[Redway]

Originally Posted by parmnion

ya cheeky wee monkey.

Look at this guy.

[Tony Montana]

Originally Posted by Redway

What’s this clown even saying?

Leave TS alone

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Redway

What’s this clown even saying?

... ... ... ... ... Did you not end up disappearing with your tail between your legs the last time we got into it, Redway?

It's ok, I get it. "You're very angry about stuff and everyone needs to know", whether we're interested or not, apparently.

Anyway, since I'm not sure exactly who you were asking, I'll clarify for myself:


This clown is saying that the video unfortunately starts too late, and ends too early, to give an overview of what actually happened from start to finish and it is a shame that recent events have shown that context is important, and that it's naive to think otherwise. I'm not calling the guy who made the video a liar - like I said, there being others audible also saying they were being racist seems to confirm that they were being - but the video in itself is simply not enough to be certain.

I'm sure you're still angry about that explanation but I also don't care so

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

... ... ... ... ... Did you not end up disappearing with your tail between your legs the last time we got into it, Redway?

It's ok, I get it. "You're very angry about stuff and everyone needs to know", whether we're interested or not, apparently.

Anyway, since I'm not sure exactly who you were asking, I'll clarify for myself:


This clown is saying that the video unfortunately starts too late, and ends too early, to give an overview of what actually happened from start to finish and it is a shame that recent events have shown that context is important, and that it's naive to think otherwise. I'm not calling the guy who made the video a liar - like I said, there being others audible also saying they were being racist seems to confirm that they were being - but the video in itself is simply not enough to be certain.

I'm sure you're still angry about that explanation but I also don't care so

LOL.

[Northern Monkey]

I think I responded too soon.

Now i have actually watched the video there is nothing to actually suggest he was being racist.
All we saw were a group of lads stood there.The lad in the blue top had presumably been doing the monkey impression before the vid started rolling and had stopped.

Then the ‘victim’ asks him to do it again for his social media.So he does.

There is absolutely no evidence to suggest it was meant to be racist.
It could have been but it just as easily could not have been.
Without seeing what happened before nobody knows.

[Tom4784]

I hate that people think that saying the words 'Jussie Smollett' is some kind of magical spell to banish claims of racism.

Says it all, really.

[Alf]

I have to just put up with things that offend me, there is nothing I can do.

Verbal abuse of my Queen offends me, what can I do about it? Being called a bigot offends me, what can I do about it? Being called a troll offends me, What can I do about it? Calling my countries war time hero Mr Churchill horrible names offends me, what can I do about it.

I just have to take it, smile and get on with life.

I have no privilege.

[Matthew.]

Originally Posted by Alf

I have to just put up with things that offend me, there is nothing I can do.

Verbal abuse of my Queen offends me, what can I do about it? Being called a bigot offends me, what can I do about it? Being called a troll offends me, What can I do about it? Calling my countries war time hero Mr Churchill horrible names offends me, what can I do about it.

I just have to take it, smile and get on with life.

I have no privilege.

Are you seriously comparing disrepecting the monarchy/Winston Churchill or being called out as a troll/bigot to racism?

[Beso]

Someone post a video that shows an Asian man abusing a white woman on a train to make it 1 each ffs.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Condescending.
I have watched the video...it’s apparent that the guy imitating a monkey had done it previously prompting the man with the phone to call him and do it again. When he called them they turned as though they didn’t know he was there imo..but I could be wrong. The idiot then granted the guys wishes and imitated a monkey for him to video. The idiot was clearly drunk because it’s a pathetic thing to do for whatever reason...it could have been racially motivated..it could have been just a stupid piss head larking around...
If the guy filming was being racially antagonised why would he encourage him to do it again and film him...it proves nothing unless it’s off the cuff.

It could be blatant racism...it could be just drunken stupidity..

Why can't it be both???

[Elliot]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Why can't it be both???

It can’t be racism because people simply aren’t racist xd

Some posters are shocked to the knee jerk reaction to some of their comments. We can have a discussion and bring nuance to something like this but that’s hard when it’s the same like 3 posters that’s first reaction is to try and defend racism to like anything in the same bait-ey fashion.

[Tony Montana]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Why can't it be both???

Yeah it could be both tbh

[JerseyWins]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Condescending.
I have watched the video...it’s apparent that the guy imitating a monkey had done it previously prompting the man with the phone to call him and do it again. When he called them they turned as though they didn’t know he was there imo..but I could be wrong. The idiot then granted the guys wishes and imitated a monkey for him to video. The idiot was clearly drunk because it’s a pathetic thing to do for whatever reason...it could have been racially motivated..it could have been just a stupid piss head larking around...
If the guy filming was being racially antagonised why would he encourage him to do it again and film him...it proves nothing unless it’s off the cuff.

It could be blatant racism...it could be just drunken stupidity..

It proves that he did indeed do it because the guy knew what he was talking about and then did it again. And he wanted him to do it again to get proof of it on camera which I think is fine.

It's a bit debatable whether the guy originally did it with racist intentions because sure he maybe could've just been drunk and randomly making monkey noises. However, when asked to do it again, the way he comes at the black guy while making the noises looks VERY patronizing/belittling/flat out racist so... it seems pretty racist