[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Just listening to LBC radio .. many are supporting the idea of “televised learning’ as opposed to online learning .. they do it on other countries apparently.

Just needs the government to commandeer some tv channels..maybe all the BBC ones ??

A few for primary schools , one each for years 7 through to 11 , another for colleges .... seems outlandish but it it’s done elsewhere who knows ??

Supposedly a high % of pupils struggled with getting online but everyone has a telly ..


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We've done it here for years, I remember 'words and pictures' (English) ' how we used to live' (History) my kids watched 'come outside' and ' El Nombre' there's tons of educational programming.
One of the best things ever was old sesame street, not even joking fantastic learning tool that was.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

We've done it here for years, I remember 'words and pictures' (English) ' how we used to live' (History) my kids watched 'come outside' and ' El Nombre' there's tons of educational programming.

One of the best things ever was old sesame street, not even joking fantastic learning tool that was.

Well off the top of my head there’s BBC BiteSize ... and as I said everyone has a telly ( and a mobile to organise/coordinate things ) .

https://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize


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[Ammi]

..Zizu, there is a petition atm about schools not going back...I don’t know if you were sent a link to it, being school staff...

[AnnieK]

I'm a little torn over schools. I personally think they should close for a little while but my 10 year old is desperate to get back. He finds the home learning tedious and misses his friends. The last lockdown seriously affected him, he became anxious and terribly nervy and clingy. On the other hand if he does go back, I know I will have to stay away from my Dad as he is in the vulnerable group. I just wish there was an answer now so I can prepare for whatever happens

[Ammi]

...it makes sense to me that as the second dose vaccination is being extended to a longer time, that it should and would follow that other ‘delays’ would work alongside that as well as the speed of the virus has accelerated so much and more and more young cases/children are being hospitalised with the virus...

[MTVN]

How many parents are relying on schools being open tomorrow for them to go to work, especially in tier 3 areas. Surely they can't just announce they are keeping them closed now on a Sunday less than 24 hours before the new term

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Word on the (nursing and medical) street is that this is largely completely untrue and this lady is probably in a bit of hot water. She's part of a group of political activists within nursing who are operating with an agenda. Complete mess, but don't listen to ANYTHING that isn't actually verified.

As a follow up to this:

Doctors have sought to reassure parents that there has been no increase in the severity of Covid-19 cases among children because of the new variant.

The Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health (RCPCH) said children's wards are not seeing any "significant pressure" from Covid-19.

It comes after a London hospital matron told BBC Radio 5 Live of having a ward full of children with coronavirus.

Laura Duffel said the surge in cases was "much scarier" than the first wave.

Ms Duffel, who has been working on Covid wards since the beginning of the UK's epidemic and specialises in children's intensive care, told 5 Live's Chiles on Friday show that people were "wrong" to say busy hospitals were merely a reflection of normal winter pressures on the NHS.

"This wave has just hit us so fast. It's literally in the space of a week that this has gotten so bad," she said.

"It's very different and I think that's what makes it so much scarier for us. We have children who are coming in. It was minimally affecting children in the first wave - [but now] we have a whole ward of children here [and] 20- and 30-year-olds with no underlying conditions are coming in."

However, doctors denied that the virus is putting significant additional pressure on children's wards across the country.

Virus is rife - 'but not among children'
Prof Russell Viner, president of the RCPCH, said: "Children's wards are usually busy in winter. As of now we are not seeing significant pressure from Covid-19 in paediatrics across the UK.

"As cases in the community rise there will be a small increase in the number of children we see with Covid-19, but the overwhelming majority of children and young people have no symptoms or very mild illness only.

"The new variant appears to affect all ages and, as yet, we are not seeing any greater severity amongst children and young people."

Dr Ronny Cheung, a consultant paediatrician at Evelina Children's Hospital, in London, added: "I've been the on-call consultant in a London children's hospital this week. Covid is rife in hospitals, but not among children - and that is corroborated by my colleagues across London."

Prof Calum Semple said that he spoke to colleagues on intensive care units and "not one of them has seen a surge in sick children coming into critical care and we're not hearing of a rise in cases in the wards either".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55518248

[bots]

i think we should note information we hear but not react hysterically. One persons view/experience doesn't make something true.

I think the strategy of closing schools in tier 4 for at least a little bit longer is a sensible approach as those areas need significant down pressure on the virus. I certainly don't think students should be going back any time soon. Lets do a gradual opening and see how it goes

[Ammi]

...I don’t understand how other changes can be announced, u turned, changed, re-arranged at very little notice because of certain unpredictability's which have to be adapted to for safety ..but it can’t apply in the same way with schools...it wouldn’t be such a ‘sudden announcement’ anyway, as there is constant communication (daily in many cases..)...with parents and schools and discussing these things on their forums...

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..Zizu, there is a petition atm about schools not going back...I don’t know if you were sent a link to it, being school staff...

Yes .. thanks


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[Zizu]

Originally Posted by MTVN

As a follow up to this:



Doctors have sought to reassure parents that there has been no increase in the severity of Covid-19 cases among children because of the new variant.



The Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health (RCPCH) said children's wards are not seeing any "significant pressure" from Covid-19.



It comes after a London hospital matron told BBC Radio 5 Live of having a ward full of children with coronavirus.



Laura Duffel said the surge in cases was "much scarier" than the first wave.



Ms Duffel, who has been working on Covid wards since the beginning of the UK's epidemic and specialises in children's intensive care, told 5 Live's Chiles on Friday show that people were "wrong" to say busy hospitals were merely a reflection of normal winter pressures on the NHS.



"This wave has just hit us so fast. It's literally in the space of a week that this has gotten so bad," she said.



"It's very different and I think that's what makes it so much scarier for us. We have children who are coming in. It was minimally affecting children in the first wave - [but now] we have a whole ward of children here [and] 20- and 30-year-olds with no underlying conditions are coming in."



However, doctors denied that the virus is putting significant additional pressure on children's wards across the country.



Virus is rife - 'but not among children'

Prof Russell Viner, president of the RCPCH, said: "Children's wards are usually busy in winter. As of now we are not seeing significant pressure from Covid-19 in paediatrics across the UK.



"As cases in the community rise there will be a small increase in the number of children we see with Covid-19, but the overwhelming majority of children and young people have no symptoms or very mild illness only.



"The new variant appears to affect all ages and, as yet, we are not seeing any greater severity amongst children and young people."



Dr Ronny Cheung, a consultant paediatrician at Evelina Children's Hospital, in London, added: "I've been the on-call consultant in a London children's hospital this week. Covid is rife in hospitals, but not among children - and that is corroborated by my colleagues across London."



Prof Calum Semple said that he spoke to colleagues on intensive care units and "not one of them has seen a surge in sick children coming into critical care and we're not hearing of a rise in cases in the wards either".



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55518248

.... and yet according to the Birmingham’s leader Ian Lord they’ve seen Covid case rates in 5 to 14 yrs olds DOUBLE over the last 3 weeks ... he’s adamant that once the new variant is in schools it will spreads like wildfire


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[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Zizu

.... and yet according to the Birmingham’s leader Ian Lord they’ve seen Covid case rates in 5 to 14 yrs olds DOUBLE over the last 3 weeks ... he’s adamant that once the new variant is in schools it will spreads like wildfire


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Case rates maybe, that doesn't translate to 'hospital wards full of children suffering from Covid'

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Zizu

.... and yet according to the Birmingham’s leader Ian Lord they’ve seen Covid case rates in 5 to 14 yrs olds DOUBLE over the last 3 weeks ... he’s adamant that once the new variant is in schools it will spreads like wildfire


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Which in effect means the children may well be infecting loads of other people.

I understand the schooling issues however most in my family with children would prefer schools closed for a period longer than just the Christmas break.

So I stand with them.

[arista]

Johnson PM on Marr. BBC1HD
Said the Fast Test is Great?

But getting them done in every school,
is not going to happen.

[bots]

Boris is preparing the ground for making tier 4 tougher, which can only really mean schools closing

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Boris is preparing the ground for making tier 4 tougher, which can only really mean schools closing

Schools definitely need to close.
It's just not safe at the moment.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Case rates maybe, that doesn't translate to 'hospital wards full of children suffering from Covid'

No but the infection will spread through children home to their families which will translate to more hospital cases and deaths ..


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[Zizu]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Boris is preparing the ground for making tier 4 tougher, which can only really mean schools closing

I can see us ( schools) all going back for 2 to 3 weeks .. . the infection rates fuelled by the new variant will go through the roof , we’ll see far higher daily infection rates ( scarily high) then schools will have to be closed until after Feb half term ( apart from key worker and vulnerable kids)


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[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Schools definitely need to close.

It's just not safe at the moment.

Apparently Brighton infections are 500% up since early December so this isn’t going to just go away over a few weeks


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[user104658]

As far as I know all Scottish schools are off until the 18th at least and that was announced ages ago... I haven't really seen many complaints about it. I think saying "schools are shut for the foreseeable!" is too much, some concrete answers are needed, however I don't know why there's been such a push back in England over just extending the Christmas break by a couple of weeks.

[bots]

the interesting thing about a variant with a high infection rate is that an equally rapid decrease in infection rate also becomes more likely if people adhere to the guidelines

[arista]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

As far as I know all Scottish schools are off until the 18th at least and that was announced ages ago... I haven't really seen many complaints about it. I think saying "schools are shut for the foreseeable!" is too much, some concrete answers are needed, however I don't know why there's been such a push back in England over just extending the Christmas break by a couple of weeks.

Yes Lucky Scotland.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Apparently Brighton infections are 500% up since early December so this isn’t going to just go away over a few weeks

Yes many are hoping for a U Turn today

[arista]

Originally Posted by MTVN

How many parents are relying on schools being open tomorrow for them to go to work, especially in tier 3 areas. Surely they can't just announce they are keeping them closed now on a Sunday less than 24 hours before the new term

Yes they can
it will put people out
but also stop those kids taking Covid-19 Variant
back home to an older person.

[arista]

If only every school made all kids have a mask on.