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setanta · 15-12-2009, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by InOne

Not poppy littles shites who do covers. That is not music, that is just shite.

That's how thick he knows the public are - he doesn't even get a writer to produce a new song. lol. It's staggering really when you think about it.

Jack_ · 15-12-2009, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by setanta

Oh, you don't get it do you? Simon has you right where he wants and you wont know it until in about 10 years and you'll laugh about how gullible you were while Simon is sipping Martini's on his own island with his own harem, laughing at how stupid and easily controlled the British population are.

Thanks for pretty much insulting me.

Of course I get it. The control Simon has over the UK charts is unbelievable, and bad - there's no denying that. I never once said that I liked his control over the charts, just that you don't really have any right to moan unless you're going to come up with an alternative. It's as simple as that.

Yes it's an appauling site when all you see is XF acts and guests everywhere in the Top 40, but what do you or other people intend to do about it?

MissKittyFantastico · 15-12-2009, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by setanta

Yep, me too but RATM will have to do right now.

But I don't want that either!

InOne · 15-12-2009, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Twilight

Just because you don't like it. it doesn't mean its ****.

It is not a matter of opinion. It is what it is, a poppy cover of another pop song which is pretty much, shite. It all sounds the same and you idiots lap it up.

InOne · 15-12-2009, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by setanta

That's how thick he knows the public are - he doesn't even get a writer to produce a new song. lol. It's staggering really when you think about it.

Yeah, what a lazy rubbish option really.

setanta · 15-12-2009, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack_

Thanks for pretty much insulting me.

Of course I get it. The control Simon has over the UK charts is unbelievable, and bad - there's no denying that. I never once said that I liked his control over the charts, just that you don't really have any right to moan unless you're going to come up with an alternative. It's as simple as that.

Yes it's an appauling site when all you see is XF acts and guests everywhere in the Top 40, but what do you or other people intend to do about it?

I didn't really insult you so don't try to be a victim here. Just stating that you're playing right into his hands, which is obviously the case and you're just emphasizing that point.

There's always other options in life if you look hard enough for them..... George Michael has released a wonderful Xmas record but X Factor is going to win with a charmless cover version.

Twilight · 15-12-2009, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by InOne

It is not a matter of opinion. It is what it is.

Thats just being Ignorant then.

Jack_ · 15-12-2009, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by setanta

I didn't really insult you so don't try to be a victim here. Just stating that you're playing right into his hands, which is obviously the case and you're just emphasizing that point.

There's always other options in life if you look hard enough for them..... George Michael has released a wonderful Xmas record but X Factor is going to win with a charmless cover version.

Fair enough.

That's also a fair point, but as I said, what do you intend to do to get this George Michael track to Christmas #1?

It's no use complaining about it unless you're willing to offer some constructive and large scale input.

InOne · 15-12-2009, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Twilight

Thats just being Ignorant then.

It's really not. He does not write his own songs or music. He is the product of a squeaky clean 'singing' competition, he sings what he is told to sing, says what he is told to say. He is a puppet, that is not an artist, and that is not music.

Patrick · 15-12-2009, 08:34 PM

Is the Music Video out yet? for Joe

setanta · 15-12-2009, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack_

Fair enough.

That's also a fair point, but as I said, what do you intend to do to get this George Michael track to Christmas #1?

It's no use complaining about it unless you're willing to offer some constructive and large scale input.

I don't have to do anything- all of you have to just snap out of this zombie-like state that Simon has placed you under.

WOMBAI · 15-12-2009, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack_

Posting on a forum which has what, 10,000 members? Is publicly exposing him?

You seem to be acting as if I've killed someone. When you take into account that there are far more homophobes who simply hate him for his 'assumed sexuality', I think you'll find that I've done no wrong by expressing my opinion on his sexuality in a fair, but not insulting way. I'd imagine Joe is more concerned about the people who hate him because of all of this, not the people who are just merely wondering what his sexuality is!

But questioning his sexuality is what has created those homophobes in the first place! You may not have meant it to be insulting - but to suggest that someone is gay/bisexual when they have never stated that they are - is insulting! If he isn't - then it is untrue. If he is - then he clearly doesn't want to divulge that to the rest of the world. And it is no one else's place to do so.

Personally - I don't believe for one minute that he is - and it has bugger all to do with his singing. Why do people have to get so personal?

Stephanie · 15-12-2009, 08:42 PM

pmsl are you trying to say that jack is homophobic?

WOMBAI · 15-12-2009, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by InOne

It's really not. He does not write his own songs or music. He is the product of a squeaky clean 'singing' competition, he sings what he is told to sing, says what he is told to say. He is a puppet, that is not an artist, and that is not music.

To be fair - he has to be those things at the moment - to win the competition and to fulfill his contract. He is only 18 - in time, if he becomes an established singer - he will be in more of a position to dictate his own terms and produce his own style of music.

Jack_ · 15-12-2009, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by WOMBAI

But questioning his sexuality is what has created those homophobes in the first place! You may not have meant it to be insulting - but to suggest that someone is gay/bisexual when they have never stated that they are - is insulting! If he isn't - then it is untrue. If he is - then he clearly doesn't want to divulge that to the rest of the world. And it is no one else's place to do so.

Personally - I don't believe for one minute that he is - and it has bugger all to do with his singing. Why do people have to get so personal?

Of course it's not. Homophobes are scared of homosexual people because it's not seen as the 'normal' thing to do, and if they are seen to be supporting them - they think they'll be looked down upon. They're narrow minded and ignorant people. It's got nothing to do with questioning peoples sexuality, that's just showing interest (whether good or bad). All part of human nature.

I'll accept your opinion that it is insulting then. I admit, I was quick to judge, but as I have said it's part of human nature, and that's also why people get so personal.

Jack_ · 15-12-2009, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Stephanie

pmsl are you trying to say that jack is homophobic?

If she is, then that's the biggest load of shite I've heard since Michelle McManus being set to become the next Cheryl Cole.

Stephanie · 15-12-2009, 08:49 PM

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If she is, then that's the biggest load of shite I've heard since Michelle McManus being set to become the next Cheryl Cole.

LMAO

WOMBAI · 15-12-2009, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack_

If she is, then that's the biggest load of shite I've heard since Michelle McManus being set to become the next Cheryl Cole.

Of course I am not trying to say you are homophobic! I am saying that just because it is not an issue for you - it may be for him - particularly if he is not! People should not make assumptions about people's sexuality - without very good reason!

Jack_ · 15-12-2009, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by WOMBAI

Of course I am not trying to say you are homophobic! I am saying that just because it is not an issue for you - it may be for him - particularly if he is not! People should not make assumptions about people's sexuality - without very good reason!

Well as I've said, I was quick to judge and yes it's wrong. But it's human nature and something that will come naturally to the majority of people - whether you'll admit it or not.

Fom · 15-12-2009, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by InOne

It's really not. He does not write his own songs or music. He is the product of a squeaky clean 'singing' competition, he sings what he is told to sing, says what he is told to say. He is a puppet, that is not an artist, and that is not music.

Give him chance! Many people have come from singing competitions and now release their own material. This is him making his entrance into the business, don't try and assume what he is going to make in the future.

MeMyselfAndI · 15-12-2009, 08:57 PM

Good, i hope he crashes nd burns

InOne · 15-12-2009, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Fom

Give him chance! Many people have come from singing competitions and now release their own material. This is him making his entrance into the business, don't try and assume what he is going to make in the future.

Well it's the fact he is ruining another X Mas number 1 that is most annoying. He himself should take a stand but of course he won't he can see the £££, and lets face it, the way he comes across, I think he will just go with whatever the record company throws at him. He has nothing that stands out about him at all.

setanta · 15-12-2009, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Fom

Give him chance! Many people have come from singing competitions and now release their own material. This is him making his entrance into the business, don't try and assume what he is going to make in the future.

Well I might buy his music if - a fecking staggeringly huge if by the way- that happens, but in the mean time I want a song to topple X Factor off it's Christmas perch because it's getting tiresome and depressing.