[Livia]

Read the thread, Kizzy. Niamh replied in much the same vein as my own post, so I know I'm not seeing things.

[joeysteele]

I would say the bulk of all on this thread are against the content of the video and I found it offensive because of my intense dislike, using the word dislike rather than another, of Hitler,the nazis and all they stood for and did too.

I actually myself also have Jewish friends,good friends too, who I would look out for and defend when needed,I know they would be offended at that video.

No one needs to be only Jewish to be offended at that video at all, that is a ridiculous thing to say too.
The nazis were cruel to homosexuals and even gypsies almost as bad as they were to the Jewish people.
Their list of so called likely undesirables was probably endless.

Which is why those who at any time seemingly either praise or belittle what the Nazis did and stood for,or those who even set about calling other people nazis, should be treated with the same contempt in my view.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I would say the bulk of all on this thread are against the content of the video and I found it offensive because of my intense dislike, using the word dislike rather than another, of Hitler,the nazis and all they stood for and did too.

I actually myself also have Jewish friends,good friends too, who I would look out for and defend when needed,I know they would be offended at that video.

No one needs to be only Jewish to be offended at that video at all, that is a ridiculous thing to say too.
The nazis were cruel to homosexuals and even gypsies almost as bad as they were to the Jewish people.
Their list of so called likely undesirables was probably endless.

Which is why those who at any time seemingly either praise or belittle what the Nazis did and stood for,or those who even set about calling other people nazis, should be treated with the same contempt in my view.

In regards to my comments on it, I was just talking personally, I'm not Jewish and am not personally offended by it but can absolutely see how it could be personally offensive to, in particular Jewish people

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

In regards to my comments on it, I was just talking personally, I'm not Jewish and am not personally offended by it but can absolutely see how it could be personally offensive to, in particular Jewish people

I should have clarified I was not talking about anyone on here, very sadly for me, a good number and even more sadly some of my friends even off here, hold the view that only Jewish communities can and should be the only ones offended by nazi terminology or those making sick humour out of Hitler or the Nazis.
They even brand out the term nazi to some others like confetti calling it humour.

That annoys me as all I have heard and read of Hitler and the Nazis leaves me with possibly,(until IS came into being), the only thing and person I would say I really hated personally.
Namely Hitler and the Nazis.

Personally for me, just my view, I cannot see how anyone cannot be affected by all Hitler and the Nazis stood for and did.
My Grandfather who fought in the 2nd world war,was heavily affected by the sight and horrors he came across in the German camps once the Allies got to them.
He described really brave and strong Soldiers with him being physically sick and affected by, and haunted by, for the rest of their lives,the unfolding endless horrors they saw for the rest of their lives at what they came across as to Nazi crimes and atrocities.

[Alf]

He has been convicted, will be sentenced in April.

Where will it end? are stand-up comedians next? or are you next?


https://uk.news.yahoo.com/youtube-co...145920581.html

[Rob!]

This does sound like Scott.

[Parmy]

The view count got the feckless idiot charged..

Silly sod was only trying to annoy his gf, and not an entire religion/race.

[Withano]

Of course Tommy Robinson went to his trial

[TomC]

i think imprisonment is ridiculous

[Alf]

Originally Posted by TomC

i think imprisonment is ridiculous

Might not be prison. Could be a fine or community service. The sentence is next month.

But the point is, he's been found guilty of a hate crime for a joke.

A dark day for freedom of speech in Britain.

[Parmy]

When I was a lad it was illegal to put your willy up men's bottoms but you could say anything you liked. Now it's the other way round.



Had to laugh at one comment on it.

[Oliver_W]

It's a bit pathetic how teaching a dog to raise a paw can be life ruining, let along arrestable.

[Marsh.]

My cat does the Macarena.

[DemolitionRed]

When I first saw this video I found it very offensive. I'm glad he's been caught and prosecuted for this as I do see it as a hate crime. Not sure if he deserves prison but perhaps this is a warning to all those Nazi supporters out there.

[Parmy]

A nazi supporter with all those tattoos in the video, and not one(that i know off) has racial or nazi connectations.

[Tom4784]

It's completely ridiculous that he was found guilty of this, the case should have been thrown out tbh because it's a poor joke in bad taste but to say this is a hate crime is ****ing ridiculous and quite frankly worrying when it comes to the state of our right to freedom of speech.

'Hate Speech' should cover people who incite violence against demographics, not people who, within the context of the joke, are parodying anti-semitism, not endorsing it. For all the talk of 'PC GONE MAD?!' this is an actual example of it. Beyond ridiculous, this judgement needs to be condemned for it's a judgement against freedom of speech.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

It's completely ridiculous that he was found guilty of this, the case should have been thrown out tbh because it's a poor joke in bad taste but to say this is a hate crime is ****ing ridiculous and quite frankly worrying when it comes to the state of our right to freedom of speech.

'Hate Speech' should cover people who incite violence against demographics, not people who, within the context of the joke, are parodying anti-semitism, not endorsing it. For all the talk of 'PC GONE MAD?!' this is an actual example of it. Beyond ridiculous, this judgement needs to be condemned for it's a judgement against freedom of speech.

But it was animal cruelty Dezzy.










Being serious though I do agree with you, Prison space shouldn't be wasted on people that have a really strange sense of humour, but instead for people that actually go violent on people for the colour of their skin out of the racial offenses, but bizarrely I've heard that those types of people can get off more lightly because they was "drunk" at the time.

[Northern Monkey]

Youtube video

[kirklancaster]

Meechan is nothing more than a racist, anti-Semitic, Nazi-Obsessed cretin who under the guise of 'comedy purposes' has posted deeply offensive, hurtful, and totally unnecessary bile to a potential audience of millions - including children.

His disclaimer that he is not 'racist' or 'antiSemitic' is pure B.S. as is his excuse that:

“My girlfriend is always ranting and raving about how cute and adorable her wee dog is, and so I thought I would turn him into the least cute thing that I could think of, which is a Nazi.”

John Cleese creating a 'Hitler' moustache with his fingers whilst exaggerating a 'Goosestep' ridicules the monster that was Hitler and the Nazis and IS funny.

Charlie Chaplin's 'The Great Dictator' masterfully ridicules Hitler and the Nazis and IS funny.

Ditto, Mel Brookes in his most brilliant film 'The Producers'.

In ALL examples of TRUE comedy which has Hitler/The Nazis as its theme- from 'Satirical' through 'Mordant' to 'Parodic' and 'Stand-Up'-, THEY are the subject of the 'joke', THEY are what is being 'Ridiculed'.

Yet, in Meechan's offensive short clip (which in my opinion, is not even humorous) the cruel 'Butt' of the joke (for want of a better word) is not Hitler/The Nazis - whom he actually PROMOTES - but instead is the 6 million innocent Jewish people, MEN WOMEN AND CHILDREN, who Hitler/The Nazis so incredibly subjected to the most inhumane horrors of the 'Death Camps' before being murdered in the Gas Chambers.

Other victims include their millions of forever-shattered, still grieving relatives and families and those few who somehow survived the - STILL difficult to comprehend - so-called 'Final Solution'.

To these people, Jewish people everywhere, and ALL but the most 'dim-witted' of anti-Semitic people anywhere, there SURELY cannot be a more PAINFULLY OFFENSIVE phrase than; "Gas The Jews".

Meechan disclaimer and apologies ring hollow when one considers that SINCE the one under discussion, he has posted another painfully UNFUNNY video clip online - 'Ten Little Woofs - which DEFIANTLY ends in a clip of a Nazi rally and Nazi soldiers in action.

Training that poor dog must have taken months - a testament to the meticulous planning Meechan invested in this transparently 'cloaked' anti-Semitic toxic drivel - and his cynical use of the dog as a ploy is very sinister: 'Gas The Jews', 'Gas The Jews' repeated over and over like some Mantra to a cute little dog, is sanitizing and denigrating the true horrors of the 'Final Solution to the innocent and impressionable minds of any CHILDREN who may be viewing.

The authorities had this RIGHT.

Meechan fully DESERVES his arrest and conviction - in my opinion.


[YThttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Qa5iNloHwA&feature=youtu.be][/YT]

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Meechan is nothing more than a racist, anti-Semitic, Nazi-Obsessed cretin who under the guise of 'comedy purposes' has posted deeply offensive, hurtful, and totally unnecessary bile to a potential audience of millions - including children.

His disclaimer that he is not 'racist' or 'antiSemitic' is pure B.S. as is his excuse that:

“My girlfriend is always ranting and raving about how cute and adorable her wee dog is, and so I thought I would turn him into the least cute thing that I could think of, which is a Nazi.”

John Cleese creating a 'Hitler' moustache with his fingers whilst exaggerating a 'Goosestep' ridicules the monster that was Hitler and the Nazis and IS funny.

Charlie Chaplin's 'The Great Dictator' masterfully ridicules Hitler and the Nazis and IS funny.

Ditto, Mel Brookes in his most brilliant film 'The Producers'.

In ALL examples of TRUE comedy which has Hitler/The Nazis as its theme- from 'Satirical' through 'Mordant' to 'Parodic' and 'Stand-Up'-, THEY are the subject of the 'joke', THEY are what is being 'Ridiculed'.

Yet, in Meechan's offensive short clip (which in my opinion, is not even humorous) the cruel 'Butt' of the joke (for want of a better word) is not Hitler/The Nazis - whom he actually PROMOTES - but instead is the 6 million innocent Jewish people, MEN WOMEN AND CHILDREN, who Hitler/The Nazis so incredibly subjected to the most inhumane horrors of the 'Death Camps' before being murdered in the Gas Chambers.

Other victims include their millions of forever-shattered, still grieving relatives and families and those few who somehow survived the - STILL difficult to comprehend - so-called 'Final Solution'.

To these people, Jewish people everywhere, and ALL but the most 'dim-witted' of anti-Semitic people anywhere, there SURELY cannot be a more PAINFULLY OFFENSIVE phrase than; "Gas The Jews".

Meechan disclaimer and apologies ring hollow when one considers that SINCE the one under discussion, he has posted another painfully UNFUNNY video clip online - 'Ten Little Woofs - which DEFIANTLY ends in a clip of a Nazi rally and Nazi soldiers in action.

Training that poor dog must have taken months - a testament to the meticulous planning Meechan invested in this transparently 'cloaked' anti-Semitic toxic drivel - and his cynical use of the dog as a ploy is very sinister: 'Gas The Jews', 'Gas The Jews' repeated over and over like some Mantra to a cute little dog, is sanitizing and denigrating the true horrors of the 'Final Solution to the innocent and impressionable minds of any CHILDREN who may be viewing.

The authorities had this RIGHT.

Meechan fully DESERVES his arrest and conviction - in my opinion.


[YThttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Qa5iNloHwA&feature=youtu.be][/YT]

Wasnt faulty towers all about laughing at basil and his misfortunes? Not basil being hitler!

In the vid the fella plays a german soldier and the dog plays hitler. Or vice versa. Imo both are parodies o

So why is it that black comedians can take the piss out if white folk? Yet the other way around you start bordering on racism

Why do women comedians now lay into men? But men cant mention the mother in law.

White men have persecutef for years its there turn now...well bollocks to that..jews have persecuted for years, muslims for years..black men mutilate teenage vaginas.

But oh no, you cant make fun if them.

Take the genital mutilation...no one dares....but john bobbit gets his cock cut off and its hohoho...

Comedy is comedy, you laugh or you dont..

[Kizzy]

Why are people going to fancy dress parties as the SS and and such funny and this isn't? Personally I don't think either are at all but I'd like to see some consistency in the response.

[Alf]

He got a fine, which is still wrong but at least it wasn't prison.

At last this nonsense is finally over for this guy.

The only people who should be offended by mocking Nazis, is Nazis themselves.

[arista]

Yes £800 fine

https://news.sky.com/story/youtube-u...lutes-11343699

[Oliver_W]

It's all a bit pathetic really, all this because he taught a dog to raise a paw in the air?

The absolutely worst thing that should have happened to him should be having to take the video down.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

It's all a bit pathetic really, all this because he taught a dog to raise a paw in the air?

The absolutely worst thing that should have happened to him should be having to take the video down.

Yes
its comedy in bad taste