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MrWong · 14-06-2017, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy

She was passive aggressive. Who can forget her getting Darren to change his nomination with her tears after she overheard the nomination in the diary room.

Still limping on with that lame argument even though multiple non aggressive black girls were just named?

Such an obvious troll.

ThriceShy · 14-06-2017, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by MrWong

Still limping on with that lame argument even though multiple non aggressive black girls were just named?

Such an obvious troll.

Makosi and adele were named. Two of the most aggressive housemates ever.

It is all rather subjective.

But you have to ask yourself. Why such a stereotype exists? Was it just made up? Hannah seems well aware of it as she is the one that brought up race.

Jason. · 14-06-2017, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy

Makosi and adele were named. Two of the most aggressive housemates ever.

Lmao when was Makosi ever aggressive?

Greg! · 14-06-2017, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy

Makosi and adele were named. Two of the most aggressive housemates ever.

It is all rather subjective.

But you have to ask yourself. Why such a stereotype exists? Was it just made up? Hannah seems well aware of it as she is the one that brought up race.

How is Makosi aggressive sis?

HBIC · 14-06-2017, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy

Makosi and adele were named. Two of the most aggressive housemates ever.

It is all rather subjective.

But you have to ask yourself. Why such a stereotype exists? Was it just made up? Hannah seems well aware of it as she is the one that brought up race.

In what world was Makosi ever aggressive? She even stayed calm when Saskia said "people like you always have a chip on their shoulder" to HER FACE.

armand.kay · 14-06-2017, 10:06 PM

All she did was mention her experience as a black woman to explain why things like that upset her so much.

Lstan · 14-06-2017, 10:11 PM

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All she did was mention her experience as a black woman to explain why things like that upset her so much.

Indeed I dont see what all the fuss is about.

Daniel-X · 14-06-2017, 10:10 PM

This is gonna have like twelve pages before it's closed isn't it

Headie · 14-06-2017, 10:10 PM

I don't get why race is such a touchy subject, black people are more than happy to talk about it but white people get really defensive over it, shouldn't it be the other way round?

armand.kay · 14-06-2017, 10:12 PM

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I don't get why race is such a touchy subject, black people are more than happy to talk about it but white people get really defensive over it, shouldn't it be the other way round?

Like how are we meant to get anywhere if every time a black person wants to talk about their experience they reaction they get is "STOP PLAYING THE RACE CARD YOU'RE WRONG RACISM DOESN'T EXIST"

Daniel-X · 14-06-2017, 10:11 PM

But yes Hannah was aggressive as was Deborah, but it's interesting as pointed out that Sukh/Kayleigh/Kieran etc who have all acted aggressive too (AND Lotan did during that argument) didn't get called aggressive.

So yes Hannah was aggressive but idk I can see where she's coming from at the same time.

Mystic Mock · 14-06-2017, 10:12 PM

People might not like hearing it but Hannah and Deborah were being called aggressive because they're black.

Was they being argumentative? Yes, but was they being aggressive? For me no, I saw more aggression from Chanelle and Kieran the night before but conveniently Lotan and Rebecca never commented on that from what we've seen.

armand.kay · 14-06-2017, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

People might not like hearing it but Hannah and Deborah were being called aggressive because they're black.

Was they being argumentative? Yes, but was they being aggressive? For me no, I saw more aggression from Chanelle and Kieran the night before but conveniently Lotan and Rebecca never commented on that from what we've seen.

I agree. No one is saying that the housemates are racist but are we really going ignore the fact that racial stereotypes sometimes effect how we perceive people.

Mystic Mock · 14-06-2017, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by armand.kay

I agree. No one is saying that the housemates are racist but are we really going ignore the fact that racial stereotypes sometimes effect how we perceive people.

Stereotypes exist, and for people to deny that Hannah has been stereotyped is wrong imo.

rusticgal · 14-06-2017, 10:45 PM

[QUOTE=Mystic Mock;9361252]People might not like hearing it but Hannah and Deborah were being called aggressive because they're black.
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She was not being called aggressive BECAUSE she is black...she was being called it because she WAS being aggressive. Why did she have to bring her skin colour into it?

Mystic Mock · 14-06-2017, 10:49 PM

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People might not like hearing it but Hannah and Deborah were being called aggressive because they're black.
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She was not being called aggressive BECAUSE she is black...she was being called it because she WAS being aggressive. Why did she have to bring her skin colour into it?

Aggressive imo is getting up in someone's face like Darnell did to Rachel Rice in BB9 during the time when the house was split in half, and Dale had to come to her defense of all people because Darnell was squaring upto her.

Then we have what happened when Chanelle did knock Kieran's hat off his head, and spitting at him, that's aggressive. Kieran also saying that he'd knock her out if she was a guy is also aggressive.

Deborah and Hannah raising their voices when being provoked is not aggressive imo, otherwise 99.99% of the planet are aggressive if that's the case.

Hannah in particular doesn't come off as aggressive to me, she's awkward in general, but not aggressive and I don't even like Hannah very much, but that is a harsh claim.

rusticgal · 14-06-2017, 11:11 PM

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Aggressive imo is getting up in someone's face like Darnell did to Rachel Rice in BB9 during the time when the house was split in half, and Dale had to come to her defense of all people because Darnell was squaring upto her.

Then we have what happened when Chanelle did knock Kieran's hat off his head, and spitting at him, that's aggressive. Kieran also saying that he'd knock her out if she was a guy is also aggressive.

Deborah and Hannah raising their voices when being provoked is not aggressive imo, otherwise 99.99% of the planet are aggressive if that's the case.

Hannah in particular doesn't come off as aggressive to me, she's awkward in general, but not aggressive and I don't even like Hannah very much, but that is a harsh claim.

To me there is verbal aggression and physical aggression. Anyone who shouts in anyone's face is aggressive...regardless of who started it...if you respond that way it's still aggressive.All of them bar Charlotte Raph and Ellie have shown aggression verbally.
Physical aggression has been shown by Tom and in a lesser form by Chanelle. Chanelle...slipper...bag...hat was more in jest than deliberate aggressive behaviour. Even her spitting (however vile) was a dribble not an aggressive spit in the face scenario.

Mystic Mock · 14-06-2017, 11:21 PM

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To me there is verbal aggression and physical aggression. Anyone who shouts in anyone's face is aggressive...regardless of who started it...if you respond that way it's still aggressive.All of them bar Charlotte Raph and Ellie have shown aggression verbally.
Physical aggression has been shown by Tom and in a lesser form by Chanelle. Chanelle...slipper...bag...hat was more in jest than deliberate aggressive behaviour. Even her spitting (however vile) was a dribble not an aggressive spit in the face scenario.

But that's all speculation on that front, at it's basic core they're more aggressive moments from Chanelle than what Hannah did I think.

Daniel-X · 14-06-2017, 10:13 PM

Don't think she was playing 'the race card' as such either, just observed something and jumped to conclusions but I don't think she was vying for sympathy and calling the others racist.

Lstan · 14-06-2017, 10:16 PM

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Don't think she was playing 'the race card' as such either, just observed something and jumped to conclusions but I don't think she was vying for sympathy and calling the others racist.

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