[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

My sister said the flood on voting day is God saying ''REMAIN'' [indoors]

[AProducer'sWetDream]

Originally Posted by Riley95

I voted out, by postal weeks ago... But it is the old people I feel sorry for. The Remain camp (especially David Shameron) have constantly put old people down, treated them like 2nd class citizens, like they don't matter, like they're about to pop their clogs any minute so who the ***** cares just let your 8 year old grand daughter make the decision for you. Surely they have a lot of experience to know what decision is right for them, and have lived long enough to know if they want to leave or remain? LEAVE OAP's ALONE!

The problem is that many older people have pensions or are already secure in their jobs. Negative impacts of a leave vote will be felt the most by younger people- those looking for jobs for the first time- if less jobs are created. Older people may therefore be more willing to take a risk in this referendum because they arent as likely to lose out if the economy is damaged, whereas many young people (including myself) are very worried about the risks of leaving to jobs, wages, opportunities etc.

[_Tom_]

Originally Posted by Riley95

I voted out, by postal weeks ago... But it is the old people I feel sorry for. The Remain camp (especially David Shameron) have constantly put old people down, treated them like 2nd class citizens, like they don't matter, like they're about to pop their clogs any minute so who the ***** cares just let your 8 year old grand daughter make the decision for you. Surely they have a lot of experience to know what decision is right for them, and have lived long enough to know if they want to leave or remain? LEAVE OAP's ALONE!

I've seen too many disgusting comments on social from Remain supporters towards the older voters.

[Wizard.]

Originally Posted by AProducer'sWetDream

The problem is that many older people have pensions or are already secure in their jobs. Negative impacts of a leave vote will be felt the most by younger people- those looking for jobs for the first time- if less jobs are created. Older people may therefore be more willing to take a risk in this referendum because they arent as likely to lose out if the economy is damaged, whereas many young people (including myself) are very worried about the risks of leaving to jobs, wages, opportunities etc.

They know about risks more than we do and obviously realise that this is a risk worth taking! Bye EU Bye Germany we don't work for you.

[MB.]

Thought it might be worth my two pence that my grandparents are both well into their 80s, have been divorced for 40 years and live on opposite sides of the country, and both voted Remain

[Braden]

Finally got round to voting after today's drama

I presume the voting will be broken down into constituencies?

[Scarlett.]

Originally Posted by Riley95

I voted out, by postal weeks ago... But it is the old people I feel sorry for. The Remain camp (especially David Shameron) have constantly put old people down, treated them like 2nd class citizens, like they don't matter, like they're about to pop their clogs any minute so who the ***** cares just let your 8 year old grand daughter make the decision for you. Surely they have a lot of experience to know what decision is right for them, and have lived long enough to know if they want to leave or remain? LEAVE OAP's ALONE!

and I'm tired of the older generations telling me I don't know better. Sorry I don't belive a word The Sun, Daily Mail and Sky News say, and instead believe research, actual experts and buisness leaders. The younger generation is the one who have to live with this vote.

[_Tom_]

Originally Posted by Braden

Finally got round to voting after today's drama

I presume the voting will be broken down into constituencies?

Yep - each constituency will reveal their vote counts throughout the night - but it will be the total number of votes cast in the UK that will win it for Leave or Remain. Even 1 vote could clinch a win for either side!

[Braden]

Originally Posted by _Tom_

Yep - each constituency will reveal their vote counts throughout the night - but it will be the total number of votes cast in the UK that will win it for Leave or Remain. Even 1 vote could clinch a win for either side!

Thank you!

God, imagine if that ever were the case. It's almost impossible but it would be so exciting to watch.

[MB.]

Even worse, it could be Keith's blind 93 year old mum who casts the deciding vote

[Cherie]

Wouldn't one vote between the two sides spark a recount?

[bots]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Wouldn't one vote between the two sides spark a recount?

nope. The referendum is not a legally binding vote. It is a canvas of opinion. There can be recounts at a local level, but not after they have become part of the main figure. So if it was a draw, that would be the result. It would mean we were unable to make a decision and therefore should remain in the EU

[Wizard.]

So the number one trending hashtag in the UK is #IVotedLeave whereas beneath it is a sponsored paid for topical #LabourINforbritain telling people to go vote remain TOMORROW

[_Tom_]

Originally Posted by Riley95

So the number one trending hashtag in the UK is #IVotedLeave whereas beneath it is a sponsored paid for topical #LabourINforbritain telling people to go vote remain TOMORROW

No Remain hashtag to be seen - except for that promoted one Labour bought which gives the wrong information

[Wizard.]

Originally Posted by _Tom_

No Remain hashtag to be seen - except for that promoted one Labour bought which gives the wrong information

Messy hehe

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Braden

Finally got round to voting after today's drama

I presume the voting will be broken down into constituencies?

No, it's broken down into council areas, except in Northern Ireland where it's done by constituency.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

nope. The referendum is not a legally binding vote. It is a canvas of opinion. There can be recounts at a local level, but not after they have become part of the main figure. So if it was a draw, that would be the result. It would mean we were unable to make a decision and therefore should remain in the EU

Oh thanks didn't know that!

[kirklancaster]

I am an 'Oldie', and I have been keenly interested in politics since I was a pre-teen, am not tied to any political party, have lived through Heath's self confessed treachery in conning us into the 'Common Market', through Thatcher's later confession that she had been 'duped' over the EU, through John Major's treasonous skullduggery in signing the Maastricht Treaty, through Blair and Brown's self-serving endorsement of an EU which they KNEW was highly damaging to this country, and now I have seen David Cameron join that list of treasonous British leaders in LYING to this country and duping it by scaremongering into voting 'Remain'.

Incidentally, I am not so vehemently against the EU through any personal reason - I have had my own businesses and Limited Companies since my mid twenties and own a multi million pound portfolio of properties including one in Torrevieja, Spain, and though not 'Cash Rich', I am not starved of cash.

I CARE for the same reason that the much maligned Nigel Farage cares - the MOST honest politician in the UK - For the sake of the UK and the young and the generations STILL TO COME.

Farage puts country above himself so much, that he wants to vote himself out of a £182,826 income as an MEP on the EU 'Gravy Train' - weigh that against the lying politicians with vested interests in perpetuating the corrupt EU.

I have decades of PERSONAL Experience as a businessman and landlord who has both employed and let properties to hundreds of immigrants over the years, so I have also decades of experience of immigrants and the ADVERSE effects of open door Immigration on communities throughout the North of England, through moving in immigrant circles.

I have read hundreds of articles about the EU - both pro and anti, and watched dozens of documentaries on that subject and closely related matters, including;

UK Border Force, Panorama, 24 Hours In Police Custody, Question Time, Council House Crackdown, Crimewatch, Daily Politics etc etc, in addition to EVERY single purpose made program on the EU and EU Referendum.

I learnt a long, long time ago, that Information is Power and Knowledge is Power, and I am not this passionate against my country's insane continued membership of that failed and corrupt, corporation serving, Federalist shambles, through being Xenophobic, Racist, A 'Little Englander', or through being a dithering idiot who has no knowledge of what I am being asked to vote on.

All the bleating about the UK not being capable of going it alone without the EU, is idiotic and belittles the skills, courage, determination and spirit of the British people - domiciled immigrant British included - and is utterly wrong.

It is this 'Britishness' - which some on here may decry and denigrate - which has seen this country still REMAIN a world power long after it's days of 'Empire' are gone.

Name me one other former EMPIRE which can boast of the same;

The Greeks? The Italians (Romans)? The Ottoman (Turkish)? The Persian (Iran)?

No, throughout history - and given the inevitable cyclic 'peaking and troughing' in our fortunes - GREAT BRITAIN remains just that; GREAT, and it is the calibre of the PEOPLE of a country which ultimately decides whether a country is 'Great' or not.

What is more - and unlike most of the other former 'Empires' - Britain did not turn its back on the countries we once plundered or treat badly during the days of Empire, we GAVE BACK, and have NEVER stopped giving back -- though nothing can ever eradicate the shameful parts of our long history, we ARE trying and have always tried, to make amends.

I have posted comprehensive FACT and STATISTIC based posts on here detailing just WHY this country cannot afford to remain in the UK, including:

1 42 years of negative balance of trade deficits (currently worsened to over £42 billion up to March of this year).

2. The £259 Billion 'Black Hole' in the EU's finances due to FRAUD; a 'Black Hole' which the arrogant bastards in Brussels demanded £34 Billion from the UK to help refill, to which Cameron said "Over my dead body" only to deceitfully secretly PAY it.

3. The total deceit of the UK Government over the REAL IMMIGRATION FIGURES. While the headlines screamed; 'Net Migration Rises To 330,00 The Second Highest On Record' - the National Insurance Numbers handed out to immigrant applicants for the same period was 630,000.

The subsequent frantic scramble by the Government to try to explain away this discrepancy is so convoluted and complicated and NONSENSICAL that it beggars belief. What the Government finally did admit is that 'It HAS NO WAY OF KNOWING HOW MANY IMMIGRANTS ARE ENTERIN G THE UK'

4. The B.S. claim that 44% of our exports are to the EU. I explained about 'The Rotterdam Effect' - how ALL cargo ships from the UK which temporarily docked at Rotterdam or Antwerp had their cargoe's ASCRIBED AS GOING TO THE EU EVEN IF THEY WERE NOT!

As in the NINO discrepancy above, the British Government tried to downplay this unscrupulous practice with the most convoluted, complex cover-up possible, and ended up - once again - admitting that 'There were no figures available for actual exports to the EU'.

I could go on and on but it will make no difference.

The HMS GREAT BRITAIN is a 19th century wooden ship far out at sea, and successive British Governments have been steering her towards the rocks whilst selling of the bitumen caulk which keeps her planked hull watertight, but that does not worry them, because THEY own the LIFEBOATS and ALL THE NEAREST ISLANDS.

It is the 'Common Working Classes' who are 'below decks' who will drown, but when that day comes and this country is a bankrupt disaster zone - if the referendum result is 'Remain' - as I suspect - then at least I can hold my head up and know that I tried.

How ironic that would be should that be whilst I am in my little villa in Los Balcones, Spain.

[Braden]

Originally Posted by Livia

No, it's broken down into council areas, except in Northern Ireland where it's done by constituency.

Oh okay, thanks!

[bots]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Oh thanks didn't know that!

its an interesting one. If the people voted out in the referendum, parliament could still decide to ignore the vote and stay in and with all the major parties supporting remain, the potential is there. Although, i dont think any mp voting against what the people had decided would last long

[reece(:]

Originally Posted by Riley95

I voted out, by postal weeks ago... But it is the old people I feel sorry for. The Remain camp (especially David Shameron) have constantly put old people down, treated them like 2nd class citizens, like they don't matter, like they're about to pop their clogs any minute so who the ***** cares just let your 8 year old grand daughter make the decision for you. Surely they have a lot of experience to know what decision is right for them, and have lived long enough to know if they want to leave or remain? LEAVE OAP's ALONE!

Tbf they are a tad irrelevant to this vote, the outcome will impact us young adults more than anyone else

[Wizard.]

Originally Posted by reece(:

Tbf they are a tad irrelevant to this vote, the outcome will impact us young adults more than anyone else

#IVotedLeave now trending worldwide! Thought old people were inept on social media

[MB.]

Not sure when any of us brought that up but okay

[Johnnyuk123]

Originally Posted by Riley95

#IVotedLeave now trending worldwide! Thought old people were inept on social media

It's No1 on twitter! I just posted on it.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

nope. The referendum is not a legally binding vote. It is a canvas of opinion. There can be recounts at a local level, but not after they have become part of the main figure. So if it was a draw, that would be the result. It would mean we were unable to make a decision and therefore should remain in the EU

Yep, if it was 51-52% "exit" I doubt they would even consider actually leaving the EU, it's too drastic a decision to make based on a margin that low. Anything above 55% exit though, and I think it would have major implications for democracy if they didn't see it through.