[Lister of Smeg]

Weather you like or louth what he says you got to admire his bottle to say what he thinks especially when we live in a world that is offended by everything he's one of the few that says itvas it is and doesn't give a **** what anyone thinks of him . His removal from the house is a further example of the erosion of freedom of speech we are witnessing in this country more and more as the years go by.

[Josy]

No he's just an old offensive dick

There is a huge difference from freedom of speech and hate speech.

[Lister of Smeg]

Originally Posted by Josy

No he's just an old offensive dick

There is a huge difference from freedom of speech and hate speech.

Nope even if people disagree they can choose to not listen hate speech or not .

[Miranda123]

Originally Posted by Josy

No he's just an old offensive dick

There is a huge difference from freedom of speech and hate speech.

well said Josie

if Ken was just an old dinosaur, from an age when offensive words were more common, then he would have used the other N word, the word Negro was never a common term in this country, in fact as a child of the 70's the only time I ever heard it used was on a programme called Roots about an african slave in the USA, and the term was used by slave masters, you may also hear it in the deep south now, from the most ignorant, but it was never in use in this country

I believe he used that word to be controversial, but not the other N word because he didnt want to be kicked out in disgrace

My mum was 86 when she died and had early onset dementia and in all my life I never heard her use either word, so his age is really NO EXCUSE WHATSOEVER and does a great disservice to the rest of us who grew up hearing language like that and consigned it to the dustbin of history (in this country) long ago!

[Pincho Paxton]

I don't believe in free speech. Newspapers want free speech because they make money from it.

[Lister of Smeg]

Originally Posted by Pincho Paxton

I don't believe in free speech. Newspapers want free speech because they make money from it.

Dont like freedom of speech ?. I hear North Korea is lovely this time of year.

[Pincho Paxton]

Originally Posted by Lister of Smeg

Dont like freedom of speech ?. I hear North Korea is lovely this time of year.

I was on North Korea's side.

[Gusto Brunt]

Originally Posted by Pincho Paxton

I don't believe in free speech. Newspapers want free speech because they make money from it.

I don't believe in free speech either. There are always boundaries, taste and decency...

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Gusto Brunt

I don't believe in free speech either. There are always boundaries, taste and decency...

Our relatives died in wars to give us our freedom ,we have rights too you know ,what a sick thing to say "I dont believe in freedom of speech"

[GiRTh]

Free speech or freedom to be offensive?

[Lister of Smeg]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Free speech or freedom to be offensive?

Either way doesn't matter he has a right to his opinion in much the same way they can tell him to ****off. In the end silencing opinion of others doesn't change anything really .

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Lister of Smeg

Either way doesn't matter he has a right to his opinion in much the same way they can tell him to ****off. In the end silencing opinion of others doesn't change anything really .

People can have opinions without in any way offending or hurting other people. Ken knows he crosses the line and doesn't care as he showed in the DR.

[Lister of Smeg]

Originally Posted by Josy

People can have opinions without in any way offending or hurting other people. Ken knows he crosses the line and doesn't care as he showed in the DR.

I fail to see why he should walk on eggshells to save others precious feeling maybe the nanny state plonkers should grow a thicker skin and deal with it instead of eroding other people's personal freedoms just because they don't like what someone else is saying.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Lister of Smeg

I fail to see why he should walk on eggshells to save others precious feeling maybe the nanny state plonkers should grow a thicker skin and deal with it instead of eroding other people's personal freedoms just because they don't like what someone else is saying.

You are totally missing my points.

Free speech is completely fine, wonderful. Ken wasn't using free speech he was making vile remarks, offending people and he made a racist comment.

And who knows what else he has said to get ejected.

[MTVN]

Nah this isn't a free speech issue

[Jake.]

Hardly a champion when he's been ejected

[Ammi]

...it's not free speech though, it's just ignorance...

[rionablue]

Originally Posted by Lister of Smeg

Weather you like or louth what he says you got to admire his bottle to say what he thinks especially when we live in a world that is offended by everything he's one of the few that says itvas it is and doesn't give a **** what anyone thinks of him . His removal from the house is a further example of the erosion of freedom of speech we are witnessing in this country more and more as the years go by.

Ummmmmmmmmmmm no he isn't. Continuous sexist comments and using racist slurs are not to be applauded. Horrible vile man who deserved to be kicked out on his sorry arse

[chuff me dizzy]

I cant stand the man ,but defend his right to free speech ,he's in his 70s, he was brought up pre PC brigade era as I was, when there really was free speech and no one was upset by it, it was the norm ,oh to go back to those days EVERYONE was happier

[Josy]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

I cant stand the man ,but defend his right to free speech ,he's in his 70s, he was brought up pre PC brigade era as I was, when there really was free speech and no one was upset by it, it was the norm ,oh to go back to those days EVERYONE was happier

Apart from the people that hateful words and speeches were aimed at of course.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Josy

Apart from the people that hateful words and speeches were aimed at of course.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Josy

Apart from the people that hateful words and speeches were aimed at of course.

exactly

[Ammi]

...Alexander was also brought up in the same era and yet he knows and told Ken that what he said was wrong...it's not a thing of age, it's a thing of respect...

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...Alexander was also brought up in the same era and yet he knows and told Ken that what he said was wrong...it's not a thing of age, it's a thing of respect...

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Josy

Apart from the people that hateful words and speeches were aimed at of course.

I was raised in the 60s on our street white. blacks asians all mixed ,there was never no "racial abuse" or tree hugging do gooders telling you what you could say not say