[joeysteele]

Jeremy always performs well, the difference between him and many others are, he is not worried about putting his foot in it, he says what he really believes and what he stands for.

That is always to be admired no matter who or what side of politics anyone comes from.

He cannot be caught out, no matter how hard interviewers or opponents may try to catch him out, because he knows what he is saying and believes every word he says too.
I really don't know, would he be the disaster as leader it is thought he would be, he may well succeed where others failed badly recently.
He could also have a good 2 to 3 years as leader to show his strengths,'if' he won it, with still time to change the leader when this PM goes before the 2020 election if he was doing dramatically badly as a leader.

[smudgie]

I don't share his beliefs, however I do find him the most honest of the candidates.
He discusses what he really believes in, not what he thinks labour supporters want to hear, unlike the other three.

[the truth]

some of the labour ideologies are idiotic BUT some are more sensible that at first it appears.....privatising everything from the ultilities to trains to phones to post office has been an unmitigated disaster....private is NOT always more efficient especially where theres no real competition in the market

[empire]

labour have no clue in, how too bring wealth into the country,

[the truth]

I want to hear more from corbyn to see is he has some balance

[MTVN]

Three out of four people think Labour is less electable than it was at the May general election, while a new study shows that the party cannot regain power in 2020 by focusing its appeal on left-of-centre voters.

...

The Fabians found that, of the 83 seats Labour needs to gain in England next time, only 26 would be won if everyone who voted Lib Dem or Green this year switched to Labour – requiring an unlikely collapse of both parties.

Taking account of boundary changes which will favour the Conservatives, Labour will need to gain 106 seats to secure a Commons majority of one – 83 in England, 13 in Scotland and 10 in Wales. So at least four in five of the “extra votes” Labour needs to win will be in English marginals.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-10420140.html

And that's why it would be RIP Labour under Corbyn

[Crimson Dynamo]

his brother is the weather charlatan Piers Corbyn

[arista]

Originally Posted by MTVN

And that's why it would be RIP Labour under Corbyn

No Let them Elect him
he will have half of his cabinet as women


It will be Fun

[MTVN]

Who would even want to be in his cabinet apart from Diane Abbott

Already there's at least 14 of the 35 MPs who nominated him saying that they don't want him for leader

[arista]

Liz would

[the truth]

cant say im impressed with any of them but at least with corbyn you've got a better idea of what youre getting

[arista]

Amazing Unions
no longer back Burnham.
http://news.sky.com/story/1527269/un...our-leadership

[Unison has announced it will be backing the anti-austerity candidate Jeremy Corbyn for the Labour leadership.

the trade union has tipped Yvette Cooper as its second choice.]

William Hill Betting has Corbyn as winner

[arista]

Youtube video

A Great Debate
Owen Jones Vs Owen

[Kizzy]

Owen Jones is a ledge.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Owen Jones is a ledge.

I agree
A Clever guy

[joeysteele]

Owen Jones is brilliant, I agree with all he says and again what a shocking presenter Kay Burley is.

Look, I will not be supporting Jeremy Corbyn but if he did win the leadership,then I would hope all in the Labour movement would give him the same chance to prove himself that they would have given the others.
There is time, if he was doing really badly,to change him again well before the next election, as did the Conservatives with Ian Duncan Smith.

You know what however, I am more and more coming to the view that as Leader Jeremy Corbyn may do far better than anyone imagined he ever would.
One thing he certainly is,is honest, that could in fact, just carry him a good way to electoral success.

[MTVN]

If you ask me the candidate who is most being smeared in this race is Kendall. Corbyn supporters moan about him being slandered as 'far-left' or 'unelectable' and then just lazily stereotype the others and particularly Kendall as 'Tory-lite' or, worse, 'Blairite' which is apparently the worst insult you can confer on someone these days! Actually listening to Kendall on the radio today she has quite a lot of pretty profound things to say about how to adjust to both a globalised society and also an ageing one and has so many criticisms of Tory policy and how they are going about things.

Makes no never mind to me of course, I think a Labour party led by Corbyn will be hilarious and like watching a car crash in slow motion. But really, for the sake of their party, they should go for anyone but him.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Owen Jones is brilliant, I agree with all he says and again what a shocking presenter Kay Burley is.

Look, I will not be supporting Jeremy Corbyn but if he did win the leadership,then I would hope all in the Labour movement would give him the same chance to prove himself that they would have given the others.
There is time, if he was doing really badly,to change him again well before the next election, as did the Conservatives with Ian Duncan Smith.

You know what however, I am more and more coming to the view that as Leader Jeremy Corbyn may do far better than anyone imagined he ever would.
One thing he certainly is,is honest, that could in fact, just carry him a good way to electoral success.

I agree he is the best hope for labour BUT he must be smart and not over controlled or corrupted by vested interests from the unions or the big money players. I like the fact hes an old man and isn't there to become rich

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by the truth

I agree he is the best hope for labour BUT he must be smart and not over controlled or corrupted by vested interests from the unions or the big money players. I like the fact hes an old man and isn't there to become rich

I actually do think he has more going for him than against him,I even came across some 17 year olds today,who say they like him too.

Sometimes in politics,the oddest things happen
He has already outlined a lot of what a party led by him would stand for and the policies he would want to try to secure.
Tony Benn and Michael Foot were slaughtered for advocating coming out of the EU,now that is fashionable to think that way.
So things change often surprisingly.

I doubt Jeremy Corbyn could be controlled by anyone but I actually do think he is smart,he is also persuasive, which could even bring into play some policies near unthinkable for the Labour party before but which should have been attempted to consider at least.
Such as looking at the reversal of the privatisation chaos of the gas, electricity, rail and water services.

As for those saying they would not serve in a Corbyn cabinet, given the chance probably most of them,would jump at the opportunity.

[arista]

[Kizzy]

I am all for Mr Corbyn however I'm worried that with the current social trend of those who have 2 pennies to scratch their backsides with identifying themselves as tory, even though they are the ones making some of the biggest sacrifices during the next 5yrs then the left leaning Labour leader is going to have a harder time getting through to them than Ed did.
When is it ok to say 'I told you' so btw, after another heat or eat winter?

[the truth]

pls remember WHY LABOUR LOST IN THE 1980S ....it was NOT because people liked thatcher....it was because 1) labour blew it in the late 70s with out of control unions and 2) people were stoked up by a racist right wing media to hate Kinnock and it was because he was TOO WELSH. he was portrayed as a communist welsh wind bag who'd sell us out to communists
I believe re nationalising industries is the key to corbyn beating Cameron....as long as corbyn is middle of the road and sensible on everything else including the mis management of the economy in mid 2000s. he also voted AGAINST THE ILLEGAL IRAQ WAR. this man corbyn isn't in it for the money either
forget the rabid right wing press, this could grow online from the grass roots, he doesn't have the Obama style but he strikes me as a man of principle. hes a bit anti television but maybe that's what we need a serious man who isn't a z list ham actor like blair

[empire]

corbyn is no friend of the working class, he is a marxist, and a marxist would ruin this country as pm, he called ex labour voters racist for voting ukip, he is only there too stop a ship from sinking, thats it, he is pro eu, in the 70s labour did not stab the working man in the back, but they caved in too easily, and in turn, the country was in huge decline, and a vote of no confidence, because the country was stuck in a mass of strikes, black outs, by 1979, that's the reason why thatcher got into number ten, I would not trust labour in running are economy again, after what happend last time under them,

[empire]

labour under blair, failed to get rid of the rip off youth work scheme that forced school leavers, too work for nothing, for five days a week, both the tory's and labour, betrayed the younger generation, for the last 35 years, I think its unfair too label all school leavers, lazy, when they are told that they have too work for nothing, and how can they help pay the bills at home, when I hear middle and upper class students say that the youth should work for nothing, I am thinking that these people are going too be mps, and the torys and labour are really scraping down the barrel, for the parties future,

[Kizzy]

'Jeremy Corbyn is riding high in the polls and new YouGov survey data has shown that a majority of UK adults agree with some of his key policies.

The Labour leadership candidate has pledged to renationalise the railways and energy companies.

New polling data has shown that a majority of 1,707 British adults, surveyed by YouGov between 4 and 5 August, supported this policy.'

http://i100.independent.co.uk/articl...nk--Z1rzOuZmEl