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Old 11-09-2025, 11:44 AM #1
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I would have to disagree. The last thing one would want to do after someone was just shot dead for expressing their free speech is to try to crack down on the rights of others to defend themselves in the rest of the country. That would go very poorly and we would find out actually it is in fact much harder to ban guns than it would be knives in the US because the political blow back would be immediate.
Great post, Maru, and true.

There are at least a dozen countries with more firearms deaths per head of capita than the USA but never make the news and disarming them all is never discussed on here.
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…it’s an horrific taking of a life …looking back a few moments ago at some vid of him just before this violent shooting, just chatting with those around him and preparing for the event etc…and obviously not realising that those would be the final moments of his life…heartbreaking/shocking …and his loved ones will replay and relive those moments with him again and again…just a senseless/mindless taking of a life….
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2 seconds from death, a father of 2



From scrappy activist to election-swinging heavyweight: no millennial (barring JD Vance) had more of an impact on the Trump-era Republican Party than Charlie Kirk. Today, in a moment that has sent shockwaves throughout the Maga movement, footage from a Utah college event showed Kirk being shot at from the crowd. The instant outpouring of support and concern for Kirk from the president and his Cabinet showed his enormous significance. Donald Trump announced his death a few hours later.

The terrible irony is that Kirk’s star rose through his willingness to place himself in the centre of nominally hostile liberal spaces


If men like Charlie Kirk can’t even speak to American students without fearing a gunman in the crowd, America is in a far more dangerous place than anyone has so far been willing to concede.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/comme...can-democracy/
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This what they destroyed today

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He died for what he believed in and that's more than what a lot of people can say.
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The left killed someone today who was exercising free speech. It wasn't hateful, it was opposing speech. I wasn't hateful, it was opposing speech.

The left once stood for free speech. Now, they're opponents of free speech. You have surpassed the historic tories, your demand to conform is now Nazi like.
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Also the shooter hasn’t even been found or identified. So the left and right angle really isn’t applicable
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Also the shooter hasn’t even been found or identified. So the left and right angle really isn’t applicable
This is true to be fair
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Have a look on Twitter if you have it. Looks like someone either knew the assassination would happen or it's the shooter himself!
He put his account to private, but people have screenshot his tweets.
He wrote that he knew it would happen
Also, you can see the sniper running on the roof after the shooting.
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The Utah Governor has said it was a targeted attack
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It’s shocking to see a young man lose his life in, yet, another gun shot. Guns need to be banned in America. Too many shootings and it will continue on. Left or right who cares, we can all agree on how this looks.

RIP Charlie.
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It’s shocking to see a young man lose his life in, yet, another gun shot. Guns need to be banned in America. Too many shootings and it will continue on. Left or right who cares, we can all agree on how this looks.

RIP Charlie.
Also kitchen knives in the UK?
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Also kitchen knives in the UK?
I too think knives to be banned from going outside. It’s harder to ban knives than it is guns though
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…some reports are now saying that the killer is in custody…

A suspect is in police custody in connection with the fatal shooting of right-wing activist Charlie Kirk, described as a “political assassination” by Utah Gov. Spencer Cox.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b2824229.html



FBI chief says suspect detained in Charlie Kirk killing

https://www.timesofisrael.com/livebl...-kirk-killing/
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"shot came from a roof"

Again..
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"shot came from a roof"

Again..
It was rumored to be a 200y shot... that means they're not going to be easy to find.
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Need headphones to hear, but wow.
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Need headphones to hear, but wow.
Love wins!
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Could be any one of us this happens to. I don't think this is going to help, though.
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Could be any one of us this happens to. I don't think this is going to help, though.
Not really, no. **** me!
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Charlie Kirk's assassin is caught by FBI after chilling video showed shadowy figure sprinting across roof following shooting: Governor vows killer will pay the ultimate price
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This is a watershed moment for the world

Never has free speech been more in jeapordy

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This is a watershed moment for the world
Yes, I think this hits more personally for some. Trump has more enemies, sure, but he also enjoys more privileges and protections than the average. So do most elected officials.
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Well 9/11 is tomorrow...
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Shocking. RIP

America is really going to sh*t huh?
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