[bots]

Too funny

Youtube video

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Too funny

Youtube video

It's like he had a crystal ball

[bots]

Originally Posted by Braden

When will we find out who the new Mayor of London is?

You can follow the counting as it happens, with regular updates here:

https://www.londonelects.org.uk/im-v...016?contest=23

So far labour are well in the lead

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

The voting in Scotland is still an independence issue, with an SNP vote being seen as a pro-indy vote and a number of people, probably traditional Labour voters, shifting to Tory as a pro-Union alternative.

Sadly, it's pretty much that simple.

Indeed but a dreadful labour leader and campaign made that easy to do

[Braden]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

You can follow the counting as it happens, with regular updates here:

https://www.londonelects.org.uk/im-v...016?contest=23

So far labour are well in the lead

Thanks for that. I appreciate it

[Livia]

Labour celebrating despite their result being 6% worse than Miliband's last year.

[Firewire]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Indeed but a dreadful labour leader and campaign made that easy to do

I think Kezia is very likeable, she's just not a leader.

Ruth is great though. Not a fan of Tory policies but she's strong.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Not a bad night at all in England for Labour, they've retained a few of the southern councils they have control of and even increased their majority in some. Losses so far are nowhere near the 200 odd predicted

It isn't as bad a night for Labour at all, many were predicting losses in the hundreds, none of that has materialised.

I like how the 2 parliamentary by elections are being overlooked in the main, wherein UKIP is in 2nd place in both shoving the Conservatives down.

There is an improvement in Labour's position since last year, nowhere near enough however but on last years general election, Labour is up a few points on last year and the Conservatives are down a few.

Then from 2012, when Labour had a good lead then over the Conservatives.although on that showing Labour is down now, the Conservative vote is stuck much as it was then.
What Miliband was unable to do was carry his position in 2012 through to 2015,had he been able to,another coalition govt would be in place now, the other probable fact is, even these results in 2016 would in a general election likely wipe out easily this govts overall majority.

However as you say, not that bad a night for Labour and for those who were waiting to smugly and with glee be hoping to point out as to endless losses for Labour,they are left unable to do so.

This is not an election winning night for Labour by any means admittedly.
Although the 2 by elections,despite being in safe seats point to better success, as again in one the percentage of votes won was bigger than the general election.
In Sheffield Brightside for instance the swing was around 5.5% from Conservative to Labour.

The holding of the Southern councils too actually even surprised me and in Exeter they increased their majority on that council.

I am not too worried as to Scotland, I think and hope Labour will in time claw back there in the future but as long as the SNP keeps the Conservatives well at bay, I am happy with that.

As for any building on their success in Wales for the Conservatives where they took 2 seats from Labour then in the general election last year, well that challenge has fizzled out rather.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Firewire

I think Kezia is very likeable, she's just not a leader.

Ruth is great though. Not a fan of Tory policies but she's strong.

Ruth is a really good leader and sticks to issues,she fought an excellent campaign and just missed getting 2nd place as to overall votes as well as seats.

Kezia would make a better deputy leader for Labour in my view.

However I expected anyone,no matter who they were, would be on a losing ticket for Labour this time round in Scotland and maybe even next time round again too.
There will be no comeback for Labour as long as the SNP remains strong.
I can live with that though.

[Jack_]

John Curtice and the BBC have now used the results in 900 wards to calculate a projected national share of the vote, if this were a general election:

Lab - 31%
Con - 30%
LD - 15%
UKIP - 12%

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

It isn't as bad a night for Labour at all, many were predicting losses in the hundreds, none of that has materialised.

I like how the 2 parliamentary by elections are being overlooked in the main, wherein UKIP is in 2nd place in both shoving the Conservatives down.

There is an improvement in Labour's position since last year, nowhere near enough however but on last years general election, Labour is up a few points on last year and the Conservatives are down a few.

Then from 2012, when Labour had a good lead then over the Conservatives.although on that showing Labour is down now, the Conservative vote is stuck much as it was then.
What Miliband was unable to do was carry his position in 2012 through to 2015,had he been able to,another coalition govt would be in place now, the other probable fact is, even these results in 2016 would in a general election likely wipe out easily this govts overall majority.

However as you say, not that bad a night for Labour and for those who were waiting to smugly and with glee be hoping to point out as to endless losses for Labour,they are left unable to do so.

This is not an election winning night for Labour by any means admittedly.
Although the 2 by elections,despite being in safe seats point to better success, as again in one the percentage of votes won was bigger than the general election.
In Sheffield Brightside for instance the swing was around 5.5% from Conservative to Labour.

The holding of the Southern councils too actually even surprised me and in Exeter they increased their majority on that council.

I am not too worried as to Scotland, I think and hope Labour will in time claw back there in the future but as long as the SNP keeps the Conservatives well at bay, I am happy with that.

As for any building on their success in Wales for the Conservatives where they took 2 seats from Labour then in the general election last year, well that challenge has fizzled out rather.

I agree with everything you've said, this is obviously a disappointing night for Labour but certainly not as disastrous as many were predicting. Local elections inevitably have local factors so while the losses aren't great news, they aren't entirely unexpected. Plus crucially the share of the vote is up on last year - I think that's the main sticking point to take away from this. McDonnell was the voice of reason on the programme last night and his sense of realism is welcoming and not often found amongst politicians. It's nothing to shout about, but it's a basis upon which to build. Jeremy is 8 months into his leadership, I think it's time his critics in the parliamentary party remember the overwhelming mandate he's received (one which I think he'd probably retain were another vote conducted, might I add) and give him a proper amount of time to re-establish the party before we take very seriously the need for a new leadership. I think some people are forgetting just how catastrophic the collapse last year was.

[MTVN]

Bloody hell they've only just started counting the votes for my district council, get a move on lads

[DemolitionRed]

I've seen so many differing reports, depending on the media's bias, but from what I can tell, Labour lost one council seat, is still the majority in Wales and has the London Mayor.

[_Tom_]

Jenny Jones dropping a 'C' bomb

[Crimson Dynamo]

not looking good for London Mayor

jesus wept

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

not looking good for London Mayor

jesus wept

It's looking excellent actually, a complete rejection of what has been a disgustingly divisive campaign from Goldsmith's team. He's sold his soul to the devil and has gone from a man whom many on all sides of politics considered to be someone with principles, to the head of a campaign which has sought to smear, divide and conquer.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Jack_

It's looking excellent actually, a complete rejection of what has been a disgustingly divisive campaign from Goldsmith's team. He's sold his soul to the devil and has gone from a man whom many on all sides of politics considered to be someone with principles, to the head of a campaign which has sought to smear, divide and conquer.

If the media can call on Labour members to be suspended because of anti-Semitism remarks, then to show unbiased, they now need to be calling on Zac Goldsmith to be suspended for running an anti-Muslim campaign in London.

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Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

If the media can call on Labour members to be suspended because of anti-Semitism remarks, then to show unbiased, they now need to be calling on Zac Goldsmith to be suspended for running an anti-Muslim campaign in London.

it wasn't an anti muslim campaign, it was a why is this candidate sharing a stage with extremists. A perfectly good question. Or is it not politically correct now to ask questions of potential candidates that are going to represent us?

[arista]

http://news.sky.com/story/1691589/sa...don-mayor-race


Sadiq looks like he will win this Mayor Of London Job
it will be very hard for him to get his housing built , though


Good luck to him

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Jack_

I agree with everything you've said, this is obviously a disappointing night for Labour but certainly not as disastrous as many were predicting. Local elections inevitably have local factors so while the losses aren't great news, they aren't entirely unexpected. Plus crucially the share of the vote is up on last year - I think that's the main sticking point to take away from this. McDonnell was the voice of reason on the programme last night and his sense of realism is welcoming and not often found amongst politicians. It's nothing to shout about, but it's a basis upon which to build. Jeremy is 8 months into his leadership, I think it's time his critics in the parliamentary party remember the overwhelming mandate he's received (one which I think he'd probably retain were another vote conducted, might I add) and give him a proper amount of time to re-establish the party before we take very seriously the need for a new leadership. I think some people are forgetting just how catastrophic the collapse last year was.

Oh he would indeed Jack_ you are spot on.

As it happens the Conservatives are almost losing it seems in the end, a few more councillors than Labour too.

I would have liked to see more progress but this is far from being the results I was expecting and dreading.
I and others in the Party were last night expecting 150 to 200 losses and up to 100 gains to the Conservatives.

Overall, an as you were of Councils across the whole of England,the London Mayor expected result,the Wales results and also the extremely comfortable 2 by-election wins.
This turned out to be a fairly promising result in the end.

Obviously Scotland is an entirely different situation for some time to come I fear.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Jack_

It's looking excellent actually, a complete rejection of what has been a disgustingly divisive campaign from Goldsmith's team. He's sold his soul to the devil and has gone from a man whom many on all sides of politics considered to be someone with principles, to the head of a campaign which has sought to smear, divide and conquer.

True again and from what I hear from friends in London, many Conservatives are angry at the racist and dubious tones of Zac Goldsmith's campaign.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

it wasn't an anti muslim campaign, it was a why is this candidate sharing a stage with extremists. A perfectly good question. Or is it not politically correct now to ask questions of potential candidates that are going to represent us?

Except this particular 'extremist' is someone whom Khan represented as a defence lawyer because that was his job and is also one that has shared a stage with several Tories and is, oh...what's that? A supporter of the Conservative party, including Zac Goldsmith...whom he's been photographed with! Now doesn't that paint an interesting picture

Add to that the racial profiling their campaign conducted in targeting leaflets to certain Hindu/Sikh and other minority communities saying that Sadiq would be taxing their jewellery, and I think you've most definitely found yourself a pretty disgusting Islamaphobic and racist campaign!

[arista]

Confirmed Sadiq has has was Won the Mayor Job

Good Luck to him


Ref: SkyNewsHD

[Ross.]

Originally Posted by _Tom_

Jenny Jones dropping a 'C' bomb

even bigger mess at Kay Burley's reaction

[arista]

Labour's Khan Wins London Mayoral Election

[Labour's Sadiq Khan has broken
the Conservatives' eight-year hold
on the London mayoralty by
defeating Tory rival Zac Goldsmith.
The Tooting MP will become the first
Muslim mayor of London after he
emerged as the victor over
Mr Goldsmith and 11 other contenders.]

http://news.sky.com/story/1691744/la...yoral-election