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This whole 'the doctor should be a woman' thing is so boring. If done it would literally be a gimmick. Having the Master regenerate into Missy was gimmicky enough but she's a secondary character.

Why is there such an obsessive need for the Doctor to be a woman? It's not necessary.
That's my concern too really, that it'll feel "shoehorned in" for effect rather than organic. It DID feel like that with Missy to be honest. Her being a good character saved it, really.

But I do think if they want to explore a bit more diversity, they should go for ethnicity first. It is a bit strange that, with all of humanity as a possibility, he's always not only white, but always British .
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This whole 'the doctor should be a woman' thing is so boring. If done it would literally be a gimmick. Having the Master regenerate into Missy was gimmicky enough but she's a secondary character.

Why is there such an obsessive need for the Doctor to be a woman? It's not necessary.
Exactly .
I'm glad I'm not the only who thinks people are obsessed with the Doctor becoming a woman.

I want him to stay a man and Missy was a weird one to get my head around because I still kept thinking of the Master
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I want him to stay a man and Missy was a weird one to get my head around because I still kept thinking of the Master
That's a good thing because she is the Master.
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That's a good thing because she is the Master.
Is she heck !!!! she's a twisted version of Mary Poppins on acid !! . I know she's the master but I find it weird .
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Is she heck !!!! she's a twisted version of Mary Poppins on acid !! . I know she's the master but I find it weird .
And John Simm didn't look like he was on acid?

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If it were America he'd be a mixed race, transgendered sexually fluid Sea God with a missing arm by now.
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There really is no need for the Doctor to be play d by a woman, just as there isn't any need for a woman to play James Bond. It's been established he is a male and bowing down to whatever feminist claptrap the media are sprouting is pointless. I'm sure there are several great female actors who could play The Doctor brilliantly but there really is no need at all.
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The Doctor is an alien from Galifrey so he can turn into whatever because he's not human.

I don't always buy the James Bond argument either considering he was written as a Scottish man but most of his actors have been English...
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The Doctor is an alien from Galifrey so he can turn into whatever because he's not human.

I don't always buy the James Bond argument either considering he was written as a Scottish man but most of his actors have been English...
This.

James Bond is practically rebooted with each actor.

It's not a science fiction show that bends and changes every rule it makes.
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There really is no need for the Doctor to be play d by a woman, just as there isn't any need for a woman to play James Bond. It's been established he is a male and bowing down to whatever feminist claptrap the media are sprouting is pointless. I'm sure there are several great female actors who could play The Doctor brilliantly but there really is no need at all.
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James Bond has to stay male too . The Doctor & James Bond will always be male figures so people need to stop being silly because these characters were written as men so they shouldn't change or mess with it . Idris would be amazing but he's too busy in Hollywood , I'm glad he's so successful though
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James Bond has to stay male too . The Doctor & James Bond will always be male figures so people need to stop being silly because these characters were written as men so they shouldn't change or mess with it . Idris would be amazing but he's too busy in Hollywood , I'm glad he's so successful though
James Bond is a human male so unless he decides to undergo gender reassignment that's not really a valid comparison.
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James Bond is a human male so unless he decides to undergo gender reassignment that's not really a valid comparison.
That makes no difference when you get directors and writers trying to be clever by putting a modern twist on it all .

They'd probably do something ridiculous and make James retire and his long lost female sister or cousin would take over aka Joan or Janice Bond or something .

Atleast Super girl being the cousin to Superman worked
( it wasn't the most exciting movie but i didn't mind it too much )
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There really is no need for the Doctor to be play d by a woman, just as there isn't any need for a woman to play James Bond. It's been established he is a male and bowing down to whatever feminist claptrap the media are sprouting is pointless. I'm sure there are several great female actors who could play The Doctor brilliantly but there really is no need at all.
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I'm glad they're simply a female Time Lord. I always thought Time Lady sounded daft.
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Why are we discussing what is and isn't realistic in regards to a television show about an alien in a flying police box?
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Why are we discussing what is and isn't realistic in regards to a television show about an alien in a flying police box?
That's the very reason, though. Sci fi and fantasy universes, though often weird and out there, have an established set of rules for that world. Or good ones do, at least. You have to be very careful about changing the rules mid-game, because if you do, you can break the suspension of disbelief that's required to really enjoy those worlds. You change something, the viewer notices "a glitch in the matrix" so to speak, you get pulled back into the real world and suddenly ALL of it becomes obviously ridiculous.

I know these things don't matter much to a lot of viewers but to those of us who get invested in lore, it's important. If you want to change the Canon you better have a dammed good reason, AND a dammed good explanation.

I personally think they missed a perfectly good Sci fi out clause with the doctor. It could have been that, as standard, time Lords are a fixed gender BUT the doctor being gifted a new set of regenerations - which I guess you could think of as "man made" rather than natural - could have introduced any regeneration rule changes they wanted. But too late for that now because they have Missy and the other gender swap regeneration.
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That's the very reason, though. Sci fi and fantasy universes, though often weird and out there, have an established set of rules for that world. Or good ones do, at least. You have to be very careful about changing the rules mid-game, because if you do, you can break the suspension of disbelief that's required to really enjoy those worlds. You change something, the viewer notices "a glitch in the matrix" so to speak, you get pulled back into the real world and suddenly ALL of it becomes obviously ridiculous.

I know these things don't matter much to a lot of viewers but to those of us who get invested in lore, it's important. If you want to change the Canon you better have a dammed good reason, AND a dammed good explanation.

I personally think they missed a perfectly good Sci fi out clause with the doctor. It could have been that, as standard, time Lords are a fixed gender BUT the doctor being gifted a new set of regenerations - which I guess you could think of as "man made" rather than natural - could have introduced any regeneration rule changes they wanted. But too late for that now because they have Missy and the other gender swap regeneration.
But unlike many other shows Doctor Who rarely has rules and when it does it proceeds to break them as soon as possible.

So imo in-universe rules don't apply.
Especially now we've seen two Time Lord's regenerate into Time Ladies.
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Jarrod these are some more of confirmed episode names: The Haunted Hub Extremis and The Eaters of Light Episodes 4 6 and 10
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The Eaters of Light is written by classic who writer Roma...someone or other who wrote Survivor which was the last episode before it got cancelled
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Well, that's not a good sign. She wrote for the series which saw it decline so badly when it was axed?
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Well, that's not a good sign. She wrote for the series which saw it decline so badly when it was axed?
To be fair Survival was actually a really decent story
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I've never seen it. What was it about?
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I've never seen it. What was it about?
It's been a LONG time since I've seen it but the basic plot was about the Doctor's companion of the time, Ace being taken back to her home town where they find that a group of cheetah people have been led there by The Master and are basically taking over the town. It sounds naff but it was actually really good.
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