[arista]

[bots]

The problem that the likes of Scotland, Wales, France, Germany and the Netherlands have is that if a really worrying variant comes along in the future that the people will just ignore any lockdown advice they are being given. They obviously haven't heard of crying wolf

[Crimson Dynamo]

just dont test and you wont get a pos

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by MeghansLetterToSanta

The problem that the likes of Scotland, Wales, France, Germany and the Netherlands have is that if a really worrying variant comes along in the future that the people will just ignore any lockdown advice they are being given. They obviously haven't heard of crying wolf

if people ignore lockdown advice, then they are just a bunch of trolls

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

if people ignore lockdown advice, then they are just a bunch of trolls

and those that listen to it are just sheep?

have you had 1 vaccine yet?

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by All The Jingle Ladies

and those that listen to it are just sheep?

No, those are doing fine, obeying the rules as we all should

[Nicky91]

https://nltimes.nl/2021/12/24/far-ea...ak-team-member

Netherlands: Far too early to discuss loosening lockdown, says Outbreak Team member

Early research published this week suggesting the Omicron variant of the coronavirus causes less severe symptoms of Covid-19 is positive news, said Outbreak Management Team member Marc Bonten. However, a sharp rise in the total number of infections caused by the variant could still mean far more patients require hospitalization than the Dutch healthcare system can handle, the microbiologist told Nieuwsuur.

“The chance of the very grim scenario, with thousands of patients simultaneously needing intensive care in the Netherlands, has now become much smaller, that's for sure,” he acknowledged. “That all seems very good, but if the total number of infections continues to rise so quickly, there is still a good chance that the English healthcare system will also be overrun with patients. And of course that also applies to the Netherlands.”

The number of coronavirus infections in England is continuing to double every two days, Bonten said. “If the total number of infections continues to rise so quickly, there is a real chance that the English healthcare system will become bogged down with patients.” The same could happen in the Netherlands, Bonten continued.

Early research in Amsterdam also suggested a doubling of Omicron infections every two to three days. The Omicron variant is believed to be significantly more contagious than the Delta variant, which was also spread from person to person easier than earlier iterations of the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus. The Omicron variant has already become dominant in Amsterdam, and it is expected to become dominant nationally by the end of the year.

“It is up to the Cabinet to decide what needs to be done, but if the question to the OMT is, ‘Can we safely reduce measures now, because we are out of the danger zone?’ The answer is still a very clear ‘no.’”

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

No, those are doing fine, obeying the rules as we all should

but you have not obeyed the rule of getting a vaccine i think I am correct in saying?

[arista]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ing-virus.html

[arista]

Friday 24/12/21

137 have Died
122,186 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
8,240

Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
842


147,857 total UK Deaths of Covid-19

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[arista]

Update again.
No official update on 25 and 26 December 2021

So the numbers will be back on the 27th of Dec.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by MeghansLetterToSanta

The problem that the likes of Scotland, Wales, France, Germany and the Netherlands have is that if a really worrying variant comes along in the future that the people will just ignore any lockdown advice they are being given. They obviously haven't heard of crying wolf

I agree.

[Nicky91]

Netherlands: RIVM stricter quarantaine measures against people with omicron variant and people around those infected

10 days quarantine time, even when they are vaccinated



failing to obey to these rules and you receive a 400 euro fine

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by arista

[arista]

[New Year's eve on a knife edge: PM to rule on
new restrictions on Monday as scientists
predict any new curbs on socialising
could be in place until late MARCH - while London's
daily Covid hospital admissions surge by 92%
The PM is set to review the latest Covid figures
on Monday as further restriction could
be imposed before NYE
Covid hospital admissions in London
are within touching distance of the
threshold of 400 for a lockdown
Ministers are said to be watching
admission rates in London before pulling
the trigger on more national curbs]




But the next 2 Days there are no Guide Numbers



[The modelling has not yet been seen by
ministers,
who are expected to make a decision early next week,
potentially as soon as Monday,
on extra restrictions.
The work was completed before the
latest data suggesting the Omicron variant
may produce less severe illness than the
Delta strain of coronavirus.

A consensus paper by the
Scientific Pandemic Influenza Group
on Modelling, Operational sub-group (Spi-M-O) published
today said 'rapidly enacted Step 2 measures
reduce the peak of hospital pressure to about
half its level under Plan B only'.
It also included a model examining the impact
'non-mandated behaviour change' would
have if it reduced mixing by half the amount
that Step 2 would achieve.]


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ons-surge.html

[arista]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

Netherlands: RIVM stricter quarantaine measures against people with omicron variant and people around those infected

10 days quarantine time, even when they are vaccinated



failing to obey to these rules and you receive a 400 euro fine

Yes Lay the Law down
in the Netherlands.

[Crimson Dynamo]

so that story about the recluse who died of omicron - the anti-vacc guy - the first death

was indeed bollocks

Youtube video

[arista]

But it is over 14 now
LT.

Are you saying it was not Omicron
that killed them.

https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/uk-...on-2021-12-22/

[bots]

Originally Posted by arista

But it is over 14 now
LT.

Are you saying it was not Omicron
that killed them.

https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/uk-...on-2021-12-22/

you keep quoting these figures Arista and never say if the person died with omicron or from omicron. It makes a huge difference

[arista]

Originally Posted by MeghansLetterToSanta

you keep quoting these figures Arista and never say if the person died with omicron or from omicron. It makes a huge difference

Confirmed by the UK Health Authority.


BBC news needs to find out more
we the Public are funding them.

[bots]

Originally Posted by arista

Confirmed by the UK Health Authority.


BBC news needs to find out more
we the Public are funding them.

but what was confirmed. Did they die with omicron or from omicron, you keep avoiding that when asked ... why?

[arista]

Originally Posted by MeghansLetterToSanta

but what was confirmed. Did they die with omicron or from omicron, you keep avoiding that when asked ... why?

Do not blame me,
The BBC news must update us.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by arista

But it is over 14 now
LT.

Are you saying it was not Omicron
that killed them.

https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/uk-...on-2021-12-22/

yes unless you have any proof to say it was Omicron?

[bots]

im sure 14 people will have died in the last couple of weeks that also had an std

[Alf]

Turn the news off and enjoy your Christmas.