[Good King Glennceslas]

The Queen gets on my tits a bit too.

Crack a smile you old wench

[Marc]

She'll die soon

[Vicky.]

The queen apparently had a severe case of the squits right about now.

Does that make you feel better?

In answer to the OP, Ke$ha annoys the hell out of me and I dont even know why. She just grates.

[Me. I Am Salman]

Originally Posted by Niall

Okay I'm going to break this down, Salman.

Really? So the financial success of her music automatically implies that said music is fantastic? Just look at the reviews of each of her albums from Rated R to Unapologetic. Year on year they worsen, probably down to the ever increasing number of filler tracks on each record.

I didn't say financial success automatically means her music was fantastic As she's one of the most successful acts right now she gets handed the best material available.

Rated R was intended to be her most mature and personal body of work so of course it's going to be the most critically acclaimed. How the hell is she supposed to top something like that, it was released at such a difficult time in her life. None of its predecessors or successors have rated better, it was a one off. (Can I just also point out that Rated R was recorded in under a year - proof that the time does not indicate quality). So if we take Rated R out of the equation, Loud, Talk That Talk & Unapologetic are only within six points with eachother on Metacritic. Hardly a substantial dip in critic opinion. Her last three albums have all scored above 60 so the critics still love her.

And you think there's no overkill? Since October 2009 (when Rated R was released) she's released 22 singles on her own. Count the features that she did in that time and it goes up to 28. If that's not ****ing overkill that I don't know what is. I haven't even mentioned all the bloody tours she's done and stuff like that either.

No I don't think she's overkill. I don't see what features have to do with anything as she or her management have no say in when they get released, so you can't pinpoint the blame on her. Out of her 22 singles, only

-Russian Roulette
-Hard
-Rude Boy
-Te Amo
-Only Girl
-What's My Name
-S&M
-California King Bed
-Cheers
-We Found Love
-Where Have You Been
-Diamonds
-Stay

were released WW, received videos and proper airplay in the last five years. So taking that into account as well as the fact that the Loud era was the last time she was properly promoting things, no I don't think she's overkill. It's a lot, but it's not overkill. She's consistently providing good music for her fans, I don't see the problem with that. And anyway this era she's being quite slow with things.

If she was conscious of things then I'm sure she'd choose not to associate with a man who threw a chair out
of a window when asked about what happened between the two of them. Or released an album full of misogynistic songs after what he did. Or posts an Instagram rant detailing how he is the victim. Or gets a tattoo of a battered woman on his neck. I could go on and on. He's an odious and disgusting person and Rihanna makes me immensely irritated. Especially when she releases a song like 'Nobody's Business' when clearly it is, seeing as how they rub their relationship in everyone's faces all the time.

How does throwing a chair out a window make you an evil person. It was by no means the best way to deal with things but was done out of frustration from people not moving on from the incident which he's trying his best to put behind him. His albums post-incident are not misogynistic, they're just typical R&B records similar to his old stuff, so I don't see how that relates to the incident. You do know the instagram rant was fake? And that tattoo he got on his neck is supposed to be a sugar skull associated with a Mexican celebration, yes it was an absolutely ****ing idiotic decision to make considering accusations it was Rihanna would be inevitable, but the fact is it's not supposed to be her. No way would his management let him flaunt something like that.[/quote]

She's rude and malicious to her fans. I understand that she gets a lot of ****, but she should know by now how much her words over anyone else's can hurt, and have the decency to shut her trap. She's insulted fans here, here, and here. I'm sure there are more examples but I don't have the time or energy to trawl through Google to find them.

Link 1 and 3 I explained before already. And how is any of that in the second link insults to fans.. And there really aren't more examples.

Inspirational quotes do not mean that she isn't obnoxious. Any hipster could do that. It's actually extremely vapid and irritating.

They're mostly religious, she's only trying to keep in touch with her beliefs

And what I find obnoxious about her actions on social networking sites is all the pictures of her doing drugs (like when she was snorting cocaine off that man's head), other stupid controversial **** (like that time she was in the strip club and put about 893267980 photos on Instagram), and all those photos with that idiot Chris Brown. That's how she is obnoxious.

OK fair play to that then

Fair play to her if she can sing that, but this performance is indefensible and atrocious:

Spoiler:

Youtube video

And don't say "Oh but she's moving around a lot". That doesn't ever seem to hurt Beyoncé or Gaga's singing ability.

So what if she can't sing good live as well as dance like other artists. The fact is, she can sing live brilliantly, which you said she can't do to save her life.

[Saph]

nobody can sing well live and dance tbf

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by Salman!

Releasing an album a year doesn't mean a decrease in quality. She's a money making machine so she'll always be given the best material. Her music always sounds fresh and better than most her peers so I don't see the problem with it, the more music the better. Unapologetic was a big step up from Talk That Talk. There is no overkill or overexposure, she's only released 2 videos in the past 10 months and like 2-3 singles. If there was overkill then she wouldn't keep getting those #1s.

I'm really confused by what you mean with the Chris Brown comment - he's put his abusive ways behind him, so what's the problem? A few bust ups (which funnily everyone assumes he starts) doesn't make him an abusive bully because I'm sorry you could basically say the same thing for Frank Ocean and Drake with that logic. Do you really think that Rihanna would get back with him if he hadn't change? She's not stupid or 'blinded by love'. I'm sure being physically assaulted and completely humiliated in the public eye has made her more self-aware and conscious of things. She wouldn't risk her whole career & PR if she genuinely didn't think he had changed. And if Chris didn't love her then surely he would want to be disassociated from her as much as possible as their relationship almost ruined him (obviously self-inflicted)? It's just dumb how people think Rihanna getting back with him is disgusting when at worst nowadays he's just arrogant.

How does she insult her fans? She only insulted that girl last year because like by everybody else she was being judged for being associated with Chris Brown (they weren't even together at the time). And by the looks of things that girl wasn't even a fan, she was saying loads of abusive things to her. The other time when she insulted someone was on Instagram, and that was because they wrote she would end up like Whitney Houston when all she was doing was smoking weed. That's highly offensive so her outburst is understandable.

Obnoxiousness on social working sites? Not really. Check out her twitter, she regularly tweets images of inspirational quotes and just the other day wrote a heartfelt message to a fan who's mother had just died.

Oh and finally she can sing live to save her life - have you actually watched the SNL performance of Stay? It's amazing.

Oh NOoooO an opinion!! On the Internet!!

Originally Posted by Salman!

Gaga looks and acts like a drunk camel.

That's possibly the worst attempt At an insult I've ever read

[Me. I Am Salman]

I was only trying to clear any misconceptions.

And saying Rihanna has a massive forehead isn't um okay lol

[Niall]

I would argue back with you Salman, but I think I made a good enough argument in my last post and to be honest, this debate is dull as ****.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Lee.

I sorted your typo for you

[Shaun]

Originally Posted by Salman!

Well most people I've come across love Unapologetic and by the looks of things so do the critics

none of those are reputable institutions. maybe Spin at a push, but the rest are lowest common denominator crap.

[Me. I Am Salman]

What are reputable?

[Apple202]

ew music snobbery ew

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Justin Bieber annoys the hell out of me.

[mizzy25]

christine bleakley, adrian chiles or wotever his name is and james corden

[lily.]

Nick Grimshaw... idk if he counts as a celebrity, but he's annoying. Bring back Moyles.

[lily.]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

In answer to the OP, Ke$ha annoys the hell out of me and I dont even know why. She just grates.

Probably her voice.. it's nasal, like Rihanna.

[Marc]

Alicia Keys
Ricky Gervais
Madonna
Stella English

[Black Dagger]

Originally Posted by lily.

Nick Grimshaw... idk if he counts as a celebrity, but he's annoying. Bring back Moyles.

Oh god yes, where has he came from?

Annoying twerp.

[Black Dagger]

Oh and those Rihanna paragraphs above have made me vom

[Shaun]

Grimmo may be annoying but let's not bring back Moyles.

[lily.]

I don't know why you hate Moyles so much Shaun. He's brilliant.

[Saph]

The guy who plays Sherlock annoys me a bit

[Smithy]

Will.i.am and Pitbull they both need to stop

[swinearefine]

Taylor Swift. I don't follow celebrity culture at all and get annoyed with people who attack them when they don't know much about them, but I legitimately hate this woman.

[Me. I Am Salman]

Originally Posted by Black Dagger

Oh and those Rihanna paragraphs above have made me vom

Oh please