts of terror.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

So that makes all religions worth the same nothing.

No, not at all.


Religion is very valuable to people who believe as they trudge their way through life..a belief in God and a greater place will have kept many many people going when everything around them has turned to ****.

You would be surprised how life events can make you think twice about God. ..almost to the point of praying every night that there is this better place and there is this God looking after us after our time on earth.

[Twosugars]

Thank you for providing this info, Slim Reaper.
I don't want to defend it, but imo religion is a convenient excuse, an useful banner to rally around. The root of the problem is intolerance and political interests. Not to mention human nature which too often tries to isolate, reject and destroy those deemed as different.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Religion isn't magic it's a belief by some , we all know a belief in religion would not stop a bullet to the head from killing someone, whatever religion one follows

So you might as well believe in Father Christmas

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

So you might as well believe in Father Christmas

All he offers is occasional gifts, not a comprehensive belief of the world with eternal salvation at the end.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by parmnion

No, not at all.


Religion is very valuable to people who believe as they trudge their way through life..a belief in God and a greater place will have kept many many people going when everything around them has turned to ****.

You would be surprised how life events can make you think twice about God. ..almost to the point of praying every night that there is this better place and there is this God looking after us after our time on earth.

A mother drowned her little girl in the bath as a sacrifice to religion recently.

Some find answers in the bible some in a bottle of booze some in a crack pipe

People look to religion when they can’t make sense of the world around them

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

All he offers is occasional gifts, not a comprehensive belief of the world with eternal salvation at the end.

To believe in heaven you have to believe in hell.

Does an innocent child that’s raped tortured and then killed find eternal happiness and that of their family.

Does the kids killet rot in hell, no he is kept in the warm and dry fed and give access to arts crafts material to learn and if he does get hurt he gets the right to sue the tax payer for his mistreatment

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

A mother drowned her little girl in the bath as a sacrifice to religion recently.

Some find answers in the bible some in a bottle of booze some in a crack pipe

People look to religion when they can’t make sense of the world around them

the mother was clearly not mentally well

the other two statements are totes correct.
Religion is very attractive as it takes cares of existential worries and provides protection (theoretical of course).
Not everybody is prepared to accept the big fat unknowns of why we're here, where we came from and where we going.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

A mother drowned her little girl in the bath as a sacrifice to religion recently.

Some find answers in the bible some in a bottle of booze some in a crack pipe

People look to religion when they can’t make sense of the world around them

I don't see why you seem to have such an issue with people believing in religion or God if they use it as a comfort!..to mock them for believing shows a rather uncaring side Imo.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by parmnion

I don't see why you seem to have such an issue with people believing in religion or God if they use it as a comfort!..to mock them for believing shows a rather uncaring side Imo.

See that’s were you are so wrong people can believe in what they like it does not bother me and more so what ever religion they believe in!

I have an opinion, if not my fault if people take offence with my opinion I’m not in any way taking offence by anyone’s beliefs

[Beso]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

See that’s were you are so wrong people can believe in what they like it does not bother me and more so what ever religion they believe in!

I have an opinion, if not my fault if people take offence with my opinion I’m not in any way taking offence by anyone’s beliefs

Yeah but to say or tell them they would be just as well believing in santa clause, to.me sounds like you are mocking them for their beliefs....you don't get believers mocking non believers on this forum do you.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Yeah but to say or tell them they would be just as well believing in santa clause, to.me sounds like you are mocking them for their beliefs....you don't get believers mocking non believers on this forum do you.

How would that even look?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

If I put a gun to some ones head and said will your religion stop this bullet blowing your brains out, regardless of what religion it is, the the facts will speak for themselves after the trigger has been pulled.

What a stupid comment.

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

A mother drowned her little girl in the bath as a sacrifice to religion recently.

Some find answers in the bible some in a bottle of booze some in a crack pipe

People look to religion when they can’t make sense of the world around them

The mother said she heard voices telling her to do it.....that's not religion, that is mental illness

[Jessica.]

I think Mary was only 14 when she was pregnant which is actually quite sad, girls probably weren't educated very well back then either. It's possible that she really didn't know how pregnancy happened and that it was a complete accident. Joseph did the right thing if he was the one who got her pregnant. The story of god/angels obviously isn't real but it worked for all of them so I'm not going to judge.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Yeah but to say or tell them they would be just as well believing in santa clause, to.me sounds like you are mocking them for their beliefs....you don't get believers mocking non believers on this forum do you.

If you want to take some ones opinion on a big brother forum as personal then that says more about them than me.

I’m not asking any one to like or accept my opinion, it’s just my opinion.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

What a stupid comment.

Look every one, the troll is back, adding nothing as usual just another passive aggressive comment.