[bbfan1991]

Yeah Anton seems nice.

Trust Joey to get involved, credit to him for speaking out about his uncle and share his thoughts...

[Ninastar]

Originally Posted by Niall

I like that guy. He talks sense.

If only one Premier League player would come out.. It would change things so so much..

they'd get too much crap, I don't think it will happen for a while

[Niall]

Originally Posted by Ninastar

they'd get too much crap, I don't think it will happen for a while

I suppose that's true but if one of them came out and soldiered through all the ****e they'd get, maybe it'd inspire others..

[Niall]

Also, are there any openly lesbian players?

[Niall]

I really liked that lady.

[bbfan1991]

Small progress has been made but like Amal said there would only be big progress if one player was brave enough to come out..

[Ninastar]

Originally Posted by Niall

Also, are there any openly lesbian players?

probably all of them

[Niall]

Originally Posted by Ninastar

probably all of them

[Ninastar]

Originally Posted by Niall

I really liked that lady.

me too, she was really sweet

I think it was a bit sad too, I think she felt guilty that she never got to know her uncle. What she said was true, if he even had that little bit of support it could have made that difference

she can't help that though, that's why I feel bad for her

[Stu]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Hence why I used the term 'generally'

A pretty poor choice of term. It gives the impression you think the majority of football fans are scumbags. 'Generally' meaning ... well ... 'in general'.

Originally Posted by Niall

What really annoys me is that most football fans and players assume that if there was a gay player on the scene, that they'd be some sort of sexual predator that goes after every man in the sport. It's so ****ing backward and immature and one of the reasons I myself dislike the sport so much.

No. No no ****ing no.

Can we please stop with the edgy, "I'm a teen who doesn't like football~!" assumption that most people who enjoy the game are scumbags and homophobes?

It's really, really annoying. Talk about the vocal sections of the crowd on the terraces who are like this all you want but stop using terms like 'most' and 'generally' to hit home some unspoken but obvious high horse view that football is some retarded thing generally supported by working class chip bags who couldn't tie their shoe laces together.

[Niall]

Originally Posted by Ninastar

me too, she was really sweet

I think it was a bit sad too, I think she felt guilty that she never got to know her uncle. What she said was true, if he even had that little bit of support it could have made that difference

she can't help that though, that's why I feel bad for her

Yeah, I know what you mean. I felt really sorry for her too.

[Marc]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I think that's a bit of a generalisation, I've been to a lot of games and the vast majority there aren't any problems and it's all good-natured banter really between fans, can't remember ever hearing any really bad homophobic or bigoted stuff

Well considering I havent actually been to every single football in the history of the game I have to rely on generalisations lol

[MTVN]

I genuinely think most football fans and players are more tolerant than given credit for, like none of the Millwall players thought twice before saying they'd accept a gay team mate and you could see how well that Swedish guy was accepted. But then a few hundred people chant something homophobic and it gives the majority a bad name, and it gives football a bad name.

I said this earlier as well but I don't think this is restricted to football, Steven Davies only recently became the first openly gay England cricketer, and that's hardly a sport associated with manliness, if anything it's the opposite. But football's a lot bigger and rivalries aren't as heated in cricket, cricket fans don't give each other stick but in football chanting homophobic stuff is sometimes an attempt to try and get one over on the other team. I think we will see an openly gay footballer in the next few years, and he'd likely receive overwhelming support from most people, hopefully that'd be enough to outweigh any abuse

[Niall]

Originally Posted by Stu

No. No no ****ing no.

Can we please stop with the edgy, "I'm a teen who doesn't like football~!" assumption that most people who enjoy the game are scumbags and homophobes?*

It's really, really annoying. Talk about the vocal sections of the crowd on the terraces who are like this all you want but stop using terms like 'most' and 'generally' to hit home some unspoken but obvious high horse view that football is some retarded thing generally supported by working class chip bags who couldn't tie their shoe laces together.

I'm not trying to be edgy though. I've never really gotten that much of a thrill out of watching the sport. I don't really like it all that much to be honest.

And I say 'most' because most of the football fans I've met are quite homophobic or speak in quite a derogatory manner when the subject if homosexuality is roused. Maybe most football fans aren't like that, but the majority of ones that I've met are.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Marc

Well considering I havent actually been to every single football in the history of the game I have to rely on generalisations lol

Oh right fair enough

[lostalex]

I can't speak for european soccer, but After watching the world cup last year i certainly got thr impression that we had plenty of gays on TEAm USA.

[Novo]

Nice to see my post got a few Chomps, It's a pleasure.

[Brother Leon]

Is this worth watching guys?

Might catch it online before bed.

[MTVN]

Yeah it was decent, had some interesting stuff in it

[Omah]

Originally Posted by Marc

Probably two the most famous tennis players of all time, Billie Jean King and Martina Navratilova are gay.

Originally Posted by Omah

They're women and aren't most female tennis players lesbian or bi?

Originally Posted by Nathan

No

Originally Posted by Marc

No. Ignorant tool

Originally Posted by Jack_

Is that supposed to be some ridiculous stereotype

Originally Posted by Marc

I think it was some attempt at humour...

Originally Posted by Omah

That's why I asked, not stated .....

So, rebuttal for me, but not for :

Originally Posted by Niall

Also, are there any openly lesbian players?

Originally Posted by Ninastar

probably all of them

Originally Posted by Niall

Double standards for some posters ?

[Ninastar]

i was joking, seeing as I like girls myself

[Black Dagger]

Originally Posted by King_Anton

Is this worth watching guys?

Might catch it online before bed.

It was a great watch, I watched the late-viewing, I ended up crying for half of the show, what a mess

[Crimson Dynamo]

It aint going to happen anytime soon and i dont think most fans could give a flying f if it does not.

[Niall]

Originally Posted by Omah

So, rebuttal for me, but not for :







Double standards for some posters ?

It's not double standards at all. Neither Caitlin or myself replied to that question you asked so how you can bring us into your whole double standards argument makes no sense seeing as we weren't the ones that answered you.

[Niall]

Also, I asked if there were any lesbian players in female football, Omah. You implied that most female tennis players were lesbian or bi.

Those are two completely different questions. .__.