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Stephanie · 12-01-2011, 02:21 PM

The Golden Gate Bridge is the most popular place to commit suicide in the entire world.[43] The deck is approximately 245 feet (75 m) above the water.[44] After a fall of approximately four seconds, jumpers hit the water at some 76 miles per hour (122 km/h). At such a speed water has been determined to take on properties similar to concrete.[citation needed] Because of this, most jumpers die on their immediate contact with the water. The few who survive the initial impact generally drown or die of hypothermia in the cold water.

Niamh. · 12-01-2011, 02:23 PM

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The Golden Gate Bridge is the most popular place to commit suicide in the entire world.[43] The deck is approximately 245 feet (75 m) above the water.[44] After a fall of approximately four seconds, jumpers hit the water at some 76 miles per hour (122 km/h). At such a speed water has been determined to take on properties similar to concrete.[citation needed] Because of this, most jumpers die on their immediate contact with the water. The few who survive the initial impact generally drown or die of hypothermia in the cold water.

http://updatedfrequently.com/india-t...l-of-the-world

lostalex · 12-01-2011, 02:27 PM

Stop arguing, i meant the most popular SPOT in the world, not the most popular COUNTRY.

Niamh. · 12-01-2011, 02:28 PM

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Stop arguing, i meant the most popular SPOT in the world, not the most popular COUNTRY.

I know you did, sorry but I couldn't resist!

MTVN · 12-01-2011, 02:28 PM

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http://updatedfrequently.com/india-t...l-of-the-world

But isnt that just talking in terms of countries, not in terms of specific places

Edit - already been mentioned

lostalex · 12-01-2011, 02:30 PM

It is a really interesting documentary though, you should watch it. Very heartbreaking. They actually set up cameras around the bridge for an entire year and filmed every suicide.

Lee. · 12-01-2011, 02:31 PM

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It is a really interesting documentary though, you should watch it. Very heartbreaking. They actually set up cameras around the bridge for an entire year and filmed every suicide.

I couldn't watch that.

lostalex · 12-01-2011, 02:33 PM

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I couldn't watch that.

It's very difficult to watch. They track down the families of each one, and interview them, and reveal the life circumstances for each of the suicides they filmed. It's very difficult hearing the families.

Suicide is a very selfish act for sure.

Stephanie · 12-01-2011, 02:34 PM

i might watch it, it does sound interesting.

Niamh. · 12-01-2011, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex

It's very difficult to watch. They track down the families of each one, and interview them, and reveal the life circumstances for each of the suicides they filmed. It's very difficult hearing the families.

Suicide is a very selfish act for sure.

It's very easy to say that if you don't suffer from depression or a mental illness

lostalex · 12-01-2011, 02:39 PM

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It's very easy to say that if you don't suffer from depression or a mental illness

I do suffer from depression, i'm a diagnosed manic-depressive, and it was still very easy for me to say that.

How is suicide not selfish? If you are going to disagree, at least explain yourself, don't just presume that only people without mental illness would say that, explain yourself.

Alleviating your own pain, by inflicting massive pain on others (especially your own family and loved ones) is selfish by my estimation.

Zippy · 12-01-2011, 02:40 PM

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I couldn't watch that.

ooh I could

*goes off to ghoulishly find a download*

Stephanie · 12-01-2011, 02:41 PM

*has it downloading right now*

Lee. · 12-01-2011, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex

It's very difficult to watch. They track down the families of each one, and interview them, and reveal the life circumstances for each of the suicides they filmed. It's very difficult hearing the families.

Suicide is a very selfish act for sure.

I'mnot going to go down the "it's selfish" path as I understand that people's minds must be beyond being able to see it as that to make them willingly put people through that.

A friend of mine comitted suicide just a few months ago.. He had just graduated from University, had a beautiful wife, a gorgeous 3 year old son plus his inlaws who were South African had just sold off alot of land or summat and had basically told them that they would clear any outstanding debt they should have and told them to go and choose themselves a house up to the value of 150k.. He basically had everything going for him, but for reasons nobody will ever know, he went into the woods one day and hung himself..

The funeral was probably the most heartbreaking one I've been to.. I've known the parents since I was about 8 and they were so broken looking, they were barely recogniseable..
I just thought whilst there that not only are they going to have to live with the pain of losing a child, but also of thinking that their son was in such a bad place and couldn't even go to his own mum.. That would break my heart.
And I know none of this stuff is as simple as it seems and there is stuff that I don't suppose all of us understand, but I would still be devastated to think that my own son would take his own life rather than reach out to me for help

Zippy · 12-01-2011, 02:42 PM

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*has it downloading right now*

bitch, I wanna see the suicides first!

Stephanie · 12-01-2011, 02:44 PM

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bitch, I wanna see the suicides first!

well if you download it you'll probably see it first, seeing as my internet is super slow :L

lostalex · 12-01-2011, 02:45 PM

Just because it's selfish, doesn't mean i'm denigrating their bravery.

I also believe that suicide is incredibly brave. It takes a a lot of courage. And it's very selfish.

It's like a person running into a burning building to retrieve a winning lottery ticket.

Is it brave? yes. Is it selfish? yes.

Niamh. · 12-01-2011, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex

I do suffer from depression, i'm a diagnosed manic-depressive, and it was still very easy for me to say that.

How is suicide not selfish? If you are going to disagree, at least explain yourself, don't just presume that only people without mental illness would say that, explain yourself.

Alleviating your own pain, by inflicting massive pain on others (especially your own family and loved ones) is selfish by my estimation.

Well, maybe the person thinks that it's equally as selfish to carry on living and put their parents/partner through a life of dealing with a depressed person.

lostalex · 12-01-2011, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

Well, maybe the person thinks that it's equally as selfish to carry on living and put their parents/partner through a life of dealing with a depressed person.

Well when you hear the interviews with family, i promise you, not one of the family/friends felt any kind of relief. So the idea that it's "doing them a favour" is really ridiculous, imo.

Stephanie · 12-01-2011, 02:48 PM

the only reason i haven't committed suicide is because thinking about my family and stuff being upset that i died and all that and putting them through that, makes me feel worse than i currently do being depressed. i think it's kind of selfish.

Niamh. · 12-01-2011, 02:52 PM

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Well when you hear the interviews with family, i promise you, not one of the family/friends felt any kind of relief. So the idea that it's "doing them a favour" is really ridiculous, imo.

I don't think that the families believe that a favour was done for them, in fact I know that's not the case. My point is that the person doesn't always do it from a selfish place.

My best friend when I was younger committed suicide, it was the worst thing I've had to deal with so far in my life, she left me a note and tried to explain why she had done it, and I kind of understood and was glad she did. She was not a selfish person.

Zippy · 12-01-2011, 02:53 PM

I find the idea of blame pretty absurd when it comes to suicidal tendencies. I think youre kinda missing the whole point. Nobody commits suicide to hurt others. They do so because theyve reached a point of no hope. Or theyre just not in a fit state mentally.

Everybody has the right to own their own destiny. We're all selfish creatures ultimately.

lostalex · 12-01-2011, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

My best friend when I was younger committed suicide, it was the worst thing I've had to deal with so far in my life, she left me a note and tried to explain why she had done it, and I kind of understood and was glad she did. She was not a selfish person.

I'm sorry, did you just say you are glad she committed suicide?

WTF.