[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

How do they contribute out of season? They don't visit out of season.

The op mentioned the lack of diversity and the attraction of the middle aged I'm suggesting this is an example of that.

They contribute to making tourist resorts ghost towns out of season

Maybe it’s a middle aged past time? don’t see too many club owners moaning there aren’t enough old people going lol ...

[Cherie]

I wonder if anyone has actually surveyed the audience they want to attract to understand the reason for them not visiting ...probably not

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Cherie

If you read the article...the LD is not attracting young people...it didn’t specify of what ethnicity so I expect all colours, as well as ethnic minority’s and those with disabilities, there are a myriad of reasons imo...cost, accessibility, not enough attractions other than hiking/walking, not enough advertising of what is on offer, few clubs, bars, shops, so very little to do with racism in my view but more to do with not being of interest to that audience

Your first thought is Racism, if they aren’t going there how would they know the locals were racist

We go to Cornwall often and there are young (and diverse) walkers doing trails and the SW Coast Path.

Idgi why LD is not attracting them

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by jet

How rude.

People are allowed to be rude, it's not a crime But sometimes my expectations are too high, silly me

[Strictly Jake]

The lake district doesnt need rowdy pubs and clubs to attract young people

The lake district, very close to me actually, is a beautiful scenic place and in fact places they have tried to make more tourist friendly such as windermere have lost a lot of the beautiful magic

There isnt much to do if your not in to walking, having picnics and admiring the gorgeous views so if that isnt your thing maybe try blackpool, liverpool or manchester

As for me I have loved visiting it since being a baby and I dont want it spoilt by chavvy tourism

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

We go to Cornwall often and there are young (and diverse) walkers doing trails and the SW Coast Path.

Idgi why LD is not attracting them

Cornwall attracts the surfing crowd plus it has some very clubby towns like Newquay

[smudgie]

Must have changed one hell of a lot the last couple of years.
A lot of the caravan parks are open and pretty full The 10 months they are open.
The tourers are mainly people with young families.
The statics on ours had kids and teens visiting and staying all through as well.
The main towns and the actual Lakes don’t need to advertise..you can’t move in season.
I am not saying you can climb the fells in a wheelchair, but there is still plenty to see and do, and all are made very welcome in my experience.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Holiday homes being snapped up by out of towners happens everywhere, Cornwall, Devon, Wales, Norfolk...so why would it be an issue just in the LD

Who said LD is the only place with the issue?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by jet

It isn't.
I know a Muslim family who holiday in the Lake District for a week every year. They must love being made to feel unwelcome.
Its utter nonsense.

Well Oliver has a black next door neighbour who drives a nice car, so there.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by jet

A typical leftie trait...labelling people and putting them in neat little categories. Narrow mindedness of the first order.

You literally just used ONE Muslim family as an example of why racism doesn't exist. So let's not with the generalisations.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

You literally just used ONE Muslim family as an example of why racism doesn't exist. So let's not with the generalisations.

Have you got any examples to show that the LD might be racist?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Have you got any examples to show that the LD might be racist?

Am I Richard Leafe now?

Have you got any to show that it isn't?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

They contribute to making tourist resorts ghost towns out of season

Maybe it’s a middle aged past time? don’t see too many club owners moaning there aren’t enough old people going lol ...

Well yes they do thats kind of my point, I'm surprised you find it so funny. Buying a second property may be a middle aged pastime? Maybe not pastime but they are more likely to have the means certainly.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by jet

A typical leftie trait...labelling people and putting them in neat little categories. Narrow mindedness of the first order.

So you are complaining I'm being rude in a post by being rude to me? ...ok jet.

How about you comment on the topic and save the baiting for another time?

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Cornwall attracts the surfing crowd plus it has some very clubby towns like Newquay

Should have specified I meant southern Cornwall, falmouth and the Lizzard. Also Penzance and newlyn. No surfing culture there, just walkers.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Strictly Jake

The lake district doesnt need rowdy pubs and clubs to attract young people

The lake district, very close to me actually, is a beautiful scenic place and in fact places they have tried to make more tourist friendly such as windermere have lost a lot of the beautiful magic

There isnt much to do if your not in to walking, having picnics and admiring the gorgeous views so if that isnt your thing maybe try blackpool, liverpool or manchester

As for me I have loved visiting it since being a baby and I dont want it spoilt by chavvy tourism

Strangely that's why Wordsworth didn't want the railways going to the lakes, he didn't want them bringing the great unwashed... don't you just love Victorian attitudes?....

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Am I Richard Leafe now?

Have you got any to show that it isn't?

You can't prove a negative. The default position is that there isn't rife racism, so unless there's evidence for some existing, we can safely assume there isn't any

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

You can't prove a negative. The default position is that there isn't rife racism, so unless there's evidence for some existing, we can safely assume there isn't any

So because someone who didn't make a point about racism to begin with doesn't provide an example it means any claims of racism is false? What a fallacy.

You claiming there is none, with zero back up doesn't prove or disprove anything either.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Should have specified I meant southern Cornwall, falmouth and the Lizzard. Also Penzance and newlyn. No surfing culture there, just walkers.

So the white people in Cornwall aren’t racist lol...they must be congregated in the LD ...people like the coast, it offers a lot for all ages

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Well yes they do thats kind of my point, I'm surprised you find it so funny. Buying a second property may be a middle aged pastime? Maybe not pastime but they are more likely to have the means certainly.

I found it funny you missed my point yet again...but no matter...And no I didn’t mean buying a second property is a pastime Jesus H Christ i literally give up

[Marsh.]

Not Cherie owning a whole street by Bowness?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Not Cherie owning a whole street by Bowness?

Keeps me out of mischief

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Cherie

So the white people in Cornwall aren’t racist lol...they must be congregated in the LD ...people like the coast, it offers a lot for all ages

You lol all you like.
The fact remains it is the LD that has the problem not Cornwall.
As a seafaring province Cornwall has always had contact with all nationalities and races.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

You literally just used ONE Muslim family as an example of why racism doesn't exist. So let's not with the generalisations.

Typical. Some lefties jump like delighted fleas on anything they can make a sentence out of with 'racism' in it - as long as its the 'right' kind of racism of course.

You didn't comment on Kizzy's awful generalisation of calling people 'Thatchers youth - aging racist yuppies'. Seems you don't mind ageism and narrow mindedness - as long as its the 'right' person saying it, of course.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

So you are complaining I'm being rude in a post by being rude to me? ...ok jet.

How about you comment on the topic and save the baiting for another time?

If you are going to call older people 'aging racist yuppies' then don't act all offended when someone reacts to your baiting.