[arista]

[arista]

[arista]

[Gusto Brunt]

Originally Posted by arista

Funny how a man who's supposed to be about fair elections, kicked Tice out and said I Farage am the leader now.

No votes.

Putin would be proud.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by arista

Farage is definitely right on thing.

This Election is more boring than some of our more recent ones around it.

[arista]

[user104658]

It's an odd one. Farage, if you can say anything for him, is at the very least politically savvy so he does understand fine well that the effect of making Reform more popular is essentially further erosion of Tory seats and, as the papers say, potentially even more Lab and LibDem seats.

He simply must want the Tories to be wiped out.

I guess the reason for that might be quiet obvious - if a massive coup successfully plays out and theres an opposition vacuum...

[arista]

"He simply must want the Tories to be wiped out."


Yes blame Boris
who told Farage he would do more,
do not double-cross Farage.


Lay It On The Line

[MTVN]

The fewer Tory MPs there are the more chance Farage can style himself as the true figurehead of conservatism in the House especially if Reform do very well in the popular vote. There's a legit possibility of them then merging with the Tories and him becoming the new leader of the opposition

[user104658]

Originally Posted by MTVN

The fewer Tory MPs there are the more chance Farage can style himself as the true figurehead of conservatism in the House especially if Reform do very well in the popular vote. There's a legit possibility of them then merging with the Tories and him becoming the new leader of the opposition

That was my thought exactly MTVN - I reckon he's playing the long game to stage a coup of the opposition before 2029, and position himself for Prime Minister in 10 years time.

[bots]

yep, this is opportunism at it's finest. It's what all politicians do so it's not exactly unusual

[Crimson Dynamo]

The Mail doing all it can to not show Farage and to say vote Reform get Labour

[Crimson Dynamo]

Youtube video

[Crimson Dynamo]

The MSM feed is down so the above is live

[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

The MSM feed is down so the above is live

Convenient

[Crimson Dynamo]

that is why citizen journalism is so very important

[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

that is why citizen journalism is so very important

You seem very willing to accept the MSM reporting out of Gaza vs citizen-shot video footage though? Like I agree to an extent but it's meaningless when you pick-n-choose.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

You seem very willing to accept the MSM reporting out of Gaza vs citizen-shot video footage though? Like I agree to an extent but it's meaningless when you pick-n-choose.

Im not accepting anything I watched Nigels speech live shot independently on a phone

the MSM for "some" reason could not broadcast it

[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Im not accepting anything I watched Nigels speech live shot independently on a phone

the MSM for "some" reason could not broadcast it

You're saying that citizen journalism is important because the MSM sometimes (often, I would say) twists a narrative to fit an agenda. Obviously independent "journalists" do that too - but I wonder why you'd quote/repost MSM material as "proof" that the socially reported narrative is false if you also think that. (e.g. I'm specifically thinking of the IDF bombing "maps" posted by the MSM that you used as evidence that refugee camp bombing was a lie).

Why was the MSM reliable in that case, if they're not reliable in all cases?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

You're saying that citizen journalism is important because the MSM sometimes (often, I would say) twists a narrative to fit an agenda. Obviously independent "journalists" do that too - but I wonder why you'd quote/repost MSM material as "proof" that the socially reported narrative is false if you also think that. (e.g. I'm specifically thinking of the IDF bombing "maps" posted by the MSM that you used as evidence that refugee camp bombing was a lie).

Why was the MSM reliable in that case, if they're not reliable in all cases?

No I meant the MSM is not showing it as they had a "problem with the feed"

so thankfully it was broadcast by non MSM sources

As for the IDF stuff they show maps, and their own pics and evidence - I doubt there is any other organisation in the known world that undergoes the scrutiny they get so and its direct from Israel - no one else is batting for them or has that degree of evidence so its an important source - make of it as you will but to ignore it would be futile.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

No I meant the MSM is not showing it as they had a "problem with the feed"

so thankfully it was broadcast by non MSM sources

As for the IDF stuff they show maps, and their own pics and evidence - I doubt there is any other organisation in the known world that undergoes the scrutiny they get so and its direct from Israel - no one else is batting for them or has that degree of evidence so its an important source - make of it as you will but to ignore it would be futile.

It might be the only source, I'd argue against it being an important source though.

When someone is accused of something, the person being accused saying "Umm no I did not actually thanks very much" is not a reliable information source .

Although I suppose it's at least an internally consistent stance since you also thought "Brad says he didn't do abuse" was irrefutable proof as well .

[arista]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Youtube video

Thanks for posting it.
was in a meeting.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by arista

Thanks for posting it.
was in a meeting.

How are you not retired Arista. Surely it's time for some time off .

[arista]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

How are you not retired Arista. Surely it's time for some time off .

No.


Time Off is rare




Life In The City

[user104658]

Originally Posted by arista

No.


Time Off is rare

Not for the elderly (usually).

Or if you work from home