[Zizu]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

yes, i think its related to immune response. So if you have immune response, you are going to feel more crap as your body generates anti bodies to fight it. I don't think it necessarily gets worse on the 2nd jab, just everyone gets to the same level of feeling crap, which is actually a good thing

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Side effects may be worse after your second dose. “With the second dose, your body has seen the vaccine, and the protein [it contains], one time already, and so your body has a memory and capacity to respond a little more vigorously.”

19 Feb 2021

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[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Zizu

I had a few days of random pains .. mainly joint ones .. then a stomach upset one afternoon..

Guess we’ll never know if they’re all related to the first Pfizer jab ..

I’m seeing a lot of reports saying the effects are worse if you’ve already had Covid and they can be considerably worse after the second jab


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Ah, the pfizer one made you ill? Might be both then

Makes sense its the immune response though.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Ah, the pfizer one made you ill? Might be both then



Makes sense its the immune response though.

Never really felt poorly .. some random headaches , random pains etc

Maybe not even connected ..

Who knows


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[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i'm feeling much better today, not 100% but i felt really **** yesterday. Now my arm is sore, so that took longer to appear

His arm was hurting about 2 hours afterwards, but thats expected with vaccines really

Now he says it feels totally dead.

Hes shivering like hell though hes burning up with a fan on him :S

Says it feels exactly like when he actually had covid. Just wthout the lack of taste and smell.

Genuinely thinking I might hold off when offered, and instead pay privately so I can chose the pfizer one, as near all I know who have been ill, its been the astrazeneca.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Well gavins 'full of flu' today. My daughter asked if the doctors gave him covid I was like no, they stopped him getting it and she seems unable to see the logic in getting as ill as he is, to stop him getting ill. Haha. Am finding it harder to argue with her tbh but will get it into her, before she goes back to school...as otherwise will be getting calls about her telling kids false stuff

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[Vicky.]

Have actually made him take high dose of paracetamol like, as his fever was quite concerning :S

Told him, if he follows this like most others we know, he will be fine by tomorrow dinner time.

[Vicky.]

And yeah, oxford one. Or so it says on his little vaccination card thing.

[arista]

Yes Vicky
its around a day or two
of that in some cases.

[Vicky.]

Also, thinking on it, those who have been ill with it, most were confirmed at some stage to have caught covid over the past year or so. Well, most of those who I speak to enough to know that anyway. Small sample, tbf!

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Also, thinking on it, those who have been ill with it, most were confirmed at some stage to have caught covid over the past year or so. Well, most of those who I speak to enough to know that anyway. Small sample, tbf!

Makes sense really, you have a stronger immune response if you already have antibodies and that's what makes you feel ill. Also why people are hit harder by the second dose than the first.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Makes sense really, you have a stronger immune response if you already have antibodies and that's what makes you feel ill. Also why people are hit harder by the second dose than the first.

Yup definitely makes a lot of sense.

In which case am kind of crapping myself for mine. As I got covid 'badly' (though not enough for hospital) and currently have 'long covid' according to my GP. So in theory, if thats how it goes..I am going to be even more ill than Gav :S

Have been lucky with 'long covid' though seeing what some others seem to be getting. I just have a continual annoying cough, and taste is not 100% still either (though sense of smell appears to have gone into overdrive!)

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Yup definitely makes a lot of sense.

In which case am kind of crapping myself for mine. As I got covid 'badly' (though not enough for hospital) and currently have 'long covid' according to my GP. So in theory, if thats how it goes..I am going to be even more ill than Gav :S

Have been lucky with 'long covid' though seeing what some others seem to be getting. I just have a continual annoying cough, and taste is not 100% still either (though sense of smell appears to have gone into overdrive!)

You should be fine. You may get some flu like symptoms for a couple of days. But that's about it.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

You should be fine. You may get some flu like symptoms for a couple of days. But that's about it.

That was more or less my take on things .. I’m hypersensitive to a lot of triggers and I’ve had shingles in the past so to say I was wary is an understatement but I weighed all that against the option to prevent serious Covid , ventilation or death


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[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Also, thinking on it, those who have been ill with it, most were confirmed at some stage to have caught covid over the past year or so. Well, most of those who I speak to enough to know that anyway. Small sample, tbf!

That’s what I was saying before .. those who’ve had it seem to get worse side effects to the vaccines presumably as they’ve already got some built in protection after the virus has gone ..

Same thing seems to apply to the second jab which makes sense


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[Candy Annie Cane]

My Dad had no side effects after getting the Oxford vaccine but then developed shingles 2.5 weeks later. I thought it was just coincidence but have read a few anecdotal articles stating a number of people have developed shingles. Will probably never know but if it is a side effect I think he would have took a couple of days of flu type symptoms rather than this. He's been in quite a bit of pain with it for over 10 days now. But....rather that then getting seriously ill or worse with actual covid

[user104658]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

My Dad had no side effects after getting the Oxford vaccine but then developed shingles 2.5 weeks later. I thought it was just coincidence but have read a few anecdotal articles stating a number of people have developed shingles. Will probably never know but if it is a side effect I think he would have took a couple of days of flu type symptoms rather than this. He's been in quite a bit of pain with it for over 10 days now. But....rather that then getting seriously ill or worse with actual covid

The issue I think is if vaccinations are going to have to be repeated. As a one off is one thing, but its unrealistic to expect people to willingly experience those sorts of side effects every year.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

My Dad had no side effects after getting the Oxford vaccine but then developed shingles 2.5 weeks later. I thought it was just coincidence but have read a few anecdotal articles stating a number of people have developed shingles. Will probably never know but if it is a side effect I think he would have took a couple of days of flu type symptoms rather than this. He's been in quite a bit of pain with it for over 10 days now. But....rather that then getting seriously ill or worse with actual covid

Yikes... I had shingles years ago and it’s one of the worst things I’ve ever experienced..

Hope to gawd I don’t get it


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[bots]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

My Dad had no side effects after getting the Oxford vaccine but then developed shingles 2.5 weeks later. I thought it was just coincidence but have read a few anecdotal articles stating a number of people have developed shingles. Will probably never know but if it is a side effect I think he would have took a couple of days of flu type symptoms rather than this. He's been in quite a bit of pain with it for over 10 days now. But....rather that then getting seriously ill or worse with actual covid

i've had shingles in the past several times and it's no joke. The shingles virus is always in your system after you have had chicken pox, it never goes away, it takes hold when you get a bit run down and the vaccine could easily have contributed to that as your system is busy creating new defenses

[Nicky91]

well my mom has decided she doesn't want AstraZeneca

majority of people who got that one, most lots of nasty/severe side effects, some even saying the vaccine is worse than covid itself

[arista]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

well my mom has decided she doesn't want AstraZeneca

majority of people who got that one, most lots of nasty/severe side effects, some even saying the vaccine is worse than covid itself

Germany now backs it for Olders

[arista]

[People vaccinated up to and including 6 March 2021

First dose: 22,213,112

Second dose: 1,122,402]

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[Vicky.]

Well gav seems ok now, albeit a little tired and headachey. And sore arm.

So all is well (:

[arista]

[Ammi]

Five countries halt use of one batch of AstraZeneca jab after fatal blood clot...


https://uk.yahoo.com/news/five-count...194206193.html

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Ammi

Five countries halt use of one batch of AstraZeneca jab after fatal blood clot...





https://uk.yahoo.com/news/five-count...194206193.html

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It said PRAC were investigating the thrombosis conditions linked to the same batch as well as all other reports of thrombosis and related blood clotting conditions reported post-vaccination.

“The information available so far indicates that the number of thromboembolic events in vaccinated people is no higher than that seen in the general population,” it said.

The EMA said as of Tuesday, there had been 22 reports of such conditions among the three million people to receive the AstraZeneca jab in the European Economic Area.



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