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Old 07-10-2021, 11:21 AM #76
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I have a meter. It's so much cheaper.
1) it isn't cheaper, per-unit prices are literally always higher.

2) the prices (how much energy you get per £1 on your card) are still dictated by the market.


The only benefit of a pay-as-you-go meter is that you have no unexpected bills, and can control your spend.
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1) it isn't cheaper, per-unit prices are literally always higher.

2) the prices (how much energy you get per £1 on your card) are still dictated by the market.


The only benefit of a pay-as-you-go meter is that you have no unexpected bills, and can control your spend.
Yes, I prefer it. No bills.
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I was lucky enough to have my previous plan expire literally 2 weeks before all of this began and got on a 12 month fixed at that point... however, it's with a small company so they might just end up busting . That said I've been with a bust company before and the company that took over honoured any fixed plans that were in place.

Thankfull we use **** all in terms of gas, like £40 a month and that's with a gas cooker (both hob and oven, and we cook frequently). If they really do go through the roof, will probably swap out for an all electric cooker, or at least an electric oven/gas hob combo, which would probably at least half our usage if not more.

Electricity also went up significantly between my last fixed term and this one though. Exaceerbated, I've realised, but us using a tonne more electricity during lockdowns 1 & 2 than normal so their estimates of our usage are way off. We had 3 desktop PC's running all day, plus my youngest was in a phase where playing in the shower was a guaranteed way to keep her amused and calm, so there were multiple days per week that she was in there for literally 2 - 3 hours (electric shower)
that is not happening now, plus electric prices will be driven up as well
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I've not used ANY gas for about four years. My electric bill per quarter is around £120. I expect that will rise quite a bite too.
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Or even a bit. But the price rises are biting. So maybe I was right the first time.
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for cooking we don't use gas for a very long time now, switched to electrical with that much safer

so we use up lesser gas than before, now just for the heater i think



but yeah it is kinda a gas crisis here in my nation, mostly for farmers who grow their crop in greenhouses and require gas for power in those (and we got very large greenhouses here)

so prices on tomatoes, lettuce, other veg can go up this winter they fear



and drilling for more gas, well lol not a option either because of moaning people in Groningen due to dangers of earthquakes there from the drilling
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[QUOTE=Nicky91;11101505]for cooking we don't use gas for a very long time now, switched to electrical with that much safer

so we use up lesser gas than before, now just for the heater i think



but yeah it is kinda a gas crisis here in my nation, mostly for farmers who grow their crop in greenhouses and require gas for power in those (and we got very large greenhouses here)

so prices on tomatoes, lettuce, other veg can go up this winter they fear



and drilling for more gas, well lol not a option either because of moaning people in Groningen due to dangers of earthquakes there from the drilling[/QUOTE]

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for cooking we don't use gas for a very long time now, switched to electrical with that much safer

so we use up lesser gas than before, now just for the heater i think



but yeah it is kinda a gas crisis here in my nation, mostly for farmers who grow their crop in greenhouses and require gas for power in those (and we got very large greenhouses here)

so prices on tomatoes, lettuce, other veg can go up this winter they fear



and drilling for more gas, well lol not a option either because of moaning people in Groningen due to dangers of earthquakes there from the drilling
it is fair they have rights to moan of course, their homes being damaged a lot

so drilling for gas just isn't possible there
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Bring back coal fires

But look at India
https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/20...g-power-crisis


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home only has Coal to use to cook
and stocks running low.

Millions in India have no Electric supply.
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Energy bills will rise to reflect soaring wholesale energy prices, the energy regulator has warned.

A price cap limits the impact of rising energy costs for customers, but Ofgem said this would increase.

Chief executive Jonathan Brearley said the cap was "designed to reflect fair costs and therefore will need to adjust over time".

Nine UK energy suppliers collapsed last month and Mr Brearley said more could follow.

"Given the continued volatility in the market, it is likely more suppliers will exit the market," he told a conference organised by Energy UK.

Natural gas prices are at record highs as economies around the world begin to recover from the Covid crisis.

As a result, firms are running into trouble because they have agreed to sell gas at less than the price it now costs them to buy it.

More than 1.7 million customers saw their energy provider go bust in September.

They have already seen annual bill increases of hundreds of pounds when they moved to a new provider and away from whichever low-rate fixed deal their supplier had offered.

Ofgem's advice to those affected is that they should wait for the regulator to appoint a new supplier and refrain from switching in the meantime.

It says customers can rely on their energy supply as normal.

The warning from Ofgem's Mr Brearley came after analysts Cornwall Insight predicted that household energy bills could rise by hundreds of pounds next year.

They said the energy price cap, which works by limiting how much firms can charge domestic customers for a unit of gas, could soar by £400 in the spring to about £1,660.

That is about 30% higher than the record £1,277 level for the cap set for winter 2021-22, which began at the start of October.

"With wholesale gas and electricity prices continuing to reach new records, successive supplier exits during September 2021 and a new level for the default tariff cap, the Great British energy market remains on edge for fresh volatility and further consolidation," said Craig Lowrey, senior consultant at Cornwall Insight.

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Pull out the woolley jumpers I think, its back to the 70s, I remember my Mom and Dad used to just heat one room and when we went to bed it was baltic I think that is why I cant sleep in a heated bedroom now, it has to be cold
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to warm your slippers?
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I use it when I'm in a rush. It's so much faster than the gas oven.
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[Here comes your £2,000 energy bill: Soaring prices
could push average annual charge
through the barrier for the first time as
Putin holds UK over a barrel and Britain braces for blackouts
Rising energy prices may push average annual
bills past £2,000 for first time - costing
many an extra £900
Industry analysts suggested current gap
of £1,277 may rise by as much as £800
as energy firms go bust
Ofgem warned its level would have to
'adjust' in April next year after rising prices
amid cost of living crisis
Vladimir Putin was accused of using gas
supply issues as leverage with Europe
to push through new pipeline]


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Having a meter is so convenient.
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